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That link broke me brain :kodama1:
"Apagender– A feeling of apathy toward one’s gender that causes one to have no desire to look further into it."

"Apconsugender– A gender in which you know what it isn’t, but not what it is, sort of like the gender is hiding itself from you."

"Apogender– A subset of agender in which you feel not only genderless, but entirely removed from the concept of gender."

"Apollogender– When you have around 9 (can be anywhere from 6 to 10) different distinct feelings of gender that have combined into one big gender identity."

" Archaigender– A gender that is ancient/old and big, and can either only be described with those words, or is correlated to them."


Canisgender– A small, doglike gender.


Cassgender– Feeling as if the very concept of gender is unimportant to you.

Cavusgender– For people with depression. You feel one gender when not depressed and another when depressed. The gender felt whilst depressed can be attached as a suffix (eg cavusboy, cavusgirl, cavusnonbinary, cavusace).

Chaosgender– When your gender does a lot of things that have no identifiable pattern or logic.

Felisgender– A small, catlike gender.

Flowergender– A gender that is more strongly felt during the daytime than at night. Also known as diurnalgender.

Fuzzgender– When you know that you’re a certain gender, but can’t explain why you are that gender.

Genderale– A gender that is hard to describe. Mainly associated with plants, herbs, and liquids.

Genderflora– A gender that blooms and evolves based on the weather and atmosphere; similar to genderfluid but more plant-like.

Gendermaverick– A distinctly unorthodox (and non-binary) gender experience characterized by a self-determined and autonomous sense of anomalous disconnect and/or independence from traditional binary gender. Furthermore, gendermaverick is an identity undertaken/used with the intention of deliberate subversion of society’s sense of binary gender.

Genderpunk– A gender identity that actively resists gender norms. Is also a euphemistic form of genderf*ck.

Gendersea– Like gendervoid, but related to the ocean. A gender that is a vast sea of caverns and depths yet to be discovered. Made with otherkin related to the ocean or sea creatures in mind.

Nanogender– Feeling a small part one gender, with the rest being something else, ex. nanoboy, nanogirl, etc. The “something else” may or may not be known. Also known as nan0gender.

Nocturnalgender– A gender that feels more intense during the night, but weak/nonexistent when it is light out. Also known as batgender, owlgender, moongender.

Orbgender– A gender which feels round, without any edges.

Praegender– A god-like gender far outside beyond the normal cognizance of gender that is, omnipresent, not null, but other, and beyond mortality and time. For deity-kin and god-kin it can also represent a gender their deity/god self had in their past life before reincarnation.


Surgender– Having a gender which is 100% one gender with more on top of that of other gender(s).


Witchgender– A gender that has closeness or connection to witchcraft and magic. It has a feeling of power and magic to it.


I just...well...what?!?

I know this species has grown decadent, but this makes no damned sense...where...what are we!? Humans...humans...hmmmm...well...

*starts plotting impartial genocide*
 

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I love it. Everyone is a special snowflake and gets their personal gender. I couldn't find mine so I made one up :D

From now on I am imigendred. (Static gender but with a weak secondary made up personality that is another gender. Can temporarily assume the identity of made up entity and thus gender).

I also somewhat identify with
Ambonec– Identifying as both man and woman, yet neither at the same time.

Amaregender- A gender that changes depending on who you’re in love with.

Aliusgender– A gender which is removed from common gender descriptors and guidelines.

Angenital– A desire to be without primary sexual characteristics, without necessarily being genderless.

Apogender– A subset of agender in which you feel not only genderless, but entirely removed from the concept of gender.

Bigenderfluid– Being bigender, with your gender fluctuating between the two.

Cassgender– Feeling as if the very concept of gender is unimportant to you.

Cogitofluid– A gender that is fluid only when one thinks about it.

Cogitogender– A gender that only exists when you think about it, is quiet until called to attention, or is characterized as feeling genderless until a gender is consciously chosen.

Demigender– Feeling partially one gender, and partially something else, ex. demiboy, demigirl, etc. The “something else” may or may not be known.

Existigender– A gender which only exists or is noticeable when thought about or when a conscious effort is made to notice it.

Fissgender– A gender experience that is in some way split, similar to bigender or demigenders.
There probably are more that I missed and I probably misinterpreted some of these descriptions.

