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Bad Habits

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For quite a long time now I have been struggling to drop some bad habits cause they really eat up my time. I'm sure we all have at least one bad habit and I was surprised after performing a search on this site that I couldn't find a thread about it. I used to smoke two packs of cigarettes and a average of 3gr cannabis a day but I managed to drop this. But long before these habits dominated my life there was my music addiction.

At first I didn't see any harm in listening to music all the time being young of age, but for a year or two now having more responsibilities to deal with I am sick and tired of it. Quitting smoking was very easy compared to what I am facing now. The worst part is it manifests itself in hyper activity (fast pacing through my room and such) Being hooked to my iPod I loose all sense of reality, space and time and withdraw to my own internal world. I can't perform any activity when zoned out like this and the most fascinating thing is when I get the "urge" listen to a certain song it is due to a impulse a sudden thought that fires into my mind. If I attempt to restrain it I get all nervous and shaky like a heroine addict. I used to wake up on a free day and not eat, drink shower or get dressed and just pace around to my music for hours. It might sound ridiculous (I found it hard to accept myself) till I stumbled upon these articles:

http://psychcentral.com/news/2009/06/15/emotional-music-triggers-addictive-brain-activity/6521.html
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Addiction-to-Music-Has-Biochemical-Basis-179952.shtml

"Dopamine is important because it makes us want to repeat behaviors. It’s the reason why addictions exist, whether positive or negative,” Salimpoor explains in an email. "

“In this case, the euphoric ‘highs’ from music are neurochemically reinforced by our brain so we keep coming back to them. It’s like drugs. It works on the same system as cocaine,” he adds."

I concluded from these statements that my music addiction is a result from a lack of dopamine (I have been diagnosed with ADD/ADHD) and DSM acknowledges "Impulse control disorder" (source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_addiction) and I found some references to dealing with bad habits here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habit_(psychology)

The reason for this post is not to rant about my personal life or a cry for moral support. I was wondering about "dopamine related" bad habits of users on this forum since I think these habits/addictions are all branches of the same tree they just manifest themselves in different ways. Anyone had similar experiences? Or know of further references I should look into?
 

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Don't know any further references but I have similar experiences. I think I may be addicted to music, there's a particular group that I recently bought the live concert of, and all I think about doing is getting back to my room so I can listen to it, this has been going on for a week, I constantly listen to music in the same way you describe anyway, just sitting and listening to it and doing nothing else for hours. It's obsessive behavior but I'm not about to stop :D otherwise I am smoking more and more at the moment. My obsessions and addictions usually occur when I'm bored. I've been bored for a while now. I also have ADD. Addictions perhaps caused by restlessness? I bet ADD/ADHD people have more of a tendency towards addictions.
 

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That's pretty interesting, I don't feel unhappy about my addictions though, they spice up my life, even if they make it more difficult or are bad for me. Perhaps thats the worst kind of addictions, or the worst kind of mentality ha, oh well.
 

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Cigarettes and Monster™ energy drinks.

Stimulants make the brain grow stronger.

Plus society calls for us to be very competent and alert sometimes (like for an exam in school, or giving a presentation at work) and allows us to be as slothlike as we want on our "free" time.

We don't really need our bodies/brains to perform the way we'd want them to if we were hunter gatherers, so why should sobriety be the "healthiest" way?
 

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Cigarettes and Monster™ energy drinks.

Stimulants make the brain grow stronger.

Plus society calls for us to be very competent and alert sometimes (like for an exam in school, or giving a presentation at work) and allows us to be as slothlike as we want on our "free" time.

We don't really need our bodies/brains to perform the way we'd want them to if we were hunter gatherers, so why should sobriety be the "healthiest" way?


What he said.
 

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It is rather amazing how psychology keeps coming up with new new terms to explain the ancient concept of habit. Humans really are creatures of habit. Whether any particular habit is 'Good' or 'Bad' is generally a judgement referring to long range outcomes. The very reason habits form is because they provide short term gratification, without an investment of thought. It is difficult in the short term to see any habit as being bad, if it offers immediate gratification.

Currently there is an ongoing thread on cognitive fluency, which seems to be the most recent term used for describing habit. It seems that offering simplicity is effective in eliciting automated thinking/habits and as a result, pleasure...

http://intpforum.com/showthread.php?t=12678

Habits are virtually impossible to destroy, so the best method to change a 'bad' habit does not involve 'quitting', rather it involves transference. One transfers the conditioned response that constitutes habit unto a different stimulus. For example, chew gum instead of smoking cigarettes. Drink non-caffienated beverages instead of caffienated etc.
 
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