Intuitive = Intuitive?

[Da Blob]

Some forum members spend time in the Gameroom. Out of sheer boredom i started to play some the Solitaire games about a month ago (?). Anyway I'm down 9%, from a standard of a random 50/50 win/lose. It seems as though if I actually have intuition it is operating in a counter-intuitive manner (?)

As it is, I am still listed as one of the two "Luckiest players" who have spent much time in the Solo games. Brett is listed as the luckiest at a mere 4% above random. The average should be closer to 50/50 if it were a truly random event.... And if Intuition is a real phenomena the average should be above random and not below.
(See Gameroom > stats)

That seems to mean that If we are Intuitive, Then we discount our own intuition for some reason.

Is this the case? If so, How? and Why?

 

[Ermine]

I think you're talking about 2 different kinds of intuition here. It seems that humans are intuitive by nature, but in different ways. For example, S types are more intuitive when it comes to their environment, Ns are intuitive with ideas, Fs are intuitive with emotions, etc.

But Solitaire has never been an intuitive game for me.

 

[Max]

I've never played Solitaire. But, I think your talking about probability. How can one use intuition for random selection? Random is random. You can't expect random to come out as 50/50. It's like flipping a coin. You think it's going to come out to heads 50% and tails 50%? Maybe you use your intuition and come out on top. Getting 75% of sides right. That's more on luck. Another guy could intuitively say the wrong side. One guy is above 50% and the other below. Seems similar to your situation. I suppose what I'm saying is that you can't use intuition with randomness.

 

[Da Blob]

Yes, I do believe you are correct. The word, intuitive, is used to describe quite a range of mental activities.

Yet recently on another thread (Units of Thought?) a comment was made in a link (by C J Lofting) that all thought was Intuitive in that it was focused on the future. We do not think about things that are (we use mere perception for that), we think about things as they 'might' be. We think about possibilities and probabilities.

 

[Max]

With intuition one doesn't think about probabilities. Such as what card might come next. The chances it might come next. We must think about such things. What your intuition gives you is a hunch. A total lack of rational thinking. You don't want that for card games.

 

[Da Blob]

I do not accept that all intuition is necessarily "irrational". The reason for this is that there are two types of memory, Recall and Recognition. I can not help but see most recognition memories falling into the category of "intuitions".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recognition_memory

EDIT: Has any ever tested Ns for relative Recall versus Recognition memory ability?

 

[fullerene]

The average should be closer to 50/50 if it were a truly random event....

er... false. Random events can have various probabilities attached to different outcomes, hence things like probability distributions