Hacking Covid

[nanook]

We need a dedicated thread for stuff that can save lives. The other thread is about saving your money and stuff.

We can use this thread to discuss facts of hygiene as much as medicine.

So you want drugs, i have drugs.

Selenium seems relevant to virus proliferation as well, Serac.

Dietary Selenium in Adjuvant Therapy of Viral and Bacterial Infections

Viral and bacterial infections are often associated with deficiencies in macronutrients and micronutrients, including the essential trace element selenium. In selenium deficiency, benign strains of Coxsackie and influenza viruses can mutate to highly ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Thanks for pointing out about zinc before, Serac. Did you link to medmastery? cant remember. It's nicely done video that shows the virus in action, if we can believe that. It discusses zinc and the proposed corona medicine chloroquine.

You did link to that study about zinc.


Other things to keep in mind: protecting infected lungs from collateral damage of immune action. This is what kills people.

B3/niacin is associated with less damage from lung related sepsis.
Vitamin c comes up again and again.

The body's own antioxidant glutathion protects the lungs. The recylcing of it depends on selenium, zinc and vitamin c.


A good dietary source of selenium is brazil nuts and zinc is generally more easy to get from WFPB.

Btw, radical caloric deficits, such as 400kcal of protein stuff is associated with worse virus outcome/more proliferation. I speak with studies in mind. Can't fetch all the links. You would need to eat at least 1300kcal of WFPB, low caloric density stuff, lentils, broccoli, carrots, fruit, to get all the nutrients an i hope to demostrate, why the nutrients matter to virus proliferation.

But first. More about drugs.

Interferon (consuming some garlic raises it) and beta-glucans (2tsp deactivated nutritional yeast flakes or 1 can mushrooms) may boost immune system beforehand, so it can respond to infections more rapidly. If your already sick it may be too late and counterproductive, not entirely sure tho, maybe you know.

Vitamin D is associated with raising immunity but i haven't personally seen the science about how it interferes with acute infection. It's been highly beneficial with taking out chronic low levels infections. I megadose currently and it seems to make me feel good. Magnesiusm is a relevant cofactor here. You can dump a large amount of D into your fat tissues, it will be released more slowly.


Basically, you can never be reductionist. You need all the drugs you can buy, lol. The body needs to have all strings pulled together to come to live and optimum self healing powers. You just need to know about the individual nutrients to realize, that your lifestyle is deficient and that you wont be able to stand up to crisis. You are the risk group, so take care. 30% lung damage after recovery and long term damages from hospital treatment with antibiotics (chronic infections causing rheuma, etc) doesn't make you any younger.

Now for the fun part.

My understanding is this (and its picked up intuitively from different sources and may not be accurate)

Its normal for viruses to mutate and therefore normal for vaccines to be ineffective by the time they are published, but mutation is not all bad.

The reason they mutate is not hostile evolutionary intent and cleverness. Killing the host has zero evolutionary benefits for a virus, if it has intrinsic evolutionary intelligence at all. I think these mutations that are associated with much damage are mainly random accidents.

And since the viruses are not coming from humans, they don't replicate as well in humans. Therefore they deteriorate by mutation/accident, become less infectious from replication to replication and over time, which is why these waves of animal viruses ebb off in human populations after a while. So: low population density or more quarantine, less frequent infections, more time for faulty replication in between, more deterioration of the virus, less efficient infections, a smaller wave of total infections. Is not just herd immunity that stops the wave. Or at least immunity is not only about immune cells but also has to do, with how much our cells can resist to replicating this animal or microbe born DNA/RNA crap, that does not serve our cells.
Unfortunately this crap causes more damage, while replicating in humans. In contrast, it's operation in animals, such as bats may even serve some strange benefit. They keep replicating the material but it doesn't seem to wipe out their populations.


Perhaps one should not immediately infect all young people with artificially replicated viruses in the laboratory (some freaks have proposed this strategy), which are therefore absolutely identical and will therefore develop completely differently than natural infections would develop from person to person, each time causing an accidental damage to the Virus would be involved.

