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Destined to Doom?

pjoa09

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I've started to ponder, probably I am the only one destined to doom. But judging by the letters I-N-T-P , I have noticed we barely can get any motivation to work.
Apparently, I dont seek knowledge I happen to trip on it and get consumed so its pointless to exist for me.

I - I am concerned with what I think not you. So I dont need to impress you.

N - I dont give a shit about whats real, I like my dreams and ideas.

T - You cant say anything to make me feel bad about myself.

P - Well, I don't care when do I *HAVE* to go to work or when class starts.

And I, most likely you as well, questioned everything to the point where its meaningless to do anything at all. Fairly logical.

Born to Die.

So really, we have been only alive because of Fs, Es,and Js without them no one would really bothered to let us live because we don't see the point of existence, we have gone through all the arguments and have learnt that this is just meaningless. If anything its the sake of our own current pleasures.

So my question is. Recipe for Doom? Can we do anything without getting bored first? ( I do well first quarter or even 10 days before saying fuck this and forget about the class or task)

Also on an unimportant question that is on the wrong thread.
Can we be any use in business or anything relating to market? Or should I just get out of this shithole because I am as useful as anyone being paid $150 a month to work when I am supposed to run it. Any luck in stock market? ( I have been told its useless, considering its "manipulated".)

*Salary is based on developing countries.
*Apologies for any grammatical or spelling errors.
 

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The quality of the INTP is not to work extensively and produce many gradual results, but to work intensively and produce a grand result. Our source of power comes from within, it manifests as inspiration. Do not expect to be motivated daily by ambition to do something you feel (think) is not important. Patience is a virtue, exercise it.

In business INTP is most suited to positions that require persons who posses intensive thinking skills with a knack for exploring possibilities and are firmly rooted in logic. Alternatively you can capitalize on your sensing skills, but this is more suited to hobbies rather than demanding jobs.

Also:
YouTube- Exciter - Born to Die
 

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We have evolved from an industrial age to an information age; before both of these, INTPs were considered a bunch of twats. Questioning church authority and engaging in ontological arguments previously had no outlet in a maturing, agrarian society. INTPs finally have a respected voice - on some levels - of independence and intelligence, and now you want to throw in the towel?
 

pjoa09

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"I'm not going to stop dancing just because the music will eventually end."
But I am going to walk out of the oven if the door is open.
 

pjoa09

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The quality of the INTP is not to work extensively and produce many gradual results, but to work intensively and produce a grand result. Our source of power comes from within, it manifests as inspiration. Do not expect to be motivated daily by ambition to do something you feel (think) is not important. Patience is a virtue, exercise it.

In business INTP is most suited to positions that require persons who posses intensive thinking skills with a knack for exploring possibilities and are firmly rooted in logic. Alternatively you can capitalize on your sensing skills, but this is more suited to hobbies rather than demanding jobs.

Also:
YouTube- Exciter - Born to Die
haha, I guess I've sat on the wrong side of the table.
 

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such is the curse of endless curiosity. before you can master something, you're interested in something else. why can't i just stick to one thing?

remember that everything is grist for the mill. even when you think you're not applying yourself, procrastinating, or abandoning projects, you're still feeding your subconscious, which is an essential part of creating.

other types don't grasp how we make the connections we make. because without incubation there can be no illumination.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incubation_(psychology)
 
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I, for one, feel just like the OP. God, I even thought I was alone in this one.

I used to think I was special in some sort of way, and would eventually find a grand reason for everything and live happily ever after, but that's never going to happen, is it?

I don't have motivation for anything, because it has no real reason behind it, and is therefore pointless. Why attend classes - 'cause it gives me an ability to work? Well, why work - 'cause it gives me a living? Why live then?

AND WHY THE FUCK SHOULD I CUT MY FUCKIN LAWN
 

EyeSeeCold

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I don't have motivation for anything, because it has no real reason behind it, and is therefore pointless. Why attend classes - 'cause it gives me an ability to work? Well, why work - 'cause it gives me a living? Why live then?
Haha I made the same exact deduction a few times while pondering my existence.
 

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I, for one, feel just like the OP. God, I even thought I was alone in this one.

