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INTPs raised in troubled neighborhoods.

Synthetix

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Are there any other INTPs or even NTs who may have grown up in an area that was falling behind in education, infrastructure, wealth and general tranquility? Come to think of it, I've never made a friend from the neighborhoods I grew up in who shared my interest in intellectual pursuits. Most of my NT friends grew up in more affluent communities. The former acquaintances I had met from my old communities were all sensors, I overheard conversations while walking to and from my place and had some interactions with several people. I couldn't start talking about dark matter, human origins, alternative energy, abiogenesis and other geek topics. My intellect had to be put to other use while conversing with them. Now, that's not to say I haven't met NTs who grew up in similar scenarios, yet I haven't met one from all the years growing up in my old neighborhoods that I could remember bearing appreciation for science, philosophy and logic on the magnitude that most NTs I know would display. Is this due to crumbling education in the public schools in these areas?
 

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Sure I did, but the thing is that I moved around loads as a kid. So I've been both poor and relatively wealthy throughout the years. Good schools, bad schools. Poverty, relative wealth. Alpha-male, bullied, class-clown, geek, rebel, gangster and pretentious douche. I've done it all.

It's more complex than how good the school is. Sure, the school is important, but so is the support you get from home and how your social life is going. Ambitions, stimulants. As far as I know, I always had some big pursuit. A bad school could lower my grades, but never my intellectual progression.
 

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Reno, Nevada, born and raised.
Yes, I did. Moreso the bad part of town. Lived/live in a trailer park in a predominantly Hispanic community. There are a few gangs, and have been quite a few shootings. A few of which were just down the street. A few months ago an old friend of mine was shot and killed on his doorstep, with his family just inside.

The schools I went to were in no good shape. Throughout elementary I went to a title I school, until fifth grade where I moved to a new school (not neighborhood) that was really nice and well kept. Sixth grade I attended middle school in the same area, until half way through the year, until I moved back to my old elementary (K-6th). Due to the school I was zoned to go to for 7th and 8th grade being really bad, I did an online charter school for those years. Freshman year I went to a real high school, which is still not very good and has the reputation of being called "Thug High". Just finishing up my Junior year there now, and honestly I am not impressed with the education I've had. It's mostly been the same stuff for the whole 12 years.
As for friends that share similar intellectual pursuits and interests, I've met one. My INTJ best friend I met in the trailer park in about second grade. We went to school together and are still best friends now. (We're really each others' only friend). We both share similar opinions on most things, including the education we've had.
 
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grown up in an area that was falling behind in education, infrastructure, wealth and general tranquility?

Come to think of it, I've never made a friend from the neighborhoods I grew up in who shared my interest in intellectual pursuits. Most of my NT friends grew up in more affluent communities. Is this due to crumbling education in the public schools in these areas?
The first school district I was expelled from has had a drop out rate of >30% for at least the past decade, and I believe they've accumulated ~20 million of debt over the same time period. I never really had friends until I was in college. Otherwise ditto.

It appears you're referencing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_drain

The internet is really the first medium to address this problem.
 
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I never thought I lived in a bad area. Until I told Proxy and he said I'm sorry for you... and some other girl (not implying proxy is a girl) who works in the courts in my area asked me if I was a criminal or a working in law.

I was always kept away from most of it though. I some times hear shootings from the park area behind my house though... and there is the odd guy that we run into at 8pm who got stabbed... and the 300 hundred student riots... It has never seemed particularity dangerous though.

Oh and my friends were all bogans :p Mostly S types though, I honestly never minded.
 
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