Under natural circumstances, both the immune system and the replication mechanism of a wide range of different viral material of a virus family would be confronted.

Now i am just getting started.


It does not seem implausible to me that the evolutionary reason for the constant replication of native viruses (as in human influenza and bat corona) may have to do with overpopulation.

It could be, for example, that metabolic products, e.g. enzymes, which are only incompletely matured due to a nutrient deficit, such as zinc or selenium, do not fulfill their ideal function and accumulate in the body, and that cells with certain RNA changes / mutations are still able to make use of such a "manure" (achieve proliferation, utilizing them), even if the resulting cell is ugly and kinda kills the host.

This would mean that such changed cells, or the changes themselves, multiply when a population is starving and the population is reduced so much by sudden death that the food is again sufficient for everyone.
Now all you have to do is give a real name to the RNA change in these cells, such as Virus (V is for Vicious / Change) and the murderous bogeyman is perfect. But despite being a highly subjective concept, it really does exist. Without this RNA mutation, malnutrition would have some other consequences. It would probably damage the whole genome, if deficient individuals were to survive and reproduce, which could lead to the devolution of the whole species. A species without a such lethal viral RNA mutations would therefore disappear through devolution. All species that exist after countless ages of evolution coexist with some viral phenomena.


With this consideration I do not propagate any idea of an overpopulation of humanity. At most, I take nutritional deficiency into account, related to silly food industry practice. Besides, it's just an example. I'm just questioning our idea of what viruses are. We generally talk about them as if they were living microbes and show photos of infected cells. As far as I know, it's our own cells, with a junk RNA building block. We have no idea how many such building blocks there are. What makes one of them go viral? It seems to me a question of quality.


I thought it would be funny to frame this as "hacking" because this message board doesn't have a health and biology section. To me, this is also a bit of social hacking. Commercial interests block the acceptance of truth by polluting the world with silly prejudices, such as 'masks don't work, don't bother'.
As you may know i have leukemia and i intend to survive this and any further flu waves.
I am engaged to publish what i learn, for other people with my disease, who have less time to research stuff.
I also live with my 80yr old father and tho we are not very close, i would hope to give him ideal advice as well.

 

[crippli]

I also live with my 80yr old father and tho we are not very close, i would hope to give him ideal advice as well.

Isolaton. X10. You did super research. And it will help. But the best is to isolate. Move if necessary. Now germany has 30000 respirators. Compared to very few to rest of europe. But hacking covid-19. That is definetly out of my league. I have only planned to stay clear.

 

[Yellow]

I'm currently working in a health center so I've no choice but to consume the COVID updates every day.

Safety tips:

Isolation is super important. You can't get sick if you're not exposed. Typically, it's 5 days from exposure to first symptoms, and around day 9, it gets serious. So if you've been isolating for a week or so and feel fine, you're probably good.

Proper masks, if fitted, along with gloves, goggles, and immediately washing exposed clothes (all properly donned and doffed), are supposed to help. The medical professionals I know have some doubts on this point, on account of the number of trained ER staff who have been infected. There's a sewing pattern going around the internet that's supposed to go over the N95 mask, so you can reuse your mask. It's probably better than nothing if supplies are low.

The virus can linger in the air for about 3 hours. On paper surfaces about 24 hours, on plastic or steel for about 2-3 days. Copper only 4 hours. Copper is corrosive, which gives it anti-microbial qualities.

Soap truly helps. This virus has a lipid outer layer, so soap and water (asssuming proper washing techniques) really can remove it from your skin and from surfaces.

If using heavy antimicrobial products, remember that the surface you're cleaning needs to stay wet for 1-3 minutes (depending on the solution) to actually kill things. And don't handle said products with bare hands because they damage your skin.

I'm hearing some chatter about ibuprofen doing more harm than good for infected people. I'm not sure if it's been confirmed or debunked.

Background info:

Disease is a natural check for over-dense populations. That's why isolation helps.

A few things to keep in mind about viruses.
1) They're very small. So small that the vast majority only affect bacteria. Viruses are several magnitudes smaller than bactria cells and bactria cells are much, much smaller than eukaryotic cells (cells with organelles in them that can support multicellular life).
2) They function more like machines than like living things. They can't reproduce, they build.
3) Because of the above limitations, viruses that affect eukaryotic cells rarely jump species.

