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I'm suddenly doubting whether I'm INTP or not.

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I've come to think that I might be an ISTP. Even though I've seen myself as an INTP for at least 3 years. Can't decide, though.

Input would be appreciated.

Reasons I suspect I'm ISTP:

  • Looking back on my childhood, I seemed more ISTP than INTP. I was your typical tomboy: loved sports, climbing trees and hay bales (spent a few years in rural Alberta, haha), was a bit aggressive, etc. Enjoyed finding interesting stuff to do where there was none, like building catapults and tracking wolf paw prints in the woods. My general approach to issues then was to take everything apart and put it back together again. Was a class clown. More of a proprietor of physical humour.
  • I've been reading up on Ti-Ni loops, or "the WTF years," and how they can cause you to mistype as an intuitive. They're described as a rut that causes ISTPs not to use Se much and keeps them in their heads...and I can relate. I feel my happiest when I'm out doing spontaneous stuff; I don't always appreciate being stuck in my head all the time. Not to mention I've literally felt as if I've been in a rut for the last few years.
  • Something I've been aware of for a long time is that I'm more literal and practical than INTPs usually are. I don't sit around brainstorming about random theoretical shit all the time; I'm usually in the present, or at least the near-future. The way I learn is also more factual and by example/hands-on than I'd expect of INTPs.
  • When I look at an issue, I often see an immediate solution. There isn't always that Ne-style "you can do this, this, or maybe even this" brainstorming going on. Just a quick evaluation and solution.
  • A friend told me I have a sort of practical approach to life that's ISTP-ish; a no fucks given attitude they're prone to.
  • I'm not drawn to constantly learning. I enjoy learning, but it's usually activity-based learning. I want to tack on new experiences to my existing ones; find new hobbies to master. (But the rut hasn't been helping with this.)
  • One of my greatest fears is being an invalid. My friend told me that this fear also sounds ISTP of me.
  • Now, speaking of friends: my closest ones have always been sensors: ISFP, ISTP (I've always found myself a bit drawn to/intrigued by ISTPs...), ESTJ. Not sure if it's out of convenience or compatibility.
  • If I had to pick, I'd rather have a wide variety of skills (and knowledge related to those skills) than a wide variety of knowledge for its own sake.
Doubts:

  • I'm usually absent-minded as hell. But can that be attributed to Ti-Ni repressed Se?
  • I've always been under the impression I use Ne. Especially with my situational humour. (edit) An example of what I had interpreted as Ne is how, when I was in school, I could effectively bullshit answers. I could build an argument out of nothing, or seem as if I know what I'm talking about.
  • I'm drawn to intuitives far more than sensors. Whether they're authors, comedians, actors or people in my day-to-day life.
  • I don't entirely understand Ni or whether I use it.
  • I probably have other doubts but I'm too high to remember them at the moment.
  • (edit) This may be stereotyping ISTPs, but I do still enjoy theoretical topics. As well as debating about them. MBTI, obviously. Philosophy too.
  • (edit) Do ISTPs have a memory for pointless facts? Because I do. I always assumed that was tertiary Si forcing me to remember conversations in detail, or everyone's birthdays and phone numbers. My short-term memory is especially good, though. I always used to study for tests by jotting down important notes from an assigned textbook chapter and then reading 'em over a few times - it never failed me.
Anyway, sorry for the attack of text. (Doesn't seem very ISTP of me... Hm.)

If you could help me come to terms with whether I'm actually an ISTP or not, though, that'd be great.


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What part of being ISTP do you want to come to terms with? Is there some particular part of INTP you thought was better than ISTP? Are you positive about it or just laying out facts for us to interpret?

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What part of being ISTP do you want to come to terms with? Is there some particular part of INTP you thought was better than ISTP? Are you positive about it or just laying out facts for us to interpret?

Mister Eus Lee

I'm seriously just wondering whether I'm INTP or ISTP. Since I'm having difficulty deciding, I thought I'd ask for input.
 

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Maybe knowing your age would help. From what I understand, INTPs develop their functions more slowly than ISTPs.
 
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I've read around your age is when people start developing their tertiary function more. So if you're an INTP that could explain it. So who knows.

Could be you're borderline on the S/N spectrum. If that's a thing.
 

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The MBTI doesn't predict behaviour. That's a very common misconception.

Behaviour is influenced by a plethora of factors which has nothing to do with the cognitive functions we use. Traits... mmm, maybe - but behaviour? No.
 
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The MBTI doesn't predict behaviour. That's a very common misconception.

Behaviour is influenced by a plethora of factors which has nothing to do with the cognitive functions we use. Traits... mmm, maybe - but behaviour? No.

Okay, so maybe I didn't mean behaviour, per se. But I figure certain approaches/choices/tendencies are indicative of certain cognitive functions - which is what I had in mind when I said behaviour.
 

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Yes, it kinda does sound like you are ISTP.

Im pretty sure one of my closest friends is ISTP, and in some respects there is a clear difference between me and him:

- He does not give a shit about philosophy or overly abstract stuff. He once asked me "what is the point of philosophy" and asked me to give an example where it applies to life to prove its utility.

- I have heard this somewhere else but have also witnessed it myself: ISTPs are immensely offended if you question their memory of some event. They do indeed have good memories, while I have the shittiest memory you can think of when it comes to remembering things like numbers or sequences of any kind. But the ISTP seems to believe that their memory is infallible, like a computer memory.

- In terms of learning the ISTP seems to be less interested in the general principle behind a thing as opposed to simply make it work for some specific purpose. Whenever I learn something, I want to know how it connects to everything else, including the history of its conception and why and when the concept was discovered/invented. The ISTP probably thinks this kind of learning is pure madness and is pretty much content with just knowing the isolated piece of fact.
 

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The MBTI doesn't predict behaviour. That's a very common misconception.

Behaviour is influenced by a plethora of factors which has nothing to do with the cognitive functions we use. Traits... mmm, maybe - but behaviour? No.

How is behaviour independent of cognitive functions? I think MBTI is highly useful for predicting behaviour.
 

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How is behaviour independent of cognitive functions? I think MBTI is highly useful for predicting behaviour.

behavior can mask inclinations and desires; it can present us as something we are not and have us come to believe that's what we are. It can be willingly changed to certain extents, without a whole lot of effort; and its meaning changes based on how it is perceived. If the idea is to reach at the essence of a person, it simply misleads. Though if that's understood, it probably isn't a bad start.
 

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Probable ISTP, mistyped as INTP. Lots of them around.
 
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