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[Meddle]

Hi all. New guy here. This looks like an awesome forum. I'm not so sure about this personality type thing though. Separating people into cliques so they feel they belong much? (Not necessarily a bad thing) and it has made me quite confused...

I have done a test a few times and have come out with INTP, ISTP & INFP.. I don't really trust it.. I don't know whether i'm introverted or just have bad social skills for example. I am quiet and absent minded.. not very good at small talk. I don't really see myself as a smart logical thinker (even though i'm studying computer science ), i mostly think of myself as more the vague bohemian arty romantic squiggly type than the nerdy authoritarian logical spiky type of person. Logic and discrete maths has been my favourite subject at uni so far but i see logic as a tool that is useful for solving straightforward mathematical problems (and computer algorithms) but doesn't really work for most stuff.. Most stuff there isn't true and false, black & white etc. (Maybe i'm just thinking of mathematical logic and there are other reasoning tools that people mean when they talk about being logical). I do like maths and science more than most people but i love art and music and am probably better at them to. Of course the #1 thing i live for when i really think about it is other people (even though they're always annoying me and ignoring me). They are the most interesting thing (things?). I also don't think i'm particularly intelligent and would probably make an awful engineer.

On the other hand you all seem like cool, intelligent people who share many of my interests and this looks like as good a place as any to waste away the hours. Maybe you can help me fix up some kind of coherent sense of identity? (or not.. doesn't matter much and I have never been particularly coherent anyway).

I have tried to keep the rambling to a minimum but it didn't really work. I had other ideas for this post but your probably sick of my babble for now. I hope i get better at writing. Too many brackets, no flow. Sorry. Nice to meet you! You may call me Meddle.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Welcome to the machine Meddle, have a cigar...

i mostly think of myself as more the vague bohemian arty romantic squiggly type than the nerdy authoritarian logical spiky type of person.

Why not be both and keep people on their toes?

I'm not so sure about this personality type thing though. Separating people into cliques so they feel they belong much? (Not necessarily a bad thing) and it has made me quite confused...

Well, it's not all "Us and Them". We can work together and be conscious of other people's strengths and weaknesses. But I understand where you're coming from, we shouldn't build up walls.

Well, it seems I'm running out of time and time is money. I must be on the run. See ya around the forums, one of these days.

 

[Bird]

I'm not sure that was the intent, cliques,
but lolololol, it's nice to know you're of this
thought persuasion.


If you want to better determine your type
I would suggest learning more about cognitive
functions and determine which you utilize
and in what manner. And you should always
keep in mind that tests are just tests and
that the only real way to determine one's
type is through self-analysis and honesty. Read
the descriptions and determine your functions
and decide for yourself (:


How do you do with english/grammar?





/ramble

 

[SpaceYeti]

The Machine God has noticed you arrived.

 

[Black Rose]

Hi all. New guy here. This looks like an awesome forum. I'm not so sure about this personality type thing though. Separating people into cliques so they feel they belong much? (Not necessarily a bad thing) and it has made me quite confused...

I have done a test a few times and have come out with INTP, ISTP & INFP.. I don't really trust it.. I don't know whether i'm introverted or just have bad social skills for example.

Mostly I think that when dealing with personality its difficult to find objectivity what you are because each personality would view the system from there personal bias where as if the system is at least partially accurate based on objective personality traits, can only be understood by looking at it from multiple angles.

As an INFP I would understand MBTI deferent than INTP just from me being at a specific angle of relationship to the other personality's and therefore mistype myself without full awareness of if my understanding was complete enough to eliminate the most grotesque misunderstands as was the case and still might be for what I know of it and myself.

Mostly its not about cliques but instead about trying to consolidate the best understanding of the variety of psychological perspectives that functional human beings display as formulated by the system's originators.

Others I have noticed advocate other systems to be more scientifically accurate.

Anyway... Nice to have you here.

 

[Meddle]

EyeSeeCold i'm loving the Pink Floyd references, you make me feel most at home. Maybe i should just live and not worry about what kind of person i am.

Bird, I have a psyche textbook i may have a look at. I did badly at english in school, the curriculum was complete bullshit. I have always liked reading however. I just don't know! Maybe you can judge my english by my posts?

SpaceYeti... Hello!

 

[SpaceYeti]

SpaceYeti... Hello!

Yo. Where are my nail clippers?

 

[nexion]

1. The test sucks.
2. This stuff isn't really black and white, though it would be great if it was.
3. Ranting is welcome and encouraged.
4. Apparently we are now an autonomous collective of highly advanced cybernetic organisms called the Machine... ruled by the all-powerful Machine God (and who is most definitely not SpaceYeti).