Like you were saying, @nanook, viruses that are most successful are ones that are highly contagious and either slow to kill you or non-fatal. Like herpes. Over time, most viruses become decreasingly fatal or much slower in killing you. Think about HIV. At first, it was killing people in a matter of months. Now, even without treatment, it can take a decade. With treatment, its just a chronic illness.

So this version of coronavirus, if we're assuming it came from bats who are largely unaffected by the virus, it's safe to assume the virus has adapted to their cellular physiology.

If the human population to which the virus jumped was a small village 30 miles from the next village (and so on), and there wasn't constant travel in between, it would probably be as benign to us as the bats before it spread throughout all the human populations, that is assuming it was contagious enough to spread everywhere at all.

But since we're all huddled together in city after city with planes, trains, and automobiles to get us from hub to hub, it's hitting us hard.

 

[nanook]

The ibuprofen theory that is discussed right now, is that taking it (and i believe similar drugs, non steroidal inflammatory) regularly grows these receptor sites, which are used by the virus to enter healthy cells.

These receptor sites are also grown by smoking. I heard that chinese people smoke allot and in Italy they supposedly love over the counter ibuprofen. So i don't know if having more means that more viral RNA can enter into a single cell and accomplish replication or if it only means, that the virus would come around to find a vulnerable cell more quickly.

Ibuprofen blocks cell regeneration by blocking enzymes called cox1 and 2. this is why you get holes in your gut, if you take it regularly. your cut cant recylcle itself when its worn down, which happens naturally. ibuprofen also decreases platelet aggregation which means you are more likely to bleed in the case of injury. Duh. Just say no, kids.

There can be some debate over whether a single dose of IBU would do any harm.
Generally you don*t want to suppress fever, if at all possible, because its an immune reaction.
But if it totally gets out of hand, maybe worth a shot? I don't know.
Given my leukemia (possible thrombocytopenia), i would say rather not for me.

 

[nanook]

This study suggests that VitaminD deficiency is associated with worse out come in this kind of lung infection.

Vitamin D deficiency contributes directly to the acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS) - PubMed

UKCRN ID 11994.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

This person explains why this may be so

Earlyer in the video she discusses how to dose vitamin D, if you never had it.

 

[nanook]

A little bit of porn. Tickle all the strings. No reductionism. Everything works together.

A Review of Micronutrients and the Immune System–Working in Harmony to Reduce the Risk of Infection

Immune support by micronutrients is historically based on vitamin C deficiency and supplementation in scurvy in early times. It has since been established that the complex, integrated immune system needs multiple specific micronutrients, including vitamins A, D, C, E, B6, and B12, folate, zinc...

bit.ly

What i notice is missing on the map: thyroid hormones, thus iodine. Thyroid also needs Selenium.

 

[nanook]

The virus changes size and thus properties, depending on its state of hydration.



Normal breathing and talking, not just coughing, causes aerosol spread of infection.

Aerosol meaning super fine droplets, that can float or perhaps even be sucked around the corners of a loosely fitting mask, and be sucked deep into someone's lung, where they need to go, to spread lung infection.

I think wearing the mask in public makes sense, because people kind of raise their voice, when communicating, whenever they keep a larger distance, because shopping malls are noisy places.

But this airstream that is blown from a distance is least likely to find its way around the corner of a mask. Certainly most unlikely, if the shouting person wears a mask. The viral material will stick to the mask and the air won't ever travel the distance.

The stickiness of this material is the good news.

In contrast, viral material that has descended upon surfaces for a bit has become more dehydrated and is most sticky and is therefore unlikely to cause infection, not only because it deteriorates quickly, but because it's usually not delivered into the body.

If you touch your nose with infected fingers, this is rather unlikely to cause infection, because this sticky material unlikely to sail deep into the mucus area of the airways. Just don't pull stuff out of your teeth with bare hands.

But there is the object to hand to food to mouth path.

