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Bill Maher

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i cant comment on his type...but ill comment on HIM. as an entertainer, i got respect for him...as a political commentator? nothing there. His ideas are fun, but too many times it just feels like hes trolling. and as far as politics infused with entertainment in general...blech.
 

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i cant comment on his type...but ill comment on HIM. as an entertainer, i got respect for him...as a political commentator? nothing there. His ideas are fun, but too many times it just feels like hes trolling. and as far as politics infused with entertainment in general...blech.

The one sided left comedy is what hooked me though. :) I will admit that he steps on the toes of a lot of people but that's why I respect him so much. He tells people a lot of things that I'd like to but don't have the confidence to do.
 

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The one sided left comedy is what hooked me though. :) I will admit that he steps on the toes of a lot of people but that's why I respect him so much. He tells people a lot of things that I'd like to but don't have the confidence to do.

And that I do respect him for...he does definitely say the things that most people avoid.

ever see Religulous?
 

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The overlap between entertainment and political commentary is something that has bothered me mainly among conservative radio talk shows, but there are also plenty of leftists who do it, such as Jon Stewart, Michael Moore and Bill Maher. It bothers me because they tend to be strictly partisan, lest they offend their partisan audience, and reasonable analysis or truth is secondary. When Bill Maher filmed his docuganda Religulous, he claimed on camera that the myth of Jesus was in part a derivative of the Indian god Krishna. This belief is popular among anti-Christian activists, but there is absolutely no evidence for it, no sound argument for it, and every respected academic authority on the matter rejects it. You can get your entertainment from people like Bill Maher, but you run the risk of getting misled. I suggest getting your entertainment from entertainers who are not political commentators, and I suggesting getting your political commentary from respected non-partisan political experts, such as those on FactCheck.org, PolitiFact.com, or NPR News.
 

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The overlap between entertainment and political commentary is something that has bothered me mainly among conservative radio talk shows, but there are also plenty of leftists who do it, such as Jon Stewart, Michael Moore and Bill Maher. It bothers me because they tend to be strictly partisan, lest they offend their partisan audience, and reasonable analysis or truth is secondary.

@ApostateAbe

That's not really true. On Henry Rollins' show, Bill Maher admitted to supporting the death penalty, which is very right wing. Also, Maher frequently mocks his audience. :eek:
 

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Well, to be fair, I did use the word, "tend."

Meh, that's weak. You can't suggest something basically false and expect it to slide. :p

Plus, I feel your premise is off when you posit Maher caters to a certain taste in order to sidestep offending a partisan audience. That's just your perception. @ApostateAbe

It bothers me because they tend to be strictly partisan, lest they offend their partisan audience, and reasonable analysis or truth is secondary.
 

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@ApostateAbe

That's not really true. On Henry Rollins' show, Bill Maher admitted to supporting the death penalty, which is very right wing. Also, Maher frequently mocks his audience. :eek:

my issue, edited for fun:

The overlap between entertainment and political commentary is something that has bothered me mainly among conservative radio talk shows, but there are also plenty of leftists who do it, such as Jon Stewart, Michael Moore and Bill Maher. It bothers me because they tend to be strictly for concise entertainment which creates headline mentalitiespartisan, lest they offend their partisan audience, leaving reasonable analysis and/or truth as is secondary.

when ratings guides dictates your agenda/funding/being...its hard to really genuinely believe they are covering important issues. Regardless of which side they happen to be on...it can sometimes be just too much garbage.
 

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when ratings guides dictates your agenda/funding/being...its hard to really genuinely believe they are covering important issues. Regardless of which side they happen to be on...it can sometimes be just too much garbage.
No disagreement. When commentary is designed for entertainment, they will incorporate stories that are entertaining and not necessarily relevant. It is hard to make a good comedy piece out of the socioeconomic effects of non-proportionate IQ distributions, for example.
 

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No disagreement. When commentary is designed for entertainment, they will incorporate stories that are entertaining and not necessarily relevant. It is hard to make a good comedy piece out of the socioeconomic effects of non-proportionate IQ distributions, for example.

I try to imagine current television having some sort of boring, dry,academic, live debate!

reactionary survey results:

"HOW STIMULATING!"
5 persons

"NEEDS MORE BOOBS"
231,123,123 persons
 
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