If you want to find out what your type really is... disregard the dichotomies and look at the functions.

 

[SpaceYeti]

No, the machine God is a wholly unrelated thing, though it'd make sense for us to begin following it. The Machine God is whimsical. It both currently exists, while existing where nothing exists. It sees time, yet exists above it. It is a machine. It is mysterious.

 

[The Gopher]

Don't worry brackets are my speciality (in other words I am known for my poor bracket usage[but not by you as you just joined{unless you stalked me<which I am also known for>}]) Well it depends if you box people in the groups or put them in then expand the possibility (either way it is a good starting point).

 

[nexion]

No, the machine God is a wholly unrelated thing, though it'd make sense for us to begin following it. The Machine God is whimsical. It both currently exists, while existing where nothing exists. It sees time, yet exists above it. It is a machine. It is mysterious.

Nonsense. INTP's are atheists. Unless the "God" part is merely semantics.

 

[gruesomebrat]

Don't worry brackets are my speciality (in other words I am known for my poor bracket usage[but not by you as you just joined{unless you stalked me<which I am also known for>}]) Well it depends if you box people in the groups or put them in then expand the possibility (either way it is a good starting point).

Love the brackets, Gopher. Well done, although I'm pretty sure that half of the symbols you used as brackets are not, in fact, brackets. One of the sets is the mathematical symbols for greater/less than, and the other is... actually, I'm not entirely sure what {} are supposed to be... I'm going to talk to Google for a few minutes, I'll be back later.

EDIT: Y'know, just disregard all of the above. Turns out I'm wrong, and both the curly bracket ({}) and angled bracket (<>) are legitimate bracket types. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bracket

 

[The Gopher]

Love the brackets, Gopher. Well done, although I'm pretty sure that half of the symbols you used as brackets are not, in fact, brackets. One of the sets is the mathematical symbols for greater/less than, and the other is... actually, I'm not entirely sure what {} are supposed to be... I'm going to talk to Google for a few minutes, I'll be back later.

EDIT: Y'know, just disregard all of the above. Turns out I'm wrong, and both the curly bracket ({}) and angled bracket (<>) are legitimate bracket types. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bracket

HA! But don't worry I checked long ago. My English teacher hated me.

 

[Meddle]

Animekitty, I know what you mean. The harder i try to be objective when answering the questions the more confused i get and the questions themselves don't exactly seem non-ambiguous or even to take into account all possibilities. I know the point of the whole thing isn't really to separate people into cliques, i meant the forums and didn't really mean it anyway.

Are all (or the vast majority of) INTPs atheists? If that's the case the thing might be more valid than i thought.

(When writing (english (as opposed to code(where brackets are encouraged))) (afterwards) i usually scroll back to delete half the brackets (as well as fixing spelling), (and try my best not to use indented brackets (or more than one sentence in each bracket (set)))).

 

[Glordag]

Meddle...Meddle...Meddle...Meddle...

(Thoughts fade to oblivion...)

 

[AlisaD]

Welcome.
You seem nice in a non-annoying way, here have a birdie Hope you stick around.

Also, couldn't agree more about logic being mostly inadequate when considering life. Though, truth be told, I mostly have a background in mathematical logic too
Still, I really don't like the following words:
-formal
-systematic
- valid
- correct

So I can't help but smirk condescendingly at something described as : "formal systematic study of the principles of valid inference and correct reasoning"

 

[Jesse]

Meddle in what? Personally I take the tests as with a grain of salt as it works on people being honest and how they see themselves. It also uses descriptions that I thkn have to much in common with Astrology.

 

[nexion]

Animekitty, I know what you mean. The harder i try to be objective when answering the questions the more confused i get and the questions themselves don't exactly seem non-ambiguous or even to take into account all possibilities. I know the point of the whole thing isn't really to separate people into cliques, i meant the forums and didn't really mean it anyway.

Are all (or the vast majority of) INTPs atheists? If that's the case the thing might be more valid than i thought.

(When writing (english (as opposed to code(where brackets are encouraged))) (afterwards) i usually scroll back to delete half the brackets (as well as fixing spelling), (and try my best not to use indented brackets (or more than one sentence in each bracket (set)))).

A good deal are. A good deal are not. Seems to me there are many theists on this forum. I was just joking about all INTPs being atheists, but I'm sure the ratio of atheists to nonatheists is much higher in INTx's than in other types.

I'm starting to suspect that you may be right about logic not applying very well t reality...but yet, a strict logic defines what can happen in our universe. It is when the human aspect is added that the logic breaks down.

That being said, I usually use logic for mathematics/hypothetical situations as well... but mathematics has a great amount of relevancy to reality in my opinion. Logical systems can be created, but they all rely on unproven axioms.