Another path is the shaking up of contaminated clothing. The strong wind passing though shaked up textile fibers may blow some infected material into the air, allowing it to be breathed in.

This is likely involved in how people in hospitals get infected, in their wardrobe, which is covered in viral material.

On slick surfaces, the material is not sticky. Normal air can blow it up.

The floor of public toilets or small entry passages to shops may be filled with this dehydrated, dusty version, because these are places where people love to cough in private.

A cloud may jump at you, from the floor, when you walk over it.
Also if you drop something ordinary into a public toilet, a cloud is likely to come up.

Some of that stuff is already broken and can't infect us any more.
But some can, as seems implied by how medics get infected all of the time.

Also dry air may decrease size and when the weather is right a breathing cloud may travel larger distances than expected. When i jog, i often run through the smelly breath of a smoker. Therefore I put on mask, when i pass by a jogger.

 

[nanook]

Farming Animals means breeding viruses that can wipe out humanity. The unnatural conditions of animal farms can breed viruses, that kill most hosts in little time, because animals stand, live and die right next to each other. Animals are forced to breathe in the microbes from their poop and viruses, that were originally replicated by those microbes in poop, will eventually also be replicated by the lungs of animals. Those are likely to be replicable by human lungs. Perhaps its similar with corona bats. Viruses may be harmless to bats, if they didn't affect their lungs at all, but exist in the microbiome of their gut. Also bats who can fly, can work up high body temperatures, which may be protective, but bats in dirty cage's can't.

 

[nanook]

There is nothing that weakens our immune system as much as anger. When i get really angry, i often get a herpes outbreak right away. No amount of vitamins can protect against this effect. I got angry again, yesterday, when once again the media was lying, pretending that Masks are no protection against the Virus. The more evidence to the contrary is published, the more nonchalantly they will lie about it. And now i have herpes. Guess how i feel half of the time, when some fucking group think nazis laugh at me, because i wear a mask outside.

Do DIY Cloth Masks Protect Us From COVID-19? – Smart Air

Researchers built DIY masks from household materials and tested their effectiveness vs. sub-micron particles. Results found they blocked 60% of particles.

smartairfilters.com

 

[nanook]

Ivermectin - Inhibiting SARS-CoV-2 replication, likely through inhibiting IMPα/β1-mediated nuclear import of viral proteins, as shown for other RNA viruses. https://bit.ly/3aFi77H

FDA-approved broad spectrum anti-parasitic agent with established safety profile for human use. High dose has comparable safety as the standard low-dose treatment.

In vitro, cells were dosed 2 hours after infection. At 24 h, there was a 93% reduction in viral RNA present. Similarly a 99.8% reduction in cell-associated viral RNA was observed. By 48h this effect increased to an ∼5000-fold reduction of viral RNA in ivermectin-treated compared to control samples, indicating that ivermectin treatment resulted in the effective loss of essentially all viral material by 48 h. Consistent with this idea, no further reduction in viral RNA was observed at 72 h. No toxicity of ivermectin was observed at any of the timepoints tested, in either the sample wells or in parallel tested drug alone samples.

It's not yet know what dose is effective in corona in real people.
There is limited experience with dosing in people with denuge fever.
More than a single dose is needed.

Another medicine that addresses replication directly is called Remdesivir. I don't know the safety profile.

 

[a_ghost_from_your_past]

You're making this all too complicated.
EVERY 40% alcoholic beverage widely sold for (2.99-4.99) is an adequate disinfactant.
Putting a cloth in front of your mouth and nose, which you wash regularly above 60° combined with the vast majority of available glasses is efficient.
That's it.

 

[Rebis]

You're making this all too complicated.
EVERY 40% alcoholic beverage widely sold for (2.99-4.99) is an adequate disinfactant.
Putting a cloth in front of your mouth and nose, which you wash regularly above 60° combined with the vast majority of available glasses is efficient.
That's it.

40% alcohol goes against the scientific literature, the general truth of 40% alcohol being a disinfectant doesn't apply to this specific context.

