I seriously need someone to type me.

[Milo]

I have typed as an INFP, INTP, INFJ, ENFP, ISTP and probably more. Based on what you know about me on here from previous posts, what do you think I am?

Here is a list of things about me as well. (I'm not sure if everything is relevant):

I can be very detailed when I really believe in something.

I am extremely strategic (can see chess moves way ahead).

I can read how people feel just by interacting with them or observing them.

I can also detect when someone is lying or faking something very easily.

I am not very consistent.
I am not very organized usually, but I am extremely organized when I want to be.

I can see patterns very easily.

I am really good learning new things.

I am really good at helping people out when they are feeling depressed. (I just helped out a girl get over a guy breaking up with her by tapping into her thoughts by asking questions and telling her how to justify herself to get over him.)

I constantly change what I want and what I live for.

I can feel a huge amount of emotion.

I have a very vivid and visual imagination.

I can be very romantic because my imagination allows me to strategize as well as empathize with an imaginary version of the other person I plan on being with.

I am very coordinated.

I can make up hundreds of solutions to most problems.

I can also memorize numbers very well by looking for patterns and remembering them.

I'm mostly driven intrinsically by what I think is right.

 

[DeadonDreaming]

ENFJ

 

[themirror]

ENFJ

Agreed

 

[Hadoblado]

Do not use the tests, they are rubbish. Learn what each function is:
Ne
Ni
Se
Si
Fe
Fi
Te
Ti
There are only eight, which is the same number as there are polars to the dichotomies. They are truly more useful and will give you a much better understanding of MBTI. The dichotomies are not even a thing.

Then, identify which ones you are sure you have, and post the results here. From this information, INTP MBTI gurus will be able to infer the less explicit functions from the ones you definitely have. For example, if you definitely have Ne, then Ni is only in your shadow function (the bottom four), and Si is in one of your top four. Once you are able to identify your top four functions, you can then narrow the possible types down to four, and choose the one that sounds the most like you. For example, if you found you have:
- Ne
- Fi
- Si
- Te
in your top four, then you are either an ISTJ, ESTJ, INFP, or ENFP. You should at least be able to rule out two of these options, leaving you with one or two types to select from.

 

[Milo]

Do not use the tests, they are rubbish. Learn what each function is:
Ne
Ni
Se
Si
Fe
Fi
Te
Ti
There are only eight, which is the same number as there are polars to the dichotomies. They are truly more useful and will give you a much better understanding of MBTI. The dichotomies are not even a thing.

Then, identify which ones you are sure you have, and post the results here. From this information, INTP MBTI gurus will be able to infer the less explicit functions from the ones you definitely have. For example, if you definitely have Ne, then Ni is only in your shadow function (the bottom four), and Si is in one of your top four. Once you are able to identify your top four functions, you can then narrow the possible types down to four, and choose the one that sounds the most like you. For example, if you found you have:
- Ne
- Fi
- Si
- Te
in your top four, then you are either an ISTJ, ESTJ, INFP, or ENFP. You should at least be able to rule out two of these options, leaving you with one or two types to select from.

I know, I have tried this, but I always feel I have all of the functions... haha. But, ENFJ may be right. I'm looking into it. The only thing is that I always see myself in most of the descriptions. Maybe that also shows that I pick through information and kind of create my own self-fulfilling prophecy of who I am which could be an indicator of my type as well?

 

[pjoa09]

INFP

I mean there is the Te Fi and Ne.

In my experience INFPs have always been excellent in school when they need to be.

Yet, somehow, they can't actually give the whole rat's ass.
They are more entertained by relationships and always have an artistic hobby on stand by.

I have bitten their moral code a few times and they snap viciously back. I mean they will maul you for it.

 

[Milo]

I'll also add that when I learn a new concept, I usually make it into a model in my head for better memory.

I take criticism harshly (I've been working on that).

I am extremely concerned about my health.

The thing that matters the most to me is relationships.

I can write very well.

An example of my romantic thoughts would be me laying on my bed with a girl and putting some cereal-box ring on her hand as a symbol, and we would just lay there and smile at each other.

I do a lot of things for other people and not myself as well.

When it comes to work, I am a perfectionist.

I also feel obligated to help fix other people's conflicts.

 

[Milo]

INFP

I mean there is the Te Fi and Ne.