I used to think I was special in some sort of way, and would eventually find a grand reason for everything and live happily ever after, but that's never going to happen, is it?

I don't have motivation for anything, because it has no real reason behind it, and is therefore pointless. Why attend classes - 'cause it gives me an ability to work? Well, why work - 'cause it gives me a living? Why live then?

AND WHY THE FUCK SHOULD I CUT MY FUCKIN LAWN

... Had to try my best not to laugh out loud when reading this in the library. And yes, INTPs are probably doomed. I've spent to many college hours searching for more information, so many random classes I should have a degree with the credits, but no. Are we the true jack-off-all-trades since everything is curious, atleast to me. [ooo, look shiney!}
 

EyeSeeCold

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Are we the true jack-off-all-trades since everything is curious, atleast to me. [ooo, look shiney!}
We could be, but there's a difference between knowing everything and be able to do everything.
 

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we are only doomed if we keep procrastinating, as much as I and probably most INTPs hate to lead i think its the only way the for anything to get better what with our superior logic and all...
 

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lighten up, guys. nobody can't do what they want to do. you just have to kick yourself in the ass enough to get started.

no point in giving up before you even start.
no point in starting if you only intend to give up.
 

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No point in doing anything when you already know you can do it.
 

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I, for one, feel just like the OP. God, I even thought I was alone in this one.

I used to think I was special in some sort of way, and would eventually find a grand reason for everything and live happily ever after, but that's never going to happen, is it?

I don't have motivation for anything, because it has no real reason behind it, and is therefore pointless. Why attend classes - 'cause it gives me an ability to work? Well, why work - 'cause it gives me a living? Why live then?

AND WHY THE FUCK SHOULD I CUT MY FUCKIN LAWN
I'm thinking the same exact thing.
Since I'm only 16, I'm only beginning to have less and less motivation for doing things. I reckon it'll just get worse until I spend my whole life sat at a computer.
 

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No point in doing anything when you already know you can do it.
yes, but do you really know. many long-term goals of today require persistence and assertiveness, and not raw intelligence per se. unless you are willing to roll up your sleeves, intelligence will only get you so far in certain avenues. for instance, jobs in academia, medicine, and law do require intelligence - intelligence benchmarks which can be evaluated beforehand - but they require other skills as well, some of which might be in short supply among this lot.
 

EyeSeeCold

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Was being sarcastic ._.

We should set up INTP camps/workshops around the world to help foster and combine our talens into one unified force. Not like MESA or anything, but institutions that help our lives directly and non-academically. For instance, INTPs could help other INTPs get easy jobs and other deals to make our lives easier.
 
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I have a crazy grandma in MESA haha.. shes a physics genius but shes fukin crazy so it doesnt matter..shes a lesbian/hoarder with some kind of personality disorder, and she pretends shes a tough guy and intimidates people..shes also in a wheelchair and has oxygen haha.

But ya. Sometimes i wish i was an entj, apparently theyre good a work and shit..i dont know. We have to find some way where we can use our sense of imagination and apply it somewhere. Like art or something. Ive always wanted to be an actor filmmaker. It seems that society is built for a few types of personality and INTP isnt one of them, which sucks. All we can do is laugh at how stupid people are and make them feel like shit. Thats what i do to my family, and now they think that im crazy..

I think that every INTP should have some organizational specialist aid with them at all times, so they can put the INTPs ideas into reality..thatd be cool. Combining 2 personalities. One who likes to do tons of work, and an INTP. The INTP can use the other one to apply things to real life that he wouldnt do on his own. Im lazy as fuck. I have to write a dumb history paper, but instead im here and playing call of duty at the same time. And downloading video editing software, because my 30 trial ran out...

Isnt history stupid as fuck? i mean, i enjoy a good quick history about how stuff came to be, but in depth political history? fuck.History is literally useless. I have to write a paper about what i think about europeans invading America and killing indians to create the wonderful happy place i live in today..I think ill just argue that religion was the most imprtant aspect of the development of Colonial America..Thats should be pretty easy.
 