 

[a_ghost_from_your_past]

You're making this all too complicated.
EVERY 40% alcoholic beverage widely sold for (2.99-4.99) is an adequate disinfactant.
Putting a cloth in front of your mouth and nose, which you wash regularly above 60° combined with the vast majority of available glasses is efficient.
That's it.

40% alcohol goes against the scientific literature, the general truth of 40% alcohol being a disinfectant doesn't apply to this specific context.

All i hear is whining.

 

[Rebis]

Why are you trying to rile me? You know if you actually responded with some substance I'd give you a response but based on your antagonism I don't want to go near you with a 10 foot barge pole.

 

[Rebis]

Sitting in purgatory dwindling my thumbs since you've commented on literally anything so I can't bypass your flood of ideologues.

 

[a_ghost_from_your_past]

You're not concerned about the real statistics of the disease, all you are really expecting to be a very goody two shoes enforcing what the government has told you, whether it made sense or not

 

[Rebis]

That's not true and you have no way of confirming that.

I suppose you're a fascist nazi cocksucker that fucks corpses because you idolize the gruesome elements of psychopathy.

 

[Rebis]

I wonder if there'll ever be a blip of self-awareness in your rambling that will give you a moment to reflect on what you type.

 

[a_ghost_from_your_past]

Imagine my shock, not being able to perfectly depicture the falsity of mimicry burgeois AFD politics.

 

[a_ghost_from_your_past]

Suck the imperial chancellor's tits, you swine.

 

[a_ghost_from_your_past]

PROPAGANDA can easily be identified by serving GERMANY and NATO

 

[a_ghost_from_your_past]

GERMANY
PROPAGANDA
NATO

 

[gilliatt]

Is this coronavirus man-made or a metaphysical given. A metaphysical given, it cannot be changed. Man-made did not have to exist, but once made, does exist. Nothing made by man had to be:::it was made by choice. The metaphysical given cannot be true or false, it simply is...

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

You want easy hacks?

 

[byhisello99]

This study suggests that VitaminD deficiency is associated with worse out come in this kind of lung infection.

Vitamin D deficiency contributes directly to the acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS) - PubMed

UKCRN ID 11994.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

This person explains why this may be so

Earlyer in the video she discusses how to dose vitamin D, if you never had it.

The video was barred by YouTube because it "promises a cure based on herbs, supplements, vitamins, or other unproven and unscientific data," therefore, it is misinformation. You can see it here. YouTube is simply wrong.

Primary source of Vitamin D is sunlight absorbed through skin. The darker the skin, the less vitamin D is absorbed. Just maybe this isn't a "racist virus." Sunlight damages viruses, outdoors droplets are dispersed easily with just a slight breeze. The best way to transmit the virus is to lock people indoors where they must breathe in the virus, which has nowhere to go. Think about that for a while. We knew this before the first case of COVID-19. Outdoors i safer than indoors.

We also knew that respiratory viruses are most deadly to the elderly with chronic lung, kidney and/or heart disease, and the immune compromised. Why Governor Cuomo was surprised to learn that 60% of hospital admissions came from people locked indoors, and many thousands died because nursing homes were ordered to admit COVID-positive patients and allow COVID-positive employees to work, is a mystery.

Remdesivir appears to work, but is very expensive. China is working on a recombinant vaccine, modifying adenovirus to manufacture antibodies to COVID-19. As a vaccine it has many problems, starting with adenovirus causes disease itself. About fifty-plus varieties, many cause respiratory illness, some cause conjunctivitis, some cause high fever, others cause gastroenteritis, ALL target youngsters, which means broadening our profile of vulnerable populations. We need about another decade to understand adenoviruses as well as we understood corona viruses last November. Recombinant viruses are the wet dream of all biowrfare enthusiasts. NOT WITHOUT A GUN TO MY HEAD.