In my experience INFPs have always been excellent in school when they need to be.

Yet, somehow, they can't actually give the whole rat's ass.
They are more entertained by relationships and always have an artistic hobby on stand by.

I have bitten their moral code a few times and they snap viciously back. I mean they will maul you for it.

That's the big thing. I dont know if I have an Ne/Fi combo or an Ni/Fe combo. What is the difference?

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Milo, you are describing yourself but you are leaving out context, which is the most important aspect in involving yourself in this.

Anyone can exhibit certain behaviors for whatever reasons at whenever times, but it's "why" and "how" that makes a difference. In other words, the psychological motivations and qualities of your behavioral tendencies.

 

[Milo]

@EyeSeeCold

If I see someone crying. I feel really bad and want to help them. If I know the situation I will, if I don't I'll ask around or just let them cry themselves in fear that I will be making them feel uncomfortable.

If I have a goal in mind and really want it, I can come up with many strategies while imaging everything that could go wrong, so I can also make plan b,c,d,e...etc. and tangent off of those pretty well also.

I am also more of a person who likes to do everything independently. I am not so good with coordinating with others unless I really trust them. Even then, I would prefer to do it all myself so that I know it is done exactly how I want it, and so that I can be sure I know how it was done so that I can strategize for my next move.

The context of the romance would be something triggering it. Like that person texting me things or a song I am hearing/heard or a movie I just recently watched.

I am very motivated by the possibility of something else that I think is going to make my life better as well. Like a new job being offered to me. I may just take it because I am bored with life right now, but deep deep down I already know I'll like it only for a while and then the same thing will happen again, but that is only because I know myself in that way.

 

[snafupants]

That's the big thing. I dont know if I have an Ne/Fi combo or an Ni/Fe combo. What is the difference?

That's not how the functions work in tandem; here's a rundown of the traditional combinations.

Fi-Te
Ni-Se
Ne-Si
Fe-Ti

 

[Milo]

That's not how the functions work in tandem; here's a rundown of the traditional combinations.

Fi-Te
Ni-Se
Ne-Si
Fe-Ti

I meant my dominant and auxiliary functions. Pssshhh. Tradition.
I'm pretty sure I have feeling and intuition in the top two, but idk.

 

[snafupants]

http://personalityjunkie.com/enfj-type-profile/

http://personalityjunkie.com/enfj-careers-jobs-majors/

How does this profile grab you? @Milo

Answer that question then take an honest look at the functions.

http://personalityjunkie.com/functions-ni-ti-fi-si-ne-te-fe-se/

Maybe also ask yourself how friends, family, and strangers see you.

 

[NinjaSurfer]

What kind of music do you listen to?

Does music affect your mood? Or,
Do you pick music to match your mood?

 

[Milo]

@snafupants

It does sound like me, but other types seem like they sound like me as well. It's just been so difficult deciding what personality I really am. What if I really am some sort of mutant??? Ahhh! Lol.

 

[NinjaSurfer]

@snafupants

It does sound like me, but other types seem like they sound like me as well. It's just been so difficult deciding what personality I really am. What if I really am some sort of mutant??? Ahhh! Lol.

I'm gonna go with INFP because I feel like slapping you and telling you to shut up and go to sleep like an emo.

O_o

 

[Milo]

What kind of music do you listen to?

Does music affect your mood? Or,
Do you pick music to match your mood?

Both, but I think it mostly affects my mood. I listen to pretty much all music except screamo and most rap. I'm mostly into light rock and songs that have a lot of feeling in them. Like this one per say --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VCtUvVZ9Eg or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP0ngiMBnas or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yftOy8kz7aE

 

[EyeSeeCold]

@EyeSeeCold

If I see someone crying. I feel really bad and want to help them. If I know the situation I will, if I don't I'll ask around or just let them cry themselves in fear that I will be making them feel uncomfortable.

What moral attitude(s) or emotional experience(s) inside you is their crying speaking to, to make you feel responsible for it? How far would you go in helping the person assuming it's someone you know well? What are your limits?

What are you achieving by helping people who are crying? Is this something you just do passively, or would you ever take a more active social stance(e.g. police officer, social worker, volunteer)?

etc

 

[Milo]

I'm gonna go with INFP because I feel like slapping you and telling you to shut up and go to sleep like an emo.