I found this list as a genuinely useful thing to have. I mean it makes it easier to pinpoint things, particularly if you aren't much for just accepting the "males are males and should act like stereotypical males" narrative and same for females.

Of course this is in reference to metaphorical gender identities and not biological. I want to say it doesn't matter, but it does have a subconscious psychological effect on how you act/think. The causes for this are likely both biological/sexual and cultural in nature.
 

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Surely this is some kind of joke?

*table-flip primed*
 

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Surely this is some kind of joke?

*table-flip primed*
No, I don't understand why you guys are so dismissive of this honestly. Think through it carefully and logically and then feel free to dismiss it with proper arguments instead of not even considering it and just going "hurr durr, it looks stupid". Really, I myself should take this piece of advice more often.
 

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I assume most of these are made by teenagers trying to find themselves and maybe trying to be different (or maybe them feeling different leads to them classifying themselves like this). Or so. I assume most of us have done or said weird things when we were young. It's just more visible now due to all the social medias, even when it's small group of people that holds certain opinions or values, sometimes making it seems more prevalent. There are also some adults that has felt alienated due to being different from gender expectations who finds interest in things like this.

I don't really have a problem with a small number of people talking about and finding enjoyment in this long list of genders. It's probably more of a short term fascination in trying to find something they relate to. Perhaps a similar psychological mechanism that attracts people to things like MBTI.

(Only talking about huge ass lists of gender types, in case that wasn't clear. I certainly think that issues of feeling trapped in the wrong gender etc exist)
 

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Assuming these are factual terms collected from wherever:

So canisgender and felisgender would follow the same neural pathways as furries?
And genderale...you feel as if your gender has to do with plants, herbs(which are plants) and liquids...?

I'm all for doing as you bloody hell please when it comes to gender, procreation and relationships, but many of these terms simply seem to fanciful to uphold a state of neural permanence...taking the guise of poetic constructs and psychological abstractions rather than actual indications of gender preference.

Gender might be more nuanced than sex, but I can not see how " A gender which feels round, without any edges" can be a constant state of identity within a human being.

Emotional states, yes, but not gender. Or has psychological definitions changed since I crawled into my cave?

{I know this is not really a serious issue, but I only want clarity as to how widespread this mode of thinking is within the minds of contemporary humans}
 

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No, I don't understand why you guys are so dismissive of this honestly. Think through it carefully and logically and then feel free to dismiss it with proper arguments instead of not even considering it and just going "hurr durr, it looks stupid".
Welcome to the forum. ;)

... yeah, at first glance, I feel a bit dismissive of the list as well (I'm not sure of the underlying foundation of many of the categories aside from imaginative brainstorming), but the OP certainly came across as more of a snipe at the topic versus a serious request for analysis...
 

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No, I don't understand why you guys are so dismissive of this honestly. Think through it carefully and logically and then feel free to dismiss it with proper arguments instead of not even considering it and just going "hurr durr, it looks stupid". Really, I myself should take this piece of advice more often.
It's pretty much like trying to solve equations by changing the fonts on the numbers.

What's good about a generation obsessing over "gender" to the point of absurdity? Just goes to show that the ideology is counter-productive, creating new conceptual shackles instead of facilitating liberation and autonomy. The whole point is that people should stop wasting time judging and trying to fit each other into boxes and just let each other be whatever they are so we can get to the real business. No stupid label can capture the essence of a human person. We are what we are. Each one is different.
 

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The post is satire.
 

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Anyone that demands my respect has immediately lost it.

To me that's what this is, nonsense that people are trying to demand respect for under the pretense that if I offend their oh-so-delicate sensibilities by calling it nonsense that I'm the bad guy, that I'm being intolerant, bigoted, closed-minded, etc. It's like religious people demanding that nobody questions their beliefs because it offends them, well too bad.

I'll question whatever I like, I wont salute the flag, I refuse to believe pushing a baby out makes someone a fountain of wisdom and if someone demands I respect their bullshit made up gender identity they'd better be autoincestous because they can go fuck themselves.
 

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It's pretty much like trying to solve equations by changing the fonts on the numbers.

