Hey!

[mm1991]

So, I'm new.
People just call me 'M' since my name starts with M.

I'm 16 years old and I just found out I was an INTP.

I HATE grammer mistakes, they bug me.
I'm homeschooled because I didn't like the kids that went to my highschool.
I really don't go out of my house at all and don't have that many friends.
....but it really doesn't bother me.

To get 'in the zone' I HAVE to pace. I'm not sure why yet, but that is when I do my best thinking. preferably with music on. Sometimes I'm bouncing a ball or something at the same time. And I can go for hours on end just thinking about one specific thing or just random thoughts.

When I was little I used to pace outside while dribbling my basketball all day long. My mom thought I was a total weirdo.

Anyways, that's a LITTLE bit about me. =]]

 

[Claverhouse]

Hi M. Welcome.


Claverhouse

 

[loveofreason]

Hi there. How do you like being homeschooled? Being a teenager can really suck when your peers have some kind of hive mind and you think a little differently.

I plan on homeschooling my kids. If I don't have a nervous breakdown first.

 

[mm1991]

I LOVE being homeschooled. In most subjects I am at college level, so it's nice to go my own speed.

 

[username]

Welcome

I also homeschool.
and gramor bugs me to . may be in a diferent way

 

[Vrecknidj]

I have just joined. I'm no longer 16, it's been 24 years since I was that age. I do have two kids, one is 18, the other is 13, so I have a recollection of what it was like to be 16 though.

I felt compelled to reply because my wife and I have homeschooled our kids. My older son has been attending college courses since he turned 14, and my younger son (the INTP) is too much of a renegade to be ambitious enough to start college by the same age, but he'll probably start early as well.

It's not that I have anything against schooling, per se. After all, I am a private tutor at a military school, and a teacher at a very large public university. However, there have been tremendous advantages to schooling our kids at home and we've taken them.

Cheers,

Dave

 

[Ermine]

homeschool sounds like a great way to learn but I really don't imagine how I'd be if it weren't for the social aspect of public school. Though I am fairly satisfied with my situation, my biggest problem is either my lack of friends or social skills. Everything else is covered.

 

[Wisp]

Mmmm... School has taught me social skills... to a degree. They've also instilled in me a deep and abiding hate for "Normal people", or, as I call them, inferior beings. I exaggerate of course, but school has had a tendency to suck. I do, however, have but 2 years left of high school, since I don't really see benefits at leaving now, since I have managed to acquire "friends" (Weirdos with my sense of humor). However, I live surrounded by people who are part of the cause of the USAs defecit: The willfully welfare. I won't go into detail, but aside from the "nerd program" in our school, you see a lot of the kids that'll be having 4 kids by the time their twenty and will prob'ly live their life on welfare. I won't go into detail, or say that more than 60 - 80% of my school is like that, but I do have a very reliable basis for my assumptions. But that aside, school has it's ups and downs, and I personally think thta kids should be homeschooled until maybe high school. My personal views. Anyone else?

 

[Polymer]

The social aspect of school is pretty important, and althougth it sucks for an INTP I'd say it's important for an whoever that person was, to give them a glimpse of what people can be like. Waste of time? Perhaps...but the time among others, is invaluable due to the nature of how the world works. Or at least how america's world works.

I find highSchool to be far to late :/, Although I'll agree the schooling system in general isn't very good at all.

Perhaps a homeschooling system, where you'd take kids to the park to see other kids every once in awhile?

 

[Ermine]

I'd probably prefer homeschool if it weren't for the fact that I'm not one to strike up a conversation with just anyone.

 

[Wisp]

The social aspect of school IS important, but elementary school = not fun. Middle school is a judgment call, and HS should be attended. At least, as I see it.

 

[lightspeed]

Hi M! My first name starts with M too. :-P That's a good choice for a name.

 

[mm1991]

Ah......"inferior beings" instead of "normal people"...I must remember that!

 

[Wisp]

"Truly we are luminous beings." ~ The Jedi

 

[camepelt]

Wisp, I definitely see your point with those kinds of people. I was lucky to get into private school in 5th grade, but there are still some people at my school (if you can believe that at such a prestigious place!) who are stupid jocks, but their parents are rich, and they'll just end up inheriting their family business without jack squat. They either refuse to learn, or have some form of ADD or other 'learning disability' that they rely on to not try hard in school. I totally agree with you that those kind of people exist, and inhabit a worryingly large percentage of the American population. There's still this one haunting statistic from the documentary "Jesus Camp": over 25% of Americans are 'Evangelical Christians.' In a sense, neo-con wackos!

 

[Wisp]

Yeah, but what I'm saying is that the RATIO of smart/stupid is higher, not that stupid people go away. Besides, dealing with stupid people is an essential skill in society.

 

[mm1991]

Okay, I'm a Christian and I hated "Jesus Camp", those people creeped me out, and I and every other religious person I know do NOT speak in tongues!

 

[Cabbo Pearimo]

School has allowed me to meet many interesting and acceptable people, or the opposite. But it made me me, so that'll do.

