# Autistic,Anti social, thinker, iq 140-160

#### xersevx

##### Member
Hey,
I am a bit autistic, antisocial
I think in terms of images and pictures
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I lack social skills due to I was brought up in a boarding school, isolated from the outer world
I am an INTx with means my personality is both INTP AND INTJ

I'll never be rude or ignorant on this forum
Thanks for having me.

#### Animekitty

##### baby marshmallow born today
how many | how fast

amount of items can you manipulate at once with duration?

What is the metric for global increase and decrease?

#### xersevx

##### Member
5 - 6 items , i do not know the max duration.
speed reduces as i add more items but its very fast.
it becomes even faster as i combine the items to be processed like a single item.

is it a test question ?, i dont get your point

#### Serac

##### A menacing post slithers
Being rude and ignorant is good if one can do it with style

#### xersevx

##### Member
Yep it is good but i dont think ill need those things here
You are my people.

#### Rebis

##### Blessed are the hearts that can bend
140-160? Surely you got a digit with a confidence interval (Usually around 8-10 points), not to say you have to state it or anything. Anyways, welcome: we are your people, one of the first lessons I learned coming here is to understand people here are similar to you so don't treat them as you would the general population such as general disregard.

#### Animekitty

##### baby marshmallow born today
5 - 6 items , i do not know the max duration.
speed reduces as i add more items but its very fast.
it becomes even faster as i combine the items to be processed like a single item.

is it a test question ?, i dont get your point
By global metric, I simply meant the way in which you generalize / chunk items in parallel. Is there an algorithm for combining the chunks or in the way in which they are ordered. I can only hold 2 items in my head at once so I think in linear terms. I do not know personally what it means to order things in parallel.

(linear thinking)
(parallel thinking)

#### xersevx

##### Member
140-160? Surely you got a digit with a confidence interval (Usually around 8-10 points), not to say you have to state it or anything. Anyways, welcome: we are your people, one of the first lessons I learned coming here is to understand people here are similar to you so don't treat them as you would the general population such as general disregard.
Okay, Will keep in mind

#### xersevx

##### Member
5 - 6 items , i do not know the max duration.
speed reduces as i add more items but its very fast.
it becomes even faster as i combine the items to be processed like a single item.

is it a test question ?, i dont get your point
By global metric, I simply meant the way in which you generalize / chunk items in parallel. Is there an algorithm for combining the chunks or in the way in which they are ordered. I can only hold 2 items in my head at once so I think in linear terms. I do not know personally what it means to order things in parallel.

(linear thinking)
(parallel thinking)
I see different layers of things as some function which can interface with each other through a function and i use a different kind of function to interface between the layers.

#### EndogenousRebel

##### We're all trying our best. Aren't we?
(Sorry if you interpret me as standoffish, it's kinda my thing, love you bb)
Would you mind sharing your age? I find IQ more interesting when that aspect of it is looked at "(mental age ÷ physical age) x 100 = IQ" Though mental age is a shaky concept, I think it gives a better idea one an idea of just how adept one is compared to their average contemporary, and how they would fare vs someone older than them. It's in general more flexible than IQ alone is what I mean. Other than this I feel most people aren't mature enough to adequately consider what IQ is and means, nor it's big proponent g factor.

Your model for how you think speaks to me in some way, but doesn't feel all that special, I think it is just basic statistical cross-sectional analysis with synthesis. I do this all the time, though I bet you would be waaay faster than me, as for me it's a mode that I switch into and tires me out after an hour or two.

How salty do you like your food?

#### Basilwarr

##### Redshirt
Hey,
I am a bit autistic, antisocial
I think in terms of images and pictures
My iq on mensa was around 140-160
I lack social skills due to I was brought up in a boarding school, isolated from the outer world
I am an INTx with means my personality is both INTP AND INTJ

I'll never be rude or ignorant on this forum
Thanks for having me.
Hello indeed,

I think I'm a bit dyslexic, antisocial
I think more in terms of metaphors
My IQ has really never been anything but above average, but I really think that was because I struggled to always figure out what the persons writing the tests were imagining was the most appropriate response, I could see too many potential ways of seeing the questions and answers...Thus making all of my guessing moments more like throwing darts in the dark with the board flying around. Still, I respect the numbers. Good to have that hanging from your belt...
As and INTP and 3 on the Enneagram I do not possess the deficiency in social skills but I can appreciate how someone who was cut off as it were, experienced some mild trauma perhaps, might have a few items to work through if they want to improve that skill in these more formative years.

Nice meeting you.