What's good about a generation obsessing over "gender" to the point of absurdity? Just goes to show that the ideology is counter-productive, creating new conceptual shackles instead of facilitating liberation and autonomy. The whole point is that people should stop wasting time judging and trying to fit each other into boxes and just let each other be whatever they are so we can get to the real business.
Seteleechete said:
Of course this is in reference to metaphorical gender identities and not biological. I want to say it doesn't matter, but it does have a subconscious psychological effect on how you act/think. The causes for this are likely both biological/sexual and cultural in nature.
The problem with gender in particular is that it's so ingrained into us that it becomes a shackle in and of itself. Mostly placed on ourselves.

What I am trying to say is, it's already a naturally occurring "box" and making it bigger is facilitating liberation. On another note completely ignoring this, is also completely ignoring a part of self-reflection and results in learning less about oneself by just accepting "that's how things are". Self-reflection is also usually easier with feedback(which this facilitates).

No stupid label can capture the essence of a human person. We are what we are. Each one is different.
That's kinda why I like this kind of idea. Make so many labels that you can make a label for each individual. As humans we categorize people and widening the means of categorisation doesn't seem like a bad thing as you can make a better individual fit. Of course, the complicated words are maybe unnecessary as you only need the descriptions but they do add a certain authority to it that I find myself liking.



@Cognisant

I can't quite figure out what anything of this has to do with respect? It seems more closer aligned with acknowledgement than anything else "this is who I see myself as", i.e communicating something rather than asking. I mean sure you can go a step further and demand respect as well but that doesn't seem pertinent.

Though, I guess I can understand it being used as offensive tool as well, which would be annoying.

Going back to religion I see it as effectively saying "I am religious", not an offensive statement, a demand or a problem in and of itself.
 

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Sorry for my overly satire post, I'm fairly new to MBTI and having the label INTP. I am just curious how all of us think on these problems and it is very interesting.
 

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Just as fyi this forum really doesn't run on a collective sense of 'intp'. We're very much analytical, deconstructionist and generally for the lack of a better word, 'meta'. The social construct of this forum is more of a bilateral dialogue rather than a fluid messaging board. There is no 'us' here, but just 'being'. But you're welcome here :)
 

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Just as fyi this forum really doesn't run on a collective sense of 'intp'. We're very much analytical, deconstructionist and generally for the lack of a better word, 'meta'. The social construct of this forum is more of a bilateral dialogue rather than a fluid messaging board. There is no 'us' here, but just 'being'. But you're welcome here :)
Sounds good! Thank you for being welcoming I might just stick around. :) :)
 

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Expanding on gender is just dumb. There's man and woman and at all different points in time/circumstance I'd say almost everyone feels some kind of combination of them.

That doesn't make you 'amaregender' it just means you don't consider yourself strictly male/female. I don't know why this is so fucking complicated. By social convention some of the things I like a girly, others are manly - like pretty much every other human ever.

Not everything needs a fucking label. Plus I've actually never, once in my entire life run into someone who was offended by being called the wrong gender. Ever. The only people for whom this is a problem is transgender, and I'm sure they can just say, "I'm X not Y" and then that person will forever refer to them as X, no?

Unless they're just a fuckwit but then if they pick on that they were probably gonna pick on whatever they could anyway, gender was just the easiest. So fuck 'em.

I feel like this shit exists almost exclusively on blogs and websites where melodramatic fuckwits get together and exaggerate about the happenings in their day-to-day lives, and they do it on the internet because they're guaranteed to find SOMEONE who agrees with them there. If people just stopped giving these absolute retards the attention they so crave they'd probably disappear pretty quickly.
 

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Not everything needs a fucking label. Plus I've actually never, once in my entire life run into someone who was offended by being called the wrong gender. Ever. The only people for whom this is a problem is transgender, and I'm sure they can just say, "I'm X not Y" and then that person will forever refer to them as X, no?
Starry-eyed idealist, aintcha? ;)

Unless they're just a fuckwit but then if they pick on that they were probably gonna pick on whatever they could anyway, gender was just the easiest. So fuck 'em.
Not hard to do that, if one is not being socially undermined from all directions. There's a lot of relational and social judgment that accrues in this fucked-up world, that actually has an impact beyond just hurt feelings.

I feel like this shit exists almost exclusively on blogs and websites where melodramatic fuckwits get together and exaggerate about the happenings in their day-to-day lives, and they do it on the internet because they're guaranteed to find SOMEONE who agrees with them there. If people just stopped giving these absolute retards the attention they so crave they'd probably disappear pretty quickly.
Yeah, I do think the Internet has enabled this kind of obsessive analysis and theoretical categorization to develop and take a foothold... people who get caught up in cyclic thoughts that eventually detach from real life because you can actually sit there and spin yourself in solipsistic circles until you are far afield from anything attached to the external realm. If people could just engage in life a bit more and put up with the mess of dealing with each, give and take, then we could get out of our obsessive head cycles where we seek justification in the face of prickly society.