 

[Alie]

Being an INTP means, according to my understanding, that we have difficulty socializing with others. Therefore, I believe that going to public high school is good for us because we can get used to it before going to college or a job in the future. High school gets us ready psychologically just as it gets us ready academically (in some cases)!

 

[Wisp]

Difficulty socializing with others is only a single facet of INTP-ness. It also is not always there in an INTP.

 

[Ermine]

Also, along the lines of socializing, INTPs also have great qualities that make them able to make great conversations once they get out there and start talking. For example:

With a well-developed understanding of their environment and the ability to act very quickly, they may good athletes.

They're typically able to communicate their ideas more concisely than the average INTP without sacrificing accuracy.

They understand the benefits of close relationships, and understand how to support and enhance these relationships.

They see the value of principles that are not strictly logical

They have attractive and compelling personalities, and are well-liked and accepted by most people.

http://www.personalitypage.com/INTP_per.html

All of these are qualities that INTPs have if they develop their extraverted intuition. They all make for a fascinating INTP and great conversation, which makes for great socializing.

 

[Wisp]

Hmmm... I sense ... lots of grammatical errors... Anyways, those qualities strike me as very big maybes...

 

[Ermine]

Huh? What? Grammatical errors? Prove it! Identify them. I don't make grammatical errors! Preposterous. I never make a fool out of me.... sometimes.

 

[mindovermatter]

re home school- i hated school from day one until i quit halfway through my senior year. didn't have a lot of friends because i wasn't interested in name brand clothes (not that we could afford them anyway), or all the other stuff the popular girls wanted to chat incessantly about. home schooling would have been great for me- it was torture to have to listen to kids read out loud at the rate of 2 words a minute (slight exaggeration), i would twist in my seat wanting to scream out the words. i used to think i was just lazy- daydreamed a lot, never studied and still always passed- but now i realize i was just so totally bored. my science teacher couldn't spell or pronounce anything right and i felt i could better teach the class than she- wanted so bad to call her on it. since i was a social nobody at public school, i would have done fine at home- don't think i would have missed socializing one bit. my sis home schools her 12 yr. old- he began with h.s. in kindergarten and first grade- went to public school and was advanced a grade. he hated it and was also bored. after 2 years he went back to h.s.- tests at post high levels on nearly every subject. he does have friends although he has a hard time making new ones because of his obsession with invention and playing g-mod- when he starts the tech talk to new people they don't have a clue what he's saying (neither do i). plus he gets plenty of socialization with extra curricular programs.

*please excuse the lack of capitalization- it seems like a waste of effort and i have short chunky fingers

 

[Ermine]

It all depends on the quality of the public school. My home school is a high quality school with state of the art technology and great teachers. I'll be fine, even though most of the students are annoyingly rich preps that waste their money away like it was nothing.

Then this year, I started going to a really substandard public high school (part time) that was pathetic in comparison. I only went for the really good art program, though I have to take math and history there too. It wasn't just the product of a low budget, because the teachers were bad too. My HONORS history teacher that happened to be the DEPARTMENT CHAIR of history was a pathetic excuse for a teacher. I always have to correct him. I would usually try to keep my mouth shut, but he was making grievous mistakes by saying the Axis powers were "kind of" the bad guys and that Nationalism and Communism are the same thing. And he can't spell Mein Kampf to save his life. If that school were the school for my district, I'd definitely do homeschool.

 

[Wisp]

I agree. My school *thankfully* has decent teachers, but I still don't like 90% of the populace. I learn stuff, and the curriculum is high enough that I'm challenged, tthough I kinda get the feeling that by my senior year, it'll be less of an academic challenge, and more of an organizational challenge, which will be interesting... blech.

Oh, and Fernando, the grammar that issued me was in what you quoted, not what you actually wrote...

 

[Cabbo Pearimo]

I checked it out, Wisp. Even there, no gramaticall errors. A little fragtmented, but that's fine.

 

[Wisp]

That's what I meant. It's fragmented, and has occasional missing words...

For example,

"With a well-developed understanding of their environment and the ability to act very quickly, they may good athletes."

Not complete.

It should read
"May be good"

or
"May make good"

EDIT: Also, I'm sorry, I was a little out of line, I was feeling a little gramatically ornery, looking over it again, I don't see anything other than what I used as an example... The disadvantages of posting while tired manifest yet again...

 

[Cabbo Pearimo]

ah, yeah. Spot on.

 

[Wisp]

What's spot on?

 

[Cabbo Pearimo]

your gramatical assesment.

 

[Ermine]

That's what I meant. It's fragmented, and has occasional missing words...

For example,

"With a well-developed understanding of their environment and the ability to act very quickly, they may good athletes."

Not complete.

It should read
"May be good"

or
"May make good"

EDIT: Also, I'm sorry, I was a little out of line, I was feeling a little gramatically ornery, looking over it again, I don't see anything other than what I used as an example... The disadvantages of posting while tired manifest yet again...

Oh, that's all right. I probably would have done the same thing if it weren't for these silly pleasantries that most people use called manners. lol

Bad grammar and spelling get on my nerves too.

 

[Wisp]

Ah, but who am I to expect good grammar and spelling in a forum...