EyeSeeCold

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But ya. Sometimes i wish i was an entj, apparently theyre good a work and shit..i dont know.
ENTJs suck hard at parenting and other family/emotional matters, stereotypically.

I think that every INTP should have some organizational specialist aid with them at all times, so they can put the INTPs ideas into reality..thatd be cool. Combining 2 personalities. One who likes to do tons of work, and an INTP. The INTP can use the other one to apply things to real life that he wouldnt do on his own.
I totally would go for this, but it would have to be more of a mutual thing not some babysitter taking care of implementing my work...Maybe a robot assistant?

Isnt history stupid as fuck? i mean, i enjoy a good quick history about how stuff came to be, but in depth political history? fuck.History is literally useless.
I disagree, history is a great tool for future insight in a lot of fields. Plus I'm attracted to the idealistic aspects of some historic events like WWII. But I agree that in-depth political history is boring, but the major stuff is pretty interesting.
 
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C'mon..u r urself negatively "analysing urself "
Let me edit that post as the way I think....

I - I am concerned with what I think and everyone else too..its my passion to analyse from diff point of views...but over yrs I found theres no "perfect right".... So I dont need to impress you.

N - I dont give a shit see about whats real, but I like my dreams and ideas a lot more...I get inspired to turn the real practical world somewhere not very close but at least in the direction I see the world of my dreams

T - You cant say anything to make me feel bad about myself....coz its in my attitude to supress my feelings..so I get to actually understand the probs with myself....and others can actually criticize me directly without caring about my feelings --the more direct the point..the better for me

P - Well, I don't care when do I *HAVE* to go to work or when class starts...<hmmm...I'm trying to work on this myself a lot!> :slashnew:

[[ btw..what i posted in italics above aint a theory..as far as I found..over past two yrs I have spent most of my time pondering over such matters about myself..and te results I got are somewhat explained in italics ]]

:D:):slashnew:
 

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The more I learn and experience, the more I feel like the only thing I'm really hoping and searching for with life is death.
 

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I've thought of life as pointless for years... and secretly hoping that death would find me already. If all the other intp's are like me, they're never going to make a suicide - I'm way too lazy to do that. I procrascinate too much for it. It sounds like such a hassle.

Are you SURE that life is pointless? What if you just missed it or there was an error in your logic. Are you sure that if you stay home today, you won't miss something of interest in school?

When I'm not questioning those things, I tend to hoard all kinds of things that I find interesting around me to keep my motivation.
 
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It's threads like this that make think this forum can't be good for my mental health.

My entire reasoning for living is something like this: Point in life or not, why would you prefer death? There's certainly no point there. At least in life, there's always a chance--to experience, to think, to learn, at least.
 

pjoa09

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lighten up, guys. nobody can't do what they want to do. you just have to kick yourself in the ass enough to get started.

no point in giving up before you even start.
no point in starting if you only intend to give up.
its funny, i sit on my leg.

but damn, now i hate civilization. i was supposed to be weeded out.
 

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Death is beyond life. The state of one should not elicit a desire for the other.

Figure out for yourself, do you seek meaning in life or in death? If the latter, realize you exist in the former, you cannot possibly fathom what it means to be in a state of death.
 

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I frequently go through existential crises. I fall into a deep hole of analyzing myself and the world around me. Many times I get frustrated with the general ignorance and stupidty of people. Not that I'm a genius or anything but there are a lot of stupid people out there.

Usually I find solice in music or in philosophy, or my own creativity (photography). Sometimes, I just disconnect from the world for a bit (go and ride my motorbike for a few days/weeks).

When it comes to work, I motivate myself through my desire to learn and understand things. That's why I am an engineer I guess.

If someone asks me "what's the point of all this shit?" my current answer is to understand and figure this shit out haha; to understand and figure out anything and everything I can.
 

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About history. I have always enjoyed it but never knew why. It wasn't until I studied the earliest history and worked my way up that I discovered every thing is connected in the most literal sense. When you look at it as a whole you see this grand pattern in life and culture which leads to what you are doing at a particular moment.

When you question why you do something, it never leads down the right road. To get over it you must either create a reality in which doing something is good, like a religion or something or live for the experience of life and hope you will find meaning somewhere along the way.
 
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