The disease appears to trigger an over-reaction from the immune system. Antiphospholipid Antibody Syndrome is one such reaction, which causes many small clots to form. Ditto for vasculitis. Autoimmune hemolytic anemia prevents erhythrocytes from carrying their normal amount of oxygen, multiplying the effects of a cytokind storm (all of these are immune system over-reactions). What appears to be Kawasaki's Disease in young children is an autoimmune disorder. Hydroxychloroquine has been used for more than half a century to successfully mediate over-reactions of the immune system. How one can politicize a medication is beyond me. The list of side-effects is about the same as for aspirin, and is much shorter and less severe than typical birth control pills. A potential side effect needs only to have occurred once; literally hundreds of million of doses of hydroxychloroquine have been prescribed. Again, politicizing a medication is nonsense.

 

[nanook]

What raised a red flag for me was learning that covid has common features with AIDS. It has some normal features of flue like viruses and some HIV like ones, as if it is two viruses in one. My source for this is german.

This means the future vaccine may also have the same AIDS features. Because fuck all.

When someone "dies from aids", they really die from another infection and much later.
Because their immune system has been poisoned by those mysterious AIDS features.

This combination is very unusual and is the reason why there were speculations that the virus may originate from laboratory experiments with vaccines, targeting aids, if i remember correctly. That the virus may be an aids vaccine gone wild.

So when a vaccine like that, or a natural feature like that poisons the immune system and people die from other infections much later, like they do in the case of aids, the clinicians won't ever document this connection. They would have no clue.

Sounds wild? There is also the claim that influenza vaccine has caused higher deathrates from other infections, because, so the theory, it renders the immune system less efficient, albeit by another pathway than poisoning: real life influencia makes the immune system more powerful, because real life influenca is multi-facetted and so are the anitibodies to it - versatile - they can prevent other infections too. The vaccine on the other hand is primitive, and so are the antibodies to it. Those antibodies prove to be good enough to prevent real life influenza, but they can't prevent other infections, so those hit a vaccinated body unprepared.

These HIV like features seem to be, how the virus is seen and absorbed by host cells. Those extensions on the outside, which are the real viral material anyways. If it has various "features" it may be absorbed by various cells/receptors, i speculate.

Corona does seem to infect or "poison" monocytes, as far as i understand this. Monocytes are a part of the inate/inborn/primary immune system and they swim around in the blood. They seem to "choke" on the virus, have a hard time digesting it, and doing their job, which is normally to attract B-cells, via interferon, which will then examine the viral bits and initiate antigen production.

Perhaps i am getting the details wrong. But the bottom line is that interferon alarm isn't rung lound and early, as it would normally be, in the case of other infections, hitting upon monocytes. and so the incubation period can happen, wherein the virus seems to infect or rather affect the whole blood somehow, which is another story. And of course, it infects the lungs, eventually.

The incubation period is obviously the main opportunity to prevent infections and to save lives. Nobody seems to give a fuck about this.

But some people get hypoxia FIRST. Their oxygen-carrying blood cells seem to have a special vulnerability and Zach Bush (video below) speculates, that this is due to a cyanide like poisoning of their blood. the poison most likely originates from air pollution in certain areas. When the poison and the virus come together, as factors, affecting a person or their blood, oxygen transport is reduced. This is hypoxia. People get blue. The lungs fill with water, but not as a feature of lung infection. This is a response to hypoxia, according to Zach, if i recall correctly. I dont know if Zach knows what he talks about but he knows way more than me, so i wont judge.

I consider possibilities. - Including that he may be a professional disinfo figure like so many other americans, who invade the health scene and push worldviews, that end up being political agendas in disguise as if some political think tank tries to get people, who are afraid of dying from any disease, to vote for a certain party, that will certainly not save their lives.


Old people were infected by environmental poisons longer than anybody else and they have the least metabolism (no exercise) to clear poisons from their blood. I bet the personel in old people's homes open the windows daily to allow some fresh car fumes to enter the room.


I think that whenever they speak of overreactions or auto-immune reactions they are just being arrogant because they haven't detected, what the body really reacts to and positivists are schooled to think as if something doesn't exist until you have peer-reviewed the evidence that it does exist, which means they are utterly incapable of inventing progress and will only recreate past treatment, protocols=death counts.

Since after the incubation period the whole blood and often the whole lung is infected, the whole body will of course be targeted by an immense amount of immune reactions, called for by cytokines, who are just innocent messengers.
Never shoot the messenger.

