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Duxwing derailing threads...again

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Duxwing

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I have a severe panic disorder. And I have experienced utmost similar situations (perhaps even more extreme) as presented by Dove.
You and Dove are not the same person.

Duxwing, You are not in any moral position to tell anybody that understanding is useless.
Moral position? What leap of logic brings ethics into this discussion?

You should be quiet.
Thus far, you haven't understood my point or applied logic to yours. I levy the same unto you.

And let those of us who know our people reach out and help them out of their condition.
So somehow your sufferings make you an expert on a person and subject of which we have little knowledge? And apparently you do think that you know, for unlike me, you haven't asked her a single question: you've leapt straight to judgment.

And isn't that exactly the sort of immature J that you described another person as? You are hoist by your own petard.

But you should keep your mouth shut.
No. I refuse, and I will continue to discuss this with you until you either see the light of day, convince me, leave, or have a meltdown.

Wherever there is a lack of understanding as much hell as you has raised in this thread. No! I will not allow anyone nor you Duxwing, to condemn people as being invalid, when you have stated our condition as an incapability of understanding.
Lack of understanding? Even if you're right, then you are an utter hypocrite: When did I state any of this? You're arguing against a strawman.

I stated that understanding will not help her on a timescale relevant to her mental health and then advised her to leave the house. From context, you should have reasoned that understanding her in-laws implied to staying in the house while doing so. Understanding them later is fine, but staying in that house while trying to is needlessly dangerous, like sitting in a burning building while trying to invent the fire extinguisher.

You have shown such stupidity that you should be quiet, when it comes to moral condemnation.
You perceive that I have shown stupidity because you haven't actually understood my point, which does not pertain to any sort of moral condemnation of her nor dismissal of understanding in general. You have argued against a strawman with unbelievable self-righteousness and arrogance, too intellectually lazy and too eager to dish out 'justice' on a sore point of yours to ask whether I meant any of what you've asserted. Get out of your Ni la-la land for a moment and use your Ti and Se to check your logic.

-Duxwing

P.S. Having a bad day/week/month? As surprised as I am by your outburst, there's no sense in badgering someone for something done in the heat of the moment. :)
 

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Re: Not sure where to put this... I was called evil???

You know, Dove already has enough strife in her life, maybe if you guys could just take it outside if you want to debate your personal issues further and come back when you're both on the same page...?
 

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Re: Not sure where to put this... I was called evil???

@Duxwing you can't even understand yourself objectively in the way I presented. I thus have no desire in arguing with you.
 

Duxwing

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Re: Not sure where to put this... I was called evil???

@Duxwing you can't even understand yourself objectively in the way I presented. I thus have no desire in arguing with you.
Objectively how? Explain.

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Re: Not sure where to put this... I was called evil???

Objectively how? Explain.

-Duxwing
I'll repeat: In the way I presented.
 

Duxwing

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Re: Not sure where to put this... I was called evil???

I'll repeat: In the way I presented.
You just want me to accept what you say as true without proof, then? Especially in the face of what you said being manifestly unrelated to what I actually said, and in the face of your considerable ignorance of me? You realize that you claim to, having seen me over the internet alone, understand me "objectively"? You haven't even revealed your reasoning in concluding what you did: much of it does not follow, as I've demonstrated. Therefore, your conclusion is one of pure intuition, one that skepticism tells me to avoid trusting.

-Duxwing
 

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Re: Not sure where to put this... I was called evil???

You just want me to accept what you say as true without proof, then? Especially in the face of what you said being manifestly unrelated to what I actually said, and in the face of your considerable ignorance of me? You realize that you claim to, having seen me over the internet alone, understand me "objectively"? You haven't even revealed your reasoning in concluding what you did: much of it does not follow, as I've demonstrated. Therefore, your conclusion is one of pure intuition, one that skepticism tells me to avoid trusting.

-Duxwing
Yeah keep on doing that. Follow your egoism. Until you are capable of understanding the logic I presented, I will not argue you. Stop making further arguments.
 

Duxwing

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Re: Not sure where to put this... I was called evil???

Yeah keep on doing that. Follow your egoism. Until you are capable of understanding the logic I presented, I will not argue you.
What egoism? You're not presenting any proof of egoism, and the proof that you have presented is riddled with holes. You don't want me to stop being an egoist, want me to trust your judgment.

Stop making further arguments.
As I've stated before, no.

-Duxwing
 

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I refuse, and I will continue to discuss this with you until you either see the light of day, convince me, leave, or have a meltdown.
As I've stated before, no.
You'd be advised to keep your childish stubbornness to a minimum, Duxwing, especially where it concerns completely thoughtless derailments of threads for your own sake - having to have the last word.
 

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After some reflection on the long-running tenor of your posts, Duxwing - that is the rigid, prescriptive, dogmatic, overly intrusive, uninvited, nitpicky, exclusionary and even bullying style of your contributions. I've decided to take things further, now.

Not to be seen just as punishment, but as a method to break habits long enough to give you time for pause and reflection, you'll be spending a week in Siberia. It's an exercise to give yourself and the forum a break; an opportunity to learn.

I know you'll be full of questions as to why - please take the opportunity for self critique and really listen to every bit of feedback your fellow forum-goers may be generous enough to share with you.
 
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