Actually RB, I think you’ve made a decent case against me there. I can certainly see where you’re coming from. Let’s drill down in to a bit:
- he expressed suspicion of her [Sinny], but locked his vote into Hado
If I recall correctly, my initial vote for Sinny was a ‘lolvote’ at the start of the game. I then voiced my suspicion around anyone who overtly offers their insights so early on in the game, as it both deflects attention from oneself and also promotes a pro-town persona. However, I have long since reconsidered this as faulty reasoning.
I have since openly declared that Sinny is “A chill MF”, and therefore had no further reason to suspect her at present. I’ve had some communication with Sinny during my time on INTPf (we both love the aliens, innit) and I don’t see any disparity between her normal persona and the one she projects here. At the very least, she is consistent and therefore hard to read.
Yes, I have played a few games… but the last was very nearly a decade ago. They're pretty much irrelevant.
- despite the fact I was the biggest detractor of Sinny who he was (apparently) suspicious of, he actually went after me and started talking about how I was, "suspicious" for thinking Hado was town (who happened to be the person he said he'd tunnel)
Again (and as per my post above yours) I have since reconsidered this.
- I rattled his cage in return, and he turned from "it's an online game lol get over it" into acting indignant that I'd insulted him (when I didn't actually insult him) - Maybe this isn't a legit scumtell in itself, but to me it just seems manipulative and inconsistent and in conjunction with the other stuff I read it as such.
Yeah, I don’t know where I was going with that. When things get heated, I like to push buttons to see what happens. You almost immediately cooled off and revealed nothing of use. It was part frustration (operating on 3-4 hours of sleep will do that to a guy) and part wanting to poke you with a stick. I’m a bastard for that sort of thing IRL. ‘Social experiments’, as I call them. It's a good way to find out what's at someone's core.
- Also, I'm not sure if this next part is a legit read, but I get the impression that people most often say how "sorry" they are if they're scum and not Town - because they genuinely do feel some amount of sorry for doing scummy work and getting people like Hado lynched. The YouTube video promise seems scummy as fuck to me
Nah, that was simply misguided fervour. My gut so rarely wrong that I trust it implicitly. To give you an example, during one of the last games I played I successfully called out three mafia members on
day 2 - but I had the benefit of knowing them (some IRL) and experience of previous games with them. Obviously, I had more data to work with there and could extrapolate more accurate predictions. That doesn’t translate here, where I don’t really know any of you. Hado was a mistake, and I’ve since calmed down / backed off, because I realise how weak my position actually is.
I think your observation about apologies is interesting, but it doesn’t apply to me. INTJ, dear. I’m more sorry that I was wrong
- he's pretty much trying to deny that reading people's personalities is a legit way to read them, like he gets so uncomfortable about the fact that I managed to read Hado as Town and Sinny as scum, or that I'm bringing up things that are verifiably how and what scum actually do - that he starts attacking me for it.
I think you mistook me here. I wasn’t so much attacking you, but I do think I was beginning to get frustrated with the fact that I’m clearly on the back foot here. I’m enjoying the game, but it’s like I’m seeing in greyscale. You have the benefit of previous games / knowledge of the players here, which is a huge boon. You get to see the nuances in behaviour. The best I can do at the moment (perhaps more, as of today - more data to go on) is bang people over the head with a brick to see what spills out.
- he even attacked Hado for saying shit that makes total sense as Town: like Cheeseums changing his avatar. It really makes no sense that he'd actively fight against things that cause less confusion for Town.
Like your opinion on apologetic natures, my own view on being overtly pro-town is misguided. In a rather ISTJ moment, I allowed past precedent to predict probable outcomes. It has been my experience that people who are a bit ‘too’ pro-town usually have something to hide. I don’t think this is hard to understand.
Overall, I can see your case and I think, some misguided perceptions aside, you are bringing perfectly valid reasons to suspect me to the fore. All I can offer is that I am a vanilla townie. If however you decide to bandwagon me, so be it. Just be aware that doing so means it’ll be one step closer to a mafia win… but then so far, I haven’t really contributed much, have I? So maybe I’m worth a punt.
If nothing else, you’ll learn something for the next game. Christ knows I have.
If anyone else wants to prod / poke me, go ahead. I *should* have a fairly free day today.