Immune cells arent just detecting viruses or bacteria, they can also detect cell damages, including cancer, from poisoning. When they place antibodies on cells, that don't seem "infected" by a limited definition, those are not really healthy cells. In rheumatic arthritis or similar immune diseases, there are unknown poisons that are deforming cells and that is why the immune system creates inflammations (evoked by cytokines) to dissolve those deformed cells.

So in corona it seems that the virus makes the blood cells vulnerable and unknown poisons in the blood stream may now invade into or affect blood cells (perhaps replacing iron with something else?) and essentially destroy them and now the body will destroy those dysfunctional blood cells (probably in the spleen and liver or anywhere). You will probably get anemia, as in malaria.


Something-Chloroquine seems to have the side effect of bringing more zinc into cells and zinc seems protective against corona infection. Or perhaps i confuse two different drugs.


Immune suppressing drugs are poisons. Chloroquine is such a posion. It used to be chemotherapy. Never take a drug that suppresses your immune system! This makes money for some company because you die three days later, because now the virus can infect even more cells because the immune system doesn't knock it out, but by the time you are so infected, that knocking infected cells out would have killed you, you are dead anyways.

However they will give you this medication not only when you are about to die from full-on immune reaction, because you are already fully infected. They will give it to everyone, who is only halfway infected too. You get a fever? You need to be drugged. Never mind that fever is a healing fire. So now everyone will become fully infected and they will die. And now i see how that drug could be politicized. Because it seems that death counts can be politicized. And i think trump is easy to fool.


The only kinds of drugs that seem acceptable to me, by design are infection blocking drugs (like zinc perhaps) and immune-boosting drugs, like interferon.

But receptor blocking drugs are already very dangerous. People tend to die, because, as a result of using such medications (statins or a diabetes drug), they have grown too many such receptors. But i guess short term, it may be an option.

The key to immune-boosting drugs like interferon is using them as early as possible. By the time you are in hospital, its probably way too late. When monocytes choke on the virus, initially, there may be a chance of activating a better response with interferon. It's clear that you can raise interferon with garlic. Not sure if this will really prevent silent virus incubation tho. But garlic is a religion i can believe in. It's interesting that there is a world monopoly on interferon production and it is in Kuba. I think this is also a new development. Some cancer buddies of mine used to be able to mailorder it, some years ago, with a prescription probably. Now its only sent to hospitals, afaik.

Zach also argues that the seasonality of influence is not primarily because of sun light and vitamin D (which he does not disagree with however), but because of how the seasons affect the gas composition of the air. I don't quite memorize his explanation of that (also in the video).

In regards to vitamin D, the common argument against it is construed as follows. They define 25 nmol of vitamin d as being "good", compare this to "worse" levels such as nmol 15 and say levels make no difference in disease duration or infection frequency. They also say people just need 10 minutes in the sun to get "good" vd levels, meaning 25 or so but hey, "makes no difference". No shit, but 25 is deficient and so is 30. You need a month of being fully naked all day long in may or june or so to get a proper immune boost from vitamin D. You want more like nmol 60 in serum. 100 is possible. If you cant be naked or you want protection in spring and winter, you need to supplement. But to avoid calcium poisoning, you need to supplement k2 along with vd and you can't have a high calcium (dairy) diet.

But when what kills people is hypoxia from a combo of air poisoning and infection, plus excessive infection due to overexpression of receptors, as a result of statin or diabetes drugs, than those most vulnerable people may get very sick, despite having a strong immune system.

Vice versa, ppl with weak immune systems may not actually get very sick if they have no vulnerability. I suspect this is what is really happening.

I believe in strengthening the innate (primary) immune system.

As opposed to the adaptive (secondary) immune system, which comes way too late anyways, when interferon is blocked, it does matter, if you have antibodies or not, they are not activated). I mean vaccines would be an example of strengthening the adaptive immune system. And vitamin D and interferon/garlic and zinc and other nutrients would be an example of strengthening the innate system.

