INFJ: Integrating new infomation

[Black Rose]

Sometimes it does not seem that I have ingratiated new information into myself as thoroughly as could be. When I understand something I don't have to thing about its relationships to other facts as it were but automatically can tell if its compatible with (or not) another subject I have come across. The problem is I cannot analyze what I'm taking in in real time if its not what is gauged by what was know beforehand. Totally unrelated data cannot be processed. I was thinking that I was slow in a specific area as to what I could learn. This sort of the difference between calculation and real math. The link to absorbing raw info then to understanding has been a mental block I don't fully get.

If I am being inaccurate it might be that I am trying to decide what coarse to take next semester and don't know what it is I should pick. People tell me I'm intelligent but I see that I have certain features not listed as what would be amiable for what I want to do. I don't much know how to explain what it is that makes me feel deficient but I would say that I've been focusing on objects more than people. People are fine but varying. I wouldn't guess that many have influenced me to any degree where I've benefited in being able to truly connect.

If Se is learning by experience I think it is what I'm not getting good at. Every experience I forget?

 

[Grayman]

That sounds like a general Ne/Ni problem except do you learn from breaking down something from a big picture or putting it together from the pieces?

For me I can know a thing inside out by reverse engineering it from the big picture to the pieces. I am assuming it is the opposite for you.

I just want to get more information before I have an opinion on this matter.

 

[Black Rose]

I don't know what is meant by "big picture" and "pieces".
Then what type of problem is it? My only reference for "problem" is video games and math.
Also the diversity to which each type is going about having problems?(goals)
When learning you start by knowing nothing and building on what is gathered. (child development?)

 

[Grayman]

I don't know what is meant by "big picture" and "pieces".
Then what type of problem is it? My only reference for "problem" is video games and math.
Also the diversity to which each type is going about having problems?(goals)
When learning you start by knowing nothing and building on what is gathered. (child development?)

Math cannot be taken apart the same way so I will just tell you how I used to do it.

In math I used to never learn when the teacher would show us step by step how to do the problem and I would often get bored and stop listening maybe program my calculator.

When I went home I took the even answers and then worked out the problems by pulling concepts from my intuition and then working the pieces together into the answer. When I arrived to a point that I got stuck at, I would mix the basic concepts in math in a new way to bring the answer in the direction I wanted. If that did not work I found the next problem and pulled in the ideas that did work and tried them in the previous problem. If that did not work I would then look up the directions in the math book.

No notes, no listening to the teacher, I simply pull all the seemingly relational ideas that would get me where I need to go, together in a creative way then looked for external input if I got stuck.

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

Sometimes it does not seem that I have ingratiated new information into myself as thoroughly as could be. When I understand something I don't have to thing about its relationships to other facts as it were but automatically can tell if its compatible with (or not) another subject I have come across. The problem is I cannot analyze what I'm taking in in real time if its not what is gauged by what was know beforehand. Totally unrelated data cannot be processed. I was thinking that I was slow in a specific area as to what I could learn. This sort of the difference between calculation and real math. The link to absorbing raw info then to understanding has been a mental block I don't fully get.

In other words, you lack focus to take apart or see the structure of new issues?
Sometimes I feel similarly, that there is something eluding my perception and I will have to return to the specific problem when I have more time and more willpower.
It can even happen when I read something, I could read it several times and not actually understand it, that's when I decide to stop.

If I am being inaccurate it might be that I am trying to decide what coarse to take next semester and don't know what it is I should pick. People tell me I'm intelligent but I see that I have certain features not listed as what would be amiable for what I want to do. I don't much know how to explain what it is that makes me feel deficient but I would say that I've been focusing on objects more than people. People are fine but varying. I wouldn't guess that many have influenced me to any degree where I've benefited in being able to truly connect.

That is quite fair that concepts in themselves can be interesting. I was never overly interested in people, because I never had enough contact to be, if someone is willing to tell me a story I am interested and I would listen and probably enjoy it or learn something if there are some pieces I haven't already heard, or I can make some connections. These days there are some times when I can enjoy being personal and focus on such things, because I have some connections that are for lack of a better word "dear".

Not having the seemingly required traits or characteristics for something and actually doing it only means that there is no such thing as a required set. So it can be said that either these traits are inseparably bound to a thing, or there is some amount of experience after which you will be confident you don't need those.

Do you feel deficient because you have things that you should do and you know it from outside, or is it that you know how you should be from the inside?

 

[Black Rose]

In other words, you lack focus to take apart or see the structure of new issues?
Sometimes I feel similarly, that there is something eluding my perception and I will have to return to the specific problem when I have more time and more willpower.
It can even happen when I read something, I could read it several times and not actually understand it, that's when I decide to stop.

Me I read it all the way through but in response I cannot parse or add my own explanation of it if it is plain to me. So its really memorization and manipulation of the data that I have trouble with. Its not interactive so I need to process longer.

That is quite fair that concepts in themselves can be interesting. I was never interested in people, because I never had much contact to be, if someone is willing to tell me a story I am interested and I would listen and probably enjoy it or learn something if there are some pieces I haven't already heard, or I can make some connections.

The trouble is I'm typed NiFe but use Ti more than Fe. The oscillations where I would interact with people has been stifled. I don't make friend easy in real life so cannot practice type development.

Not having the seemingly required traits or characteristics for something and actually doing it only means that there is no such thing as a required set. So it can be said that either these traits are inseparably bound to a thing, or there is some amount of experience after which you will be confident you don't need those.

But it is my motivation to find connections by narrowing then down to pure causality with Ni. Lack of stimulation internally I must add the external Se or face a spiral of elimination towards nothingness. Ne generates without effort for much can be gained from the external.

Do you feel deficient because you have things that you should do and you know it from outside, or is it that you know how you should be from the inside?

With computer programming the overall structure of the design is highly Ti. Binary logic algorithms are not parallel. By evolution of intelligent selection is how I go about appropriating validity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_neural_network

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

What would you mean by type development? Developing your specific functions?

It is not easy for me to discuss the Ni workings, for me the problem is that I generate too much problems that I could handle with my time, so from what I understand it is the opposite for you?

CNN is quite interesting. The way it is handled from the distributed input that is later connected does seem like Ti.

 

[PmjPmj]

As a confirmed NiFe, this sounds absolutely normal to me.

Any information I absorb in the moment is typically kept as a vague overtone within my subconscious, rushing to the fore when, after ample time has passed to allow full assimilation, a subject pertaining to said knowledge is brought up. We INFJs have the ability to surprise even ourselves when it comes to 'hidden knowledge'; it isn't uncommon for such things to crystallise as we speak, leaving you thinking "Er... how the hell do I know this?!", but outwardly seeming intelligent and / or a badass.

Sorry, crap post as I'm lacking in both sleep and caffeine. Hit me up some time if you wish to discuss the topic in more depth. Bottom line: you're fine - it's simply your brain-wiring. I've also struggled to get my head around this... you're fine, bro. Pinky promise.