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does time= death?

sushi

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is time= death or does time=/= death

or is time an eternal continuum. time without death is eternal.
if time excludes death, it is eternal.

if time include death, it is death and entropy itself.
 

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I think they are very much related. The concept of time exist because of the perception of change (or change in ones perception). And what is change if not the death of one and the birth of another
 

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Humans have always decided the difference between "up" and "down" by referring to the solid ground under our feet. The Earth is below us, the sky above us. Simple enough. Things are not so straightforward with space's husband, time. The difference between backward and forward in time, or between "pastward" and "futureward" has always been decided not by reference to any public object, but our own private experience of the flow of time. Time seems to flow ever onward, even as space stays still, so that we continually find here patches of colour and other feelings that were there but a moment ago.

Two of the greatest scientific discoveries of the 19th century enable us to answer the question of why we perceive time as flowing in one direction and not the other. The first is entropy. The direction in which we perceive time to flow is also the direction in which entropy increases, in which organic structures are broken down by irreversible processes.

The second discovery that facilitates our understanding of time is natural selection. We now understand ourselves to be among those organic structures whose continued existence is threatened by entropy, but which resist it by self-propagation in community with their environment. As self-subsisting and sexually reproducing organisms, we are "designed" to defy entropy, where the designer is merely the totality of nature, which preserves those species which preserves themselves, and dispenses with those that do not.
 

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Why time and space in music is experienced differently though?Did we combat entropy in this realm?
 

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to prove this, it is necessary to prove that the law of time= law of death, as nature is governed by natural laws

law of time implies the movment from past to future, or the movment of future to past

it is the flow from future to past, or past to future.

an space time event is merely the connection, or movment from past to futre.


law of time is like any natural laws, like gravity, or thermodynamics
 

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Time in its most observable form is measured by thermodynamic along with cosmological. Exothermic/Endothermic reactions transfer heat from one state to another which causes action. In terms of both of these laws they are asymmetric: The thermodynamic law of times states entropy increases as time passes leading to randomized occurences, the cosmological simply refers to the radiation screen apparent in any direction in our universe: After a while it becomes apparent that microwave radiation surround us, given off heat we'd expect from a singularity.

Time is change, and change is a property of what we knew in the past to be altered in the current, or what we know in the current to be altered in the future. Death is a product of the future as the current is the state we exist , it is also the state in which everything we appear to be "true" exists: Perceptually, we see the sun's current state as the "true" one and the change to solar dwarfism being one representing "death". All of these concepts are perceptual, the first law of thermodynamics the law of conservation of energy doesn't suggest any birth or death, just transmission of heat.

In summary, the perceptual concept of time we have is different from the thermodynamic or cosmological concept of time. The perceptual concept discusses the birth and death of time, while the latter concepts are mechanical processes.
 

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@sushi Hm...I think I'm following you, but if I'm not mistake, you are using a perspective as time to analyze the concept of time.
This philosophy fits very well into the way new layers of earth's crust are created in the ocean. Sand is just fragments of dead things, which eventually reach the trenches where they'll become magma used to create another layer of earth. Our deaths become the means that extend the existence of what is material.

As far as concepts go, I think life and death are more aptly features of time. Time isn't dependent on our existence or lack thereof. I suppose this leads to the argument of "is there sound if no one's there to hear it?" It's all relative. Sure, time is death, but death is contingent on there being life to compare it to. It's both.

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I think you have a lot of thoughts being condensed into short metaphors. If you feel comfortable with it, could you share your progression of thought? You don't have to, I know it can be exhausting. I do enjoy your threads, btw! You pose the best questions.
 

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Time in its most observable form is measured by thermodynamic along with cosmological. Exothermic/Endothermic reactions transfer heat from one state to another which causes action. In terms of both of these laws they are asymmetric: The thermodynamic law of times states entropy increases as time passes leading to randomized occurences, the cosmological simply refers to the radiation screen apparent in any direction in our universe: After a while it becomes apparent that microwave radiation surround us, given off heat we'd expect from a singularity.

Time is change, and change is a property of what we knew in the past to be altered in the current, or what we know in the current to be altered in the future. Death is a product of the future as the current is the state we exist , it is also the state in which everything we appear to be "true" exists: Perceptually, we see the sun's current state as the "true" one and the change to solar dwarfism being one representing "death". All of these concepts are perceptual, the first law of thermodynamics the law of conservation of energy doesn't suggest any birth or death, just transmission of heat.

In summary, the perceptual concept of time we have is different from the thermodynamic or cosmological concept of time. The perceptual concept discusses the birth and death of time, while the latter concepts are mechanical processes.
time is movement from past to future, or movment from future to past. it is not just change. change can happen without movement in time

age increases, time decreases.

How does time increase, how does time decrease?

I think you have a lot of thoughts being condensed into short metaphors. If you feel comfortable with it, could you share your progression of thought? You don't have to, I know it can be exhausting. I do enjoy your threads, btw! You pose the best questions.
thanks. it seems only people here understand my train of thought, so i tend to share them here.

newtonian philosophy is just studying the laws of nature, which begins with discovery of gravity.
 

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thanks. it seems only people here understand my train of thought, so i tend to share them here.

newtonian philosophy is just studying the laws of nature, which begins with discovery of gravity.
To cut some slack to the people you know irl, all your posts are written down, where we can read your prompts, think, then respond. In verbal conversations, whatever comes out is usually someone's knee-jerk reaction to whatever it is they think they heard you say.
 
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