I have a hard time believing in vaccines, also, because i think a virus is mutating way too fast. In order to stabilize, a virus has to be relatively harmless to people. Such as aids perhaps or a leukemia virus. You live for another six years, in the case of many leukemias.

Evolution stabilizes only while it works i neat cycles.

Evolution happens inside of our cells, our DNA replication, not inside of "the virus". The virus is processed. The viral RNA is being changed by our cells when it becomes a problem, that be expressed as friction and damage, because that friction, that is deranging our cells, is also changing the viral material in the process. A bad virus must change by pure accident.

This is no solid prejudice but all science starts with a hypothesis. I will always learn a new thing. But history with influence seems to confirm that vaccines don't work for this reason.

Zach speaks of the humongous mountains of pig shit, that are being stored, for legal reason. He reminds us that viruses are normally evolved also by bacteria, so they evolve outside of us, outside of the season, when nobody is infected. Some of those can be processed by some human cells, some can't.

The immune system is often the first to get infected by new viral material because its specialized to absorb everything strange. A virus does not infect. It is consumed. It looks like food, to the receptors of cells. It's like a bag of french fries. The fries are the real deal. The bag is for transportation. Cells eat the fries, replicate them, bag them again. That's how i see it anyways. Im no virologist, obviously.

 

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What raised a red flag for me was learning that covid has common features with AIDS. It has some normal features of flue like viruses and some HIV like ones, as if it is two viruses in one. My source for this is german.

Please cite the source. I did medical school in Germany and read the language. Corona viruses are a separate family from influenza viruses, although most have common effects. The third virus family with these effects is rhinoviruses. Some adenoviruses also commonly cause respiratory infections. HIV acts very differently from all four of those virus families.

This means the future vaccine may also have the same AIDS features. Because fuck all.

I cannot dispute this without the citation. I know of nothing that would cause a vaccine that is not a recombinant one to attack Helper T-Cells or T-cells.

When someone "dies from aids", they really die from another infection and much later.
Because their immune system has been poisoned by those mysterious AIDS features.

This combination is very unusual and is the reason why there were speculations that the virus may originate from laboratory experiments with vaccines, targeting aids, if i remember correctly. That the virus may be an aids vaccine gone wild.

The COVID-19 genome is known and is consistent with a natural evolution of the virus. It shows no "fingerprints" of human engineering. You are correct that few people die from AIDS, they die from one of the diseases that take the opportunity to strike. But, that's not unusual. People don't usually die from influenza, they may die of sepsis due to an opportunistic bacterial infection, or from pneumonia, or from other illnesses brought on by influenza.

You need a month of being fully naked all day long in may or june or so to get a proper immune boost from vitamin D.

Going outdoors is step one. Your information about thirty days of nudity is funny. Outdoors sunlight damages the virus, and wind blows about droplets. The vitamin D is a bonus. 2K-5K IUs of Vitamin D3 supplement daily should do the trick also. But, feel free to start a new nudist movement; just let the rest of us know when and where.

So in corona it seems that the virus makes the blood cells vulnerable and unknown poisons in the blood stream may now invade into or affect blood cells (perhaps replacing iron with something else?) and essentially destroy them and now the body will destroy those dysfunctional blood cells (probably in the spleen and liver or anywhere). You will probably get anemia, as in malaria.

Best mishmash I've read all day. There are many corona viruses, most do little harm. COVID-19 appears to spark a coagulation cascade which ties up erythrocytes in clots, reducing their ability to carry oxygen. It also seems to spark an immune system reaction that includes the cytokine storm, antiphospholipid antibody syndrome throwing off tiny clots, vasculitis doing the same, and autoimmune hemalytic anemia, reducing erythrocytes' ability to transport oxygen.

Evolution stabilizes only while it works i neat cycles.

Evolution occurs through random genetic mutations, and those that provide a survival advantage reproduce, those that do not, do not reproduce. It's really simple. Darwin 101.

Your post is largely speculation with little science. I'm not trying to show you up, and certainly don't want to shut you down. I want you and everybody else to raise questions. You've got maybe 20-25% value in your post, which for the internet deserves an A+. The science isn't real difficult, but it is complex.