O_o

Haha. Maybe this is actually happening because I've read all those books on being happy and have made habits that are like other types, but now I identify myself with my old self and those new habits I now have.

 

[snafupants]

@snafupants

It does sound like me, but other types seem like they sound like me as well. It's just been so difficult deciding what personality I really am. What if I really am some sort of mutant??? Ahhh! Lol.

Square pegs go into square holes!

I'd advise going one by one through each modality (e.g., Fe versus Fi) and canceling one (e.g., Fi) accordingly. This will leave you with four types.

For instance, Fi-Te-Ni-Se would leave XNTJ and XSFP - four types.

Read the description of each of these remaining four or try to discern the dominant function and order of functions in your functional stack.

The dominant function makes up the lion's share of personality in MBTI so you could also peruse the eight functions and pinpoint your strongest or most comfortable area.

Alternatively, let me ask this question - do you have an agenda when you start the day?

If you're feeling super lazy, I could help you uncover each function one by one.

 

[Milo]

What moral attitude(s) or emotional experience(s) inside you is their crying speaking to, to make you feel responsible for it? How far would you go in helping the person assuming it's someone you know well? What are your limits?

What are you achieving by helping people who are crying? Is this something you just do passively, or would you ever take a more active social stance(e.g. police officer, social worker, volunteer)?

etc

I sincerely care about how they feel and what happens to them. If I don't help them, I wonder what will happen to them until I see them again and if something does happen to them, I would feel like it was my fault. I just always feel like everyone needs someone to really understand them and talk through their problems with them.

I'm not sure what my limits would be. It would be circumstantial. I guess I wouldn't hurt another person for them if that made them feel better. I would solve their problem by justifying something else in their head to make them feel better. When I justify things into them, I usually say things that create a good feeling inside of them.

I think I would be a good social worker or police officer, but idk. I don't really know what that would be like in a work environment.

 

[Milo]

Square pegs go into square holes!

I'd advise going one by one through each modality (e.g., Fe versus Fi) and canceling one (e.g., Fi) accordingly. This will leave you with four types.

For instance, Fi-Te-Ni-Se would leave XNTJ and XSFP - four types.

Read the description of each of these remaining four or try to discern the dominant function and order of functions in your functional stack.

The dominant function makes up the lion's share of personality in MBTI so you could also peruse the eight functions and pinpoint your strongest or most comfortable area.

Alternatively, let me ask this question - do you have an agenda when you start the day?

If you're feeling super lazy, I could help you uncover each function one by one.

No, I definitely feel lazy every morning. Haha. I only have an agenda if I have prior commitments like work or something scheduled. Otherwise I just think about what I wanna do, and that takes hours so I just surf the web or something. Haha.

 

[snafupants]

I sincerely care about how they feel and what happens to them. If I don't help them, I wonder what will happen to them until I see them again and if something does happen to them, I would feel like it was my fault. I just always feel like everyone needs someone to really understand them and talk through their problems with them.

I'm not sure what my limits would be. It would be circumstantial. I guess I wouldn't hurt another person for them if that made them feel better. I would solve their problem by justifying something else in their head to make them feel better. When I justify things into them, I usually say things that create a good feeling inside of them.

I think I would be a good social worker or police officer, but idk. I don't really know what that would be like in a work environment.

All right, this needs to begin somewhere - do you identify with Fe more than Fi normally?

The above post, put bluntly, oozes Fe and interpersonal goo.

Where there's Fe, there's Ti. That leaves eight types.

 

[Milo]

All right, this needs to begin somewhere - do you identify with Fe more than Fi normally?

The above post, put bluntly, oozes Fe and interpersonal goo.

Where there's Fe, there's Ti. That leaves eight types.

I'm gonna say it is Fe.

 

[snafupants]

No, I definitely feel lazy every morning. Haha. I only have an agenda if I have prior commitments like work or something scheduled. Otherwise I just think about what I wanna do, and that takes hours so I just surf the web or something. Haha.

That sounds more perceiving, according to the functions, than judging.

What does that mean? An INFJ would actually be perceiving because the dominant function (Ni) is perceiving. Does that make sense?

http://personalityjunkie.com/myers-briggs-theory-type-dynamics/2/

http://www.keys2cognition.com/cgjung.htm

Edit: So can it be said that you are Fe-Ti and perceiving according to the functions?

