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Industrial revolution/industry 4.0

Cognisant

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At my work there's talk of using a Bayesian filters, which are mainly used as spam filters, to filter out inappropriate grant applications and even sort them by importance based upon a range of factors.

The next big industrial revolution is likely to be the development of smart software systems like this that can be taught to do menial office work, threatening the jobs of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of office workers, potentially even millions in places like Tokyo and New York.

In a few decades the great cities may be largely abandoned in favor of many smaller towns and villages, there simply being no reason to fill cubicles with office workers anymore.
 

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At my work there's talk of using a Bayesian filters, which are mainly used as spam filters, to filter out inappropriate grant applications and even sort them by importance based upon a range of factors.

One of the companies at our floor are writing algorithms for analyzing legal contracts.

I can only assume that you save a shitload of time and money using those algorithms instead of a team of lawyers, accountants and whatnot.

So I'd say this revolution is not really a prediction, it's already here.
 

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On the article, I flat out disagree. Globalization hasn't taken full root yet to have a market where this is even possible in the first place. Technological revolutions require entire regional markets being equalized for a transformation to occur.

I agree that it'll eventually happen, but most likely much later, maybe 50 years later. Just to weigh in on this cheaply, if you look at the technological revolution graph they provide in the article, each 'leap' took about a century each. Steam to electricity took 86 years and electricity to electronics took 99 years. Electronics to 'cyber-physical systems'? It's only been 47 years since then.

It'll happen, but there isn't enough supply and demand for it to really boost off presently. You would need Southeast Asia, Africa, Central Asia, and South America to take on the burdens of industrial economies/industrialization. If you take a took at the economic histories of Korea and Japan, Japan was able to start its textile industries faster, which lead to telecommunications and electronic technologies. The textile industries then later shifted to Korea due to lower wages/cheap labor, while high tech machinery, like medical equipment and high end cameras was being spearheaded in Japan. Right now the labor and industrial base is being shifted to places in Southeast Asia. Basically, there isn't a global economy where we could support a highly technological 'cyber-physical system' yet, the market needs to become bigger.

The author of the article is this guy, who seems to have an overly European bent on his industrial visions. Europe being highly technological might see this future coming faster (as Tann notes with the algorithms), but I really doubt it'll come soon as the author seems to suggest, given all the crisis' lately and with the condition of the economy.
 

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Most relevant part of the article is this:

Like the revolutions that preceded it, the Fourth Industrial Revolution has the potential to raise global income levels and improve the quality of life for populations around the world. (...)

In the future, technological innovation will also lead to a supply-side miracle, with long-term gains in efficiency and productivity. Transportation and communication costs will drop, logistics and global supply chains will become more effective, and the cost of trade will diminish, all of which will open new markets and drive economic growth.

At the same time, as the economists Erik Brynjolfsson and Andrew McAfee have pointed out, the revolution could yield greater inequality, particularly in its potential to disrupt labor markets. As automation substitutes for labor across the entire economy, the net displacement of workers by machines might exacerbate the gap between returns to capital and returns to labor. On the other hand, it is also possible that the displacement of workers by technology will, in aggregate, result in a net increase in safe and rewarding jobs.

We cannot foresee at this point which scenario is likely to emerge, and history suggests that the outcome is likely to be some combination of the two. However, I am convinced of one thing—that in the future, talent, more than capital, will represent the critical factor of production. This will give rise to a job market increasingly segregated into “low-skill/low-pay” and “high-skill/high-pay” segments, which in turn will lead to an increase in social tensions.

It's funny, if you read old text about socialism/communism, it's the same thing. The whole argument relates to these issues when they first emerged in the initial industrial revolution: Increase in performance due to mechanization and science has lead to a supply miracle, workers are being displaced and capitalists (owners) are reaping more profits than ever, creating massive wealth disparity and social tensions. If we could take control of the means of production (the machines) away from the capitalists, we could distribute all the new wealth and improve the quality of life for all!

150+ years we're still facing the same fundamental problem. This is why I've argued that the 20th century was "unfinished" and WW3 is likely. Long story short:
Socialism failed in the 19th century, then failed in the early 20th century which led to the most disastrous wars in centuries, possibly ever. After the wars, the issue of creating a sustainable, non-exploitative economic system for the world wasn't resolved, instead there was a cold war which led to a new generation of world war with proxy guerrilla armies, destabilization, economic sabotage and covert operations. We're still stuck in the cycle, so we're now experiencing ever worsening effects of the cold war 2.0, with a new generation of war with perfected strategies of covert action, mass economic manipulation, cyberwarfare and dystopian levels of propaganda. The crazy economic system is pushing the limits again, so a crash, mass civil unrest, and all out war are serious possibilities.
It's not hype... and it's not "eventually" happening... it is already happening. It has been talked about and observed for years. Since robotization started in the 60s (?), and then the internet in the 90s, there has been much change. The price/capacity relationship of computing and robotic components keeps improving, so machines and software are increasingly making more and more humans inefficient and obsolete.

It's the whole singularity argument of exponential technological development.

So you want some evidence of it happening? "Just" applying IT and software to manufacturing...

How Technology is Destroying Jobs

Technology and Inequality

Who Will Own the Robots?


The question is not, is this happening, but rather, what the fuck is going to happen next?

Four Futures

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Establishing the world-wide stability is an evolutionary challenge for the human race, though the species to achieve that might not necessarily call themselves human any longer.

He said it best.

Technological revolutions require entire regional markets being equalized for a transformation to occur.

Why?
 

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Will happen?when was it ended?
Jobs are becoming more and more unneeded, many jobs are not because of need but because someone can.The "next" is the point where most non creative jobs will be gone.Softwere dev will become AI trainers, the AI will "write" the code.
The point that AI will become an actual worker is coming close, think of a farm that don't ask for money, then transporting the food by self-driving truck that use energy from the sun, then you order the food online and it comes to your home by AI, the food will cost next to notthing .People are burning their crops, the food price is artifcal, once AI will run it there will be no need for minimal wage or needless jobs.
 
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