Sorry for my overly satire post, I'm fairly new to MBTI and having the label INTP. I am just curious how all of us think on these problems and it is very interesting.
No worries. Please post more of your thoughts about it. and welcome.
 

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Starry-eyed idealist, aintcha? ;)
Well maybe I'm wrong but I find it hard to believe there's some overwhelming surplus of people who deliberately fuck with people's gender pronouns just to be rude/obnoxious.
 

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That link broke me brain :kodama1:
"Apagender– A feeling of apathy toward one’s gender that causes one to have no desire to look further into it."

"Apconsugender– A gender in which you know what it isn’t, but not what it is, sort of like the gender is hiding itself from you."

"Apogender– A subset of agender in which you feel not only genderless, but entirely removed from the concept of gender."

"Apollogender– When you have around 9 (can be anywhere from 6 to 10) different distinct feelings of gender that have combined into one big gender identity."

" Archaigender– A gender that is ancient/old and big, and can either only be described with those words, or is correlated to them."


Canisgender– A small, doglike gender.


Cassgender– Feeling as if the very concept of gender is unimportant to you.

Cavusgender– For people with depression. You feel one gender when not depressed and another when depressed. The gender felt whilst depressed can be attached as a suffix (eg cavusboy, cavusgirl, cavusnonbinary, cavusace).

Chaosgender– When your gender does a lot of things that have no identifiable pattern or logic.

Felisgender– A small, catlike gender.

Flowergender– A gender that is more strongly felt during the daytime than at night. Also known as diurnalgender.

Fuzzgender– When you know that you’re a certain gender, but can’t explain why you are that gender.

Genderale– A gender that is hard to describe. Mainly associated with plants, herbs, and liquids.

Genderflora– A gender that blooms and evolves based on the weather and atmosphere; similar to genderfluid but more plant-like.

Gendermaverick– A distinctly unorthodox (and non-binary) gender experience characterized by a self-determined and autonomous sense of anomalous disconnect and/or independence from traditional binary gender. Furthermore, gendermaverick is an identity undertaken/used with the intention of deliberate subversion of society’s sense of binary gender.

Genderpunk– A gender identity that actively resists gender norms. Is also a euphemistic form of genderf*ck.

Gendersea– Like gendervoid, but related to the ocean. A gender that is a vast sea of caverns and depths yet to be discovered. Made with otherkin related to the ocean or sea creatures in mind.

Nanogender– Feeling a small part one gender, with the rest being something else, ex. nanoboy, nanogirl, etc. The “something else” may or may not be known. Also known as nan0gender.

Nocturnalgender– A gender that feels more intense during the night, but weak/nonexistent when it is light out. Also known as batgender, owlgender, moongender.

Orbgender– A gender which feels round, without any edges.

Praegender– A god-like gender far outside beyond the normal cognizance of gender that is, omnipresent, not null, but other, and beyond mortality and time. For deity-kin and god-kin it can also represent a gender their deity/god self had in their past life before reincarnation.


Surgender– Having a gender which is 100% one gender with more on top of that of other gender(s).


Witchgender– A gender that has closeness or connection to witchcraft and magic. It has a feeling of power and magic to it.


I just...well...what?!?

I know this species has grown decadent, but this makes no damned sense...where...what are we!? Humans...humans...hmmmm...well...

*starts plotting impartial genocide*
:mad: This list needs to include attack helicopters! Specifically the Boeing AH-64 longbow, which I identify as!
 

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What's good about a generation obsessing over "gender" to the point of absurdity? Just goes to show that the ideology is counter-productive, creating new conceptual shackles instead of facilitating liberation and autonomy. The whole point is that people should stop wasting time judging and trying to fit each other into boxes and just let each other be whatever they are so we can get to the real business. No stupid label can capture the essence of a human person. We are what we are. Each one is different.
I feel like this shit exists almost exclusively on blogs and websites where melodramatic fuckwits get together and exaggerate about the happenings in their day-to-day lives, and they do it on the internet because they're guaranteed to find SOMEONE who agrees with them there. If people just stopped giving these absolute retards the attention they so crave they'd probably disappear pretty quickly.
Indeed. These people *want* to be put into boxes so hard they've made up all this BS. Individuality not necessary. All so they can rationalize their inane narcissism. It's not about getting rid of excessive social pressures and judgements, but about being the petty tyrants of their own personal kingdoms.