 

[Milo]

That sounds more perceiving, according to the functions, than judging.

What does that mean? An INFJ would actually be perceiving because the dominant function (Ni) is perceiving. Does that make sense?

http://personalityjunkie.com/myers-briggs-theory-type-dynamics/2/

http://www.keys2cognition.com/cgjung.htm

Edit: So can it be said that you are Fe-Ti and perceiving according to the functions?

Yeah, that makes sense. I know how it works. I just can't fit myself in there. Haha.

 

[snafupants]

Yeah, that makes sense. I know how it works. I just can't fit myself in there. Haha.

Is there anything wrong with INFJ vis-a-vis...you!?

The Fe-Ti thing fits with the perceiving-dom (Ni) function. Just a thought.

How much affinity do you feel for introverted intuition?

 

[Milo]

Is there anything wrong with INFJ vis-a-vis...you!?

The Fe-Ti thing fits with the perceiving-dom (Ni) function. Just a thought.

How much affinity do you feel for introverted intuition?

Well, I'm pretty sure I have Si. I just read that page and I always see people's faces and mistake them for another person who looks a lot like them. Like whenever I see Leslie Bibb, she reminds me of Rachel McAdams. I'll always mistake similar looking actors for each other like that. Is that Si?

 

[snafupants]

Well, I'm pretty sure I have Si. I just read that page and I always see people's faces and mistake them for another person who looks a lot like them. Like whenever I see Leslie Bibb, she reminds me of Rachel McAdams. I'll always mistake similar looking actors for each other like that. Is that Si?

Maybe you're garden variety, lazy as fuck INTP?

The functions you're describing are INTP...or some similar permutation.

You mentioned Fe, inherently with Ti, and Si, inherently with Ne.

 

[Milo]

And yeah, I mostly identify with Ni.

 

[Milo]

I'm Ni, Fe, Si, Ti. It just doesn't make sense... lol.

 

[snafupants]

I'm Ni, Fe, Si, Ti. It just doesn't make sense... lol.

It's more likely you're confusing Si and Ti and you use Ni-Se.

That works more with the perceiving detail.

Also, you mentioned identifying with Ni...which furthers the INFJ case.

I mean, now you're working with Ni-Fe-Ti (three functions you admittedly employ)...and Se because Se comes with Ni.

From what I gather INFJ > ENFJ because of the perceiving detail. I could clearly be wrong though.

 

[Milo]

It's more likely you're confusing Si and Ti and you use Ni-Se.

That works more with the perceiving detail.

Also, you mentioned identifying with Ni...which furthers the INFJ case.

I mean, now you're working with Ni-Fe-Ti (three functions you admittedly employ)...and Se because Se comes with Ni.

I just have this network of facts that keep building upon each other like a bunch of pieces fitting into a giant puzzle with all the little details slowly building themselves. I wish I could draw a picture of this. It's like everything is connected with everything else. Are INFJs usually crazy?

EDIT: Well, they may not actually be facts, just my understandings.

 

[snafupants]

I just have this network of facts that keep building upon each other like a bunch of pieces fitting into a giant puzzle with all the little details slowly building themselves. I wish I could draw a picture of this. It's like everything is connected with everything else.

That sounds stereotypically Ni.

http://www.erictb.info/temperament2.html

Are INFJs usually crazy?

Very much so.

 

[snafupants]

EDIT: Well, they may not actually be facts, just my understandings.

@Milo

That further underscores this internal process as Ni over Si.

The puzzle analogy is a very common rhetorical tool for conveying Ni.

 

[Words]

The "teach a person how to type themselves" does not work. People can't simply absorb functions in one go. It takes time, experience, and especially interest. The best thing you can do is post a video.

 

[snafupants]

The "teach a person how to type themselves" does not work. People can't simply absorb functions in one go. It takes time, experience, and especially interest. The best thing you can do is post a video.

I agree with both points - learning the functions takes time and you should post a video.

I won't make fun. Scout's honor.