#### xersevx

##### Member
Your model for how you think speaks to me in some way, but doesn't feel all that special, I think it is just basic statistical cross-sectional analysis with synthesis.
I dont just think but see everything around me that way, its my current model to describe my switching between systems of control.
I dont have a picture of reality so i have to rely on such things so i dont drift off into chaos.
I like that you took time for interacting with me.

#### Elen

##### Cold and damp
Nobody is a "bit" autistic. You either are autistic or you are not. Are you autistic AND anti social or are you conflating the two things? Lots of autistic people are social. Being anti social and being autistic are not the same thing. I appologise for being direct. It is important to be clear and to keep our facts organized.

IQ tests are flawed, biased, and only quantify a small subsection of mental abilities. Having high IQ doesn't relate to being successful. In most applications it is meaningless. Unless it is an important part of how you view yourself. Is it?

Welcome.

#### xersevx

##### Member
Nobody is a "bit" autistic. You either are autistic or you are not. Are you autistic AND anti social or are you conflating the two things? Lots of autistic people are social. Being anti social and being autistic are not the same thing. I apologize for being direct. It is important to be clear and to keep our facts organized.

IQ tests are flawed, biased, and only quantify a small subsection of mental abilities. Having high IQ doesn't relate to being successful. In most applications it is meaningless. Unless it is an important part of how you view yourself. Is it?

Welcome.
I dont put labels on myself , but i find that others find it easy to understand if i point out some labels.
I could not care lass about those labels.
Am already successful but i see how anything can be uncertain.
This was said to me above ----------
"one of the first lessons I learned coming here is to understand people here are similar to you so don't treat them as you would the general population such as general disregard"

The bandwidth is too low i cannot explain every detail, i assume the other one to extract as much data as he can before replying.
If he cannot then we are incompatible for communication and should stop.

Your message seems like a general disregard to my Intro.
its not what i said its how you interpreted it and generalized it.

The whole internet seems that way now to me. Hypnotized by language
its not your fault or mine its the language we use is flawed, there is too much ambiguity and thats not all some people even use metaphors.

#### Rebis

##### Blessed are the hearts that can bend
Nobody is a "bit" autistic. You either are autistic or you are not. Are you autistic AND anti social or are you conflating the two things? Lots of autistic people are social. Being anti social and being autistic are not the same thing. I appologise for being direct. It is important to be clear and to keep our facts organized.

IQ tests are flawed, biased, and only quantify a small subsection of mental abilities. Having high IQ doesn't relate to being successful. In most applications it is meaningless. Unless it is an important part of how you view yourself. Is it?

Welcome.
There are severities in autism, I think the usage of "bit" is perfectly fine to quantify their level of autistic traits. Anti-social can exist independently of autism, I think they mean as they say.

If it is important for someone to view their IQ as meaningful so be it. Some people follow a path of perfectionism because they believe that they are better than others. In the actual real-world we benefit from a lot of these perfectionists as they take up the more difficult jobs in life, while others quite literally do absolutely nothing. What's all the hate really? If someone thinks their IQ is important then so be it. It is important, while not wholly representative of one's abilities. People that think they have great power often feel inclined to serve a suitable responsibility.

Some people think they're funny, and naturally that's based on real-life. They may not be as funny as they think but does it matter? In most cases nope. I'm not going to attack them like "Hey, you think being funny matters? You're not as funny as you think you are!" Live your life and let them live theirs. Unless they threaten you in some way existentially, like you think you have better cognitive abilities than them but they got the bigger number in an IQ test so you try and reconcile your perception of yourself by thinking something's wrong in the equation; IQ Tests are invalid.

IQ tests are valid within a domain. They don't measure intelligence wholly, but they are important to the factors they do measure: Speed, conceptualization, pattern recognition and matrix manipulation. If someone has a higher IQ than you then based on solely those factors measured in that IQ test: If you two face off on a question then the person with the higher IQ will generally conceptualize the answer faster than you. That's all there is to it.

#### xersevx

##### Member
If it is important for someone to view their IQ as meaningful so be it. Some people follow a path of perfectionism because they believe that they are better than others. In the actual real-world we benefit from a lot of these perfectionists as they take up the more difficult jobs in life, while others quite literally do absolutely nothing. What's all the hate really? If someone thinks their IQ
its so much controversial to talk about IQ, i just gave a simple intro that would let others understand me better but it seems like its forbidden to talk about IQ so ill stop i dont intend to offend any of you. the only reason i have that number on me is so i can cover up my insecurities about the things i told in my intro.
its not even important to me but whats important to me is to become smarter, better and more intelligent because thats the only way i find freedom of being myself and if that offends you i think we are done here then.

