BPD

[ProxyAmenRa]

Why do so many women have borderline personality disorder?

 

[viche]

idk ... where are you finding them? statistics on borderline is that only 2-3% of population have this disorder so you shouldn't be finding that many

 

[snafupants]

Why do some men? What kind of a question is that?

 

[ApostateAbe]

The question sort of presumes a fact that has yet to be established or widely agreed, so this is one of the lessons on how to not start threads.

 

[ProxyAmenRa]

Its all anecdotal. Nothing concrete of course. I just seem to attract them for some strange reason.

Edit 1: Perhaps the question I should ask is 'why do I attract them'. They are like moths.

Edit 2: This thread warrants no more replies.

 

[Jean Paul]

Why do some men? What kind of a question is that?

I'll raise you that sir and say

Why does it exist at all?

 

[Saoshyant]

Its all anecdotal. Nothing concrete of course. I just seem to attract them for some strange reason.

What MBTI types do you think they are or too tough to say?

 

[ProxyAmenRa]

What MBTI types do you think they are or too tough to say?

ESFP, ENFP, ENFJ

 

[Jennywocky]

ESFP, ENFP, ENFJ

EFP's probably a good guess, although I know an ISFP with severe Borderline. I would at least say FP as most likely.

Borderline is mostly a lack of real self-ego, so the self is looking outwards to find definition. DSM lists symptoms to be:

A pervasive pattern of instability of interpersonal relationships, self-image and affects, as well as marked impulsivity, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

1. Frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment. Note: Do not include suicidal or self-injuring behavior covered in Criterion 5
2. A pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships characterized by alternating between extremes of idealization and devaluation.
3. Identity disturbance: markedly and persistently unstable self-image or sense of self.
4. Impulsivity in at least two areas that are potentially self-damaging (e.g., promiscuous sex, eating disorders, binge eating, substance abuse, reckless driving). Note: Do not include suicidal or self-injuring behavior covered in Criterion 5
5. Recurrent suicidal behavior, gestures, threats or self-injuring behavior such as cutting, interfering with the healing of scars (excoriation) or picking at oneself.
6. Affective instability due to a marked reactivity of mood (e.g., intense episodic dysphoria, irritability or anxiety usually lasting a few hours and only rarely more than a few days).
7. Chronic feelings of emptiness
8. Inappropriate anger or difficulty controlling anger (e.g., frequent displays of temper, constant anger, recurrent physical fights).
9. Transient, stress-related paranoid ideation, delusions or severe dissociative symptoms

Women more typically look to others for their identity and seem to struggle more with building a core identity -- the innate relational web leaning + how women get socialized seems to make us more vulnerable if I had to guess. Types that are very malleable (FP) seem to struggle more. It's like the person feels there is an idealized self they have to be, but cannot be; in the process, valid self-desires are squashed and come out through obsessive/out of control behaviors; meanwhile the person expects others to compensate her for her sacrifice in trying to fit the idealized image; emptiness results when anyone is not being who they are supposed to be and ego desires are being suppressed; suicide attempts tend to be more cries for help and attention than actual attempts to end life, as the self is seeking to live finally, not to end. Lots of unreasonable expectations for how others should be bolstering the self ego.

It seems to improve when the self is treated legitimately, ego boundaries are strengthened, and the person stops looking outwardly for identity and has enough core to not behave passively all the time.

 

[snafupants]

Sad to think that all of these disorders and their problematic manifestations are the result of too much/too little electrical firing in particular parts of the brain.

 

[Deleted member 1424]

After trying for a long time to understand my mother's neurosis, this is the conclusion where my siblings and I arrived.

I sympathize.

 

[Kuu]

Sad to think that all of these disorders and their problematic manifestations are the result of too much/too little electrical firing in particular parts of the brain.

that certainly can be fixed! bring out the brain stimulation!

 

[Cavallier]

Saying "brain" and "electrical stimulation" is the mating call evocation charm of Kuus everywhere.

 

[DarkGreen]

I also attract those types mostly because people take indifference for kindness. Where one person may call that person creepy you might ignore it because it's boring and and the kid is creepy, why state the obvious? Then the weirdo thinks you like him just because you don't hate him. INTP's have to say, 'NO' loud and clear if they want those types to go away. Mostly though you wouldn't care enough to yell at the stalker and only avoid the person but he or she doesn't get it because they can't read social cues. It's a big pain because while you don't like or dislike the person they can't understand. It'll go like this:
INTP: I don't hate you.
Weirdo: So we're friends?
INTP: I don't like you either.
Weirdo: I don't believe you.
INTP: If you keep this up I'll dislike you.
Weirdo: I still don't believe you.
Only overt cruelty will drive these types away like a beaten dog will run from its master. I hate to be mean to people so I always end up with these types. It's common to the introverted person who doesn't give a damn, I think.