 

[INeedToPee]

sounds like you've determined the xNFx part.

when someone comes to you for advice,are you more likely to:
a) think, and then come up with one solid solution
b) think of possibilities, and share some if not all of them

when talking to others, do you:
a) frequently use terms like "i don't think", "i think", "i'm pretty sure", etc. for "political correctness" (modifiers, you can see them all over this post im typing )
b) neglect such terms because you are usually confident in your convictions

when storytelling, do you:
a) include lots of little details because you think they're all vital to the story (or they're interesting)
b) cut to the chase, tell the truly important details to get to the essence of the story

this is an attempt to determine the J/P preference. if im doing it wrong please let me know! im learning
(i live in constant doubt. Milo, if you're anything like this, you're probably a P )

http://www.keys2cognition.com/cgjung.htm
a cognitive function test might shed some light on your type and if it doesn't determine your type, it can at least give us a bit more information to work on. hopefully its reliable

 

[Absurdity]

If you are:

Unwittingly manipulative as well as goal driven - ENFJ

An earthy, head-in-the-clouds puppy lover - INFP

 

[Milo]

sounds like you've determined the xNFx part.

when someone comes to you for advice,are you more likely to:
a) think, and then come up with one solid solution
b) think of possibilities, and share some if not all of them

when talking to others, do you:
a) frequently use terms like "i don't think", "i think", "i'm pretty sure", etc. for "political correctness" (modifiers, you can see them all over this post im typing )
b) neglect such terms because you are usually confident in your convictions

when storytelling, do you:
a) include lots of little details because you think they're all vital to the story (or they're interesting)
b) cut to the chase, tell the truly important details to get to the essence of the story

this is an attempt to determine the J/P preference. if im doing it wrong please let me know! im learning
(i live in constant doubt. Milo, if you're anything like this, you're probably a P )

http://www.keys2cognition.com/cgjung.htm
a cognitive function test might shed some light on your type and if it doesn't determine your type, it can at least give us a bit more information to work on. hopefully its reliable

I think of possibilities

I use the terms

I am really bad at story telling, so I usually just cut to the chase.

 

[Milo]

If you are:

Unwittingly manipulative as well as goal driven - ENFJ

An earthy, head-in-the-clouds puppy lover - INFP

I switch between these often depending on my energy level or if I know what it is I want and have motivation.

 

[RadicalDreamer31]

I know nothing of you, but I think you type as a MILO.

 

[pjoa09]

What kind of music do you listen to?

Does music affect your mood? Or,
Do you pick music to match your mood?

Music does not reflect personality properly. It reflects your experiences. One can make the argument that your experiences are the result of your personality but still not so much as random cosmology.

 

[pjoa09]

I switch between these often depending on my energy level or if I know what it is I want and have motivation.

Which one do you like being?

Or tend to be most of the time?

 

[koan]

There are usually multiple selves. Other people project what they expect you to be and only you know what you are comfortable being. I've never come up with multiple results because I clearly separate what I do for other people and what I do because I want to. Perhaps that is where your confusion results. I can be extroverted when I go out to a dance club because I drink a lot of alcohol that lets me be okay touching other people and absorbing their emotional attachment to me temporarily filling their "gaps" lol.

I'm still an introvert because I don't go out to clubs unless I'm pressured. Then I regret the text messages I have to deal with later.

There is you, then there is the you other people want you to be. If you spend a week trying to deal with consequences you've acted out of type.

 

[snafupants]

I'm still an introvert because I don't go out to clubs unless I'm pressured.

Isn't that conflating social and cognitive introversion?

I suppose going strictly by the four letters and MBTI bastardization they're close enough though.

 

[koan]

Isn't that conflating social and cognitive introversion?

I suppose going strictly by the four letters and MBTI bastardization they're close enough though.

There is a lot of potential bastardization involved if I go out clubbing.

 

[INeedToPee]

I think of possibilities

I use the terms

I am really bad at story telling, so I usually just cut to the chase.

you sound like a perceiver to me.
if you want to be sure, the thing that helped me determine if i was an INTP or INTJ was reading threads online that explained the difference between the two types. just google "ENFP or ENFJ" or if you think you're an introvert...yeah i think you get the point

 

[NinjaSurfer]

me

I just typed "me"

I hope you are satisfied

 

[EyeSeeCold]

The "teach a person how to type themselves" does not work. People can't simply absorb functions in one go. It takes time, experience, and especially interest. The best thing you can do is post a video.

Not just the functions, but some people lack introspection. Though I guess one can also lack extrospection. Jungian functions seem more the former, and MBTI seems the latter.