INTP in tragedy

[Seducer of the Homeless]

how do INTP's react in grief and tragedy

 

[Carinthian]

We dont? It also depends on what kind of tragedy or grief.

 

[Sugarpop]

Reactions are scary and alien, but kept under control by any means necessary.

Other times, they are just oddly absent.

 

[Da Blob]

how do INTP's react in grief and tragedy

What Grief?
What Tragedy?
What's Grief?
What's Tragedy?

 

[Seducer of the Homeless]

tragedy, loss of a loved one. grief less severe, stress at work, bad relationship.

 

[sagewolf]

I feel empty at the time (tragedy) , as if it hasn't happened at all. It's later, when I'm thinking about something else that's kind of related, that the loss will hit. I think it has to do with realising what I have actually lost, what that person meant to me. When my grandmother died, I didn't feel anything that could be accurately described as grief, and even at the funeral, it didn't really hit me. It was recently, over four years after her death, that the estate was finally settled, and it involved selling her house.

When I thought of that, I just sort of broke down and started crying. The idea of other people in her house, putting their own things there and changing the wallpaper or painting over the walls, was too much for me to take. Maybe it was because that place was the most stable 'home' I ever had (nothing against my family, but we moved a lot. Through all the moves, the only constant places were my grandparents' homes, and hers was the one I spent the most time at), or maybe it was because thinking of other people there really drove the point home that she wasn't there anymore. Either way, I couldn't help but cry: a delayed reaction, but a very real one.

Grief (as you define it): my default setting. Stupid Fe.

 

[Da Blob]

tragedy, loss of a loved one. grief less severe, stress at work, bad relationship.

Okay I'm fine with Grief=Loss,
But is there not some Drama to Tragedy,
as if it were a precursor or sequel to loss?
For example "A Tragic misunderstanding"

 

[Seducer of the Homeless]

i suppose tragedy is dramatic, we shall consult merriam-webster...

1 a: a medieval narrative poem or tale typically describing the downfall of a great man b: a serious drama typically describing a conflict between the protagonist and a superior force (as destiny) and having a sorrowful or disastrous conclusion that elicits pity or terror c: the literary genre of tragic dramas
2 a: a disastrous event : calamity b: misfortune
3: tragic quality or element

enough to work with?

 

[Da Blob]

i suppose tragedy is dramatic, we shall consult merriam-webster...

1 a: a medieval narrative poem or tale typically describing the downfall of a great man b: a serious drama typically describing a conflict between the protagonist and a superior force (as destiny) and having a sorrowful or disastrous conclusion that elicits pity or terror c: the literary genre of tragic dramas
2 a: a disastrous event : calamity b: misfortune
3: tragic quality or element

enough to work with?

Yeah! that will work. I think the idea of conflict=tragedy
is quite an interesting proposition
Especially conflicts of the inner sort,
that are in some manner connected to loss... (Loss = Grief)

 

[Da Blob]

Yeah! that will work. I think the idea of conflict=tragedy
is quite an interesting proposition
Especially conflicts of the inner sort,
that are in some manner connected to loss... (Loss = Grief)

Rats! Rats! Rats!

(Afterthought, you are expecting them to read your mind... again, perhaps you should explain why it is an 'interesting' proposition from your POV?)

Okay, let's define conflict as interaction between two 'agents'
Each often considers himself to be the good guy, the Protagonist
However, this subjective classification may be erroneous, objectively he might be the Protagonist or the the Antagonist.
So conflict can be classified into categories
(P=protagonist, A=Antagonist, S=subjective self - categorization, O= objective categorization)

therefor potential conflict arise between:
SP-OP versus SP-OP, SP-OP versus SP-OA, SP-OP versus SA-OA etc. and etc.

These categories can be expanded even further by adding the factor of Loss or gain into the equation, that is to say both agents could gain, both agents could experience loss, neither could gain or lose, Agent #1 could gain while agent #2 could lose and vice versa

I do not know how large of a grid I just described but it seems to me that an outcome other than a tragic outcome to a conflict, would be a relatively rare event. That being said I wonder if there are some 'real-life' examples for each of the grid elements...?

For an example, SAOA versus SAOA, dual loss.
Two guys get into a fist fight, one goes to the hospital, the other goes to jail

 

[Seducer of the Homeless]

Da Blob i could do with your help in english (light-hearted, not really, would be appreciated) you would teach me well

tomorrow i will go through your past posts and learn