*starts plotting impartial genocide*


Bring the vaccines. Utopia, here we come!
 

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I guess it's cringey, but not nearly as cringey as that site.

It's a weak attempt to instigate outrage.
Eat it up.
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I need to update my Genderdex. How am I suppose to catch them all?
 

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Perhaps one might measure these constructs by their long term coherence in various societies or subcultures. If they are transient, they might be dismissed as individual brainstorming. But if they have traction and cultural relevance to some "significant number" of people, then perhaps it's worth understanding them as operant symbols to those people. This internet manufactured list is making me wonder how it would compare to gender terms in various indigenous, not internet driven societies. I suspect they have far fewer terms, but I know that plenty of world peoples don't just have "man | woman".
 

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I'm not very familiar with the whole gender concept so give me break if I'm horribly wrong. :confused:
To me it seems the whole concept of gender is based on there being two extremes on either end of the spectrum, the manliest of men, all testosterone and no oestrogen and on the other end, the most feminine of females and we all fall somewhere in-between; and identifying as a gender is to know where you are on the spectrum. And there will always women who feel like men, or men who feel like women or men who feel they should be women and so on.
But then this list has stuff like 'Astralgender' (one that feels connected to space) or 'Frostgender' (one that feels cold and snowy). The definition of gender has a trend of being how one identifies, between male and female based on cultural norms, so why on earth is there now a gender for 'being overwhelming and suffocating'!? Maybe some of these are satire, idk, but if you want to classify general genders, don't describe them as 'as deep and mysterious as the ocean itself', it's unscientific, has no relation to what genders are actually there for and it's not helping anybody, really.
 

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One's sexuality is only one aspect of one's identity. That list of funny 'genders' tries to collapse that, so there is only sexual identity. It's wrong, it's not how the vast majority of human beings work. Maybe there really is someone somewhere whose entire identity is conceived of in terms of their sexuality, but they are probably in an insane asylum. If your identity is "moody and depressed" or "dreaming and fanciful", maybe your sexuality is a driver for that somehow, but it simply isn't your gender. The people who made that list are confusing gender politics for identity politics, perhaps deliberately.
 

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One's sexuality is only one aspect of one's identity. That list of funny 'genders' tries to collapse that, so there is only sexual identity. It's wrong, it's not how the vast majority of human beings work. Maybe there really is someone somewhere whose entire identity is conceived of in terms of their sexuality, but they are probably in an insane asylum. If your identity is "moody and depressed" or "dreaming and fanciful", maybe your sexuality is a driver for that somehow, but it simply isn't your gender. The people who made that list are confusing gender politics for identity politics, perhaps deliberately.
From the descriptions I read, it seemed to indicate basically that gender is fluid and situational. I do think there is a pattern here that shows that gender is a more about social identity than brain wiring. It would make sense that a persons social identity would be dependent on what is going on with that person and their views and connections with society.

I dont think that they are trying to put all forms of what makes an identy under gender. Instead I think they are trying to identify the triggers of their fluid gender roles.
 

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Well maybe I'm wrong but I find it hard to believe there's some overwhelming surplus of people who deliberately fuck with people's gender pronouns just to be rude/obnoxious.
There's some of that in the USA (i.e., just to be obnoxious), but no, most of it is more driven by moral superiority.
 

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gender
n 1: The properties that distinguish organisms on the basis of
their reproductive roles


Case closed.
 

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There's some of that in the USA (i.e., just to be obnoxious), but no, most of it is more driven by moral superiority.
Not so much as the person viewing themselves as superior as them viewing the other person to be failing in meeting with social standards and values. I.e. Transgender and flamboyancy equates to attention seeking which is viewed as inappropriate behaviour.
 

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n 1: The properties that distinguish organisms on the basis of
their reproductive roles


Case closed.
So female has the baby and male kills the baby but female eats the male and regurgitates them in order to feed the baby.
 

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A numerical gender, a gender that knows what it isnt but not what it is, a gender that has been blown yo a million pieces, etc etc :confused:
 
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