#### Rebis

##### Blessed are the hearts that can bend
If it is important for someone to view their IQ as meaningful so be it. Some people follow a path of perfectionism because they believe that they are better than others. In the actual real-world we benefit from a lot of these perfectionists as they take up the more difficult jobs in life, while others quite literally do absolutely nothing. What's all the hate really? If someone thinks their IQ
its so much controversial to talk about IQ, i just gave a simple intro that would let others understand me better but it seems like its forbidden to talk about IQ so ill stop i dont intend to offend any of you. the only reason i have that number on me is so i can cover up my insecurities about the things i told in my intro.
its not even important to me but whats important to me is to become smarter, better and more intelligent because thats the only way i find freedom of being myself and if that offends you i think we are done here then.
No one is offended, I'm surely not. I don't even know where you got the concept that I or someone else is offended. It's quite berating when you consider it, I by no means am offended by your existence for I don't know who you are. Everyone on this forum has the exact same approach to learning. Having said that, IQ won't get you far on this forum in the sense you'll easily outpace people's knowledge base here. I'm sure all of us here have higher-iqs than most of the general population and we all know outliers become less reliable with a higher standard deviation. If you've became accustomed to being the smartest dude in your class or whatever just know it won't translate here. You've jumped into a bigger strata so IQ becomes a lot less meaningful.

In the words of Dr.Dre:

"You can't make a ho a housewife"
We ain't no average ho or housewife

Super bonus points if anyone understands the reference above:

You'll need to learn a different way to approach a group of people. Some people mention IQ in domains where it simply doesn't matter. I will never care, nor need to know anyone's IQ if I'm discussing complex concepts if they are actively engaging with the concept at hand. IQ is more important for yourself than it is to others. Like, imagine if I told you I got an A+ in a test three years ago when we were discussing a completely unrelated topic.

Speaking from experience here, I know my IQ but I refuse on principle to give a number.
I have a social score of 915. It is not important for anyone to know my IQ if I am talking to them about concepts. Everything is knowledge-based so all they need to know if my knowledge is correct.

#### xersevx

##### Member
while not wholly representative of one's abilities
did i talk about all my abilities so how can you guys judge me over that.
if you think that IQ is not measure of all the abilities is it so hard your to consider that i might be on the same boat and whatever i said was to be just taken as it was said.
Everyone knows that IQ is not a full measure of ones abilities including me.

Do you indirectly want me to lay my whole life and abilities out in one small into.
because i think that would make a lot more mess as just this small thing did.

If you are unable to connect with a person living in the same era as you then what does it say about you.
I thought INTP were more intelligent, isnt it why we all are here because we have identified ourselves as INTP,
something different then others, so why go on saying so much about perfectionists and they taking greater responsibility

everything you do gives an idea of your abilities, if someone shares one of those things to you is that your first reaction, to say
"
We are very sorry but what you said only means that we dont know anything other then what you just said and what you said says you might not be successful or will take place of more responsibility.
lets be Pessimistic about what said
lets deny all other possibility's
lets judge you on this lets reply that what you said is what you really wanted to say because you might be dumb and wanted to say something else but said something else instead
"
ban me if you like but that is all i have seen till now

#### Rebis

##### Blessed are the hearts that can bend
while not wholly representative of one's abilities
did i talk about all my abilities so how can you guys judge me over that.
if you think that IQ is not measure of all the abilities is it so hard your to consider that i might be on the same boat and whatever i said was to be just taken as it was said.
Everyone knows that IQ is not a full measure of ones abilities including me.

Do you indirectly want me to lay my whole life and abilities out in one small into.
because i think that would make a lot more mess as just this small thing did.

If you are unable to connect with a person living in the same era as you then what does it say about you.
I thought INTP were more intelligent, isnt it why we all are here because we have identified ourselves as INTP,
something different then others, so why go on saying so much about perfectionists and they taking greater responsibility

everything you do gives an idea of your abilities, if someone shares one of those things to you is that your first reaction, to say
"
We are very sorry but what you said only means that we dont know anything other then what you just said and what you said says you might not be successful or will take place of more responsibility.
lets be Pessimistic about what said
lets deny all other possibility's
lets judge you on this lets reply that what you said is what you really wanted to say because you might be dumb and wanted to say something else but said something else instead
"
ban me if you like but that is all i have seen till now
Why are you arguing with me? I am debating the context which Elen is applying here.IQ isn't supposed to represent the whole, it is only measuring certain aptitudes like speed and mathematical/logical reasoning.
I'm saying it is important but not wholly representative of one's qualities. People tend to use a strawman when debating IQ, it goes like this:
1. IQ doesn't represent all facets of intelligence
2. IQ is not important

No, it's relevant within the domain it attempts to measure.

I don't understand what you're arguing against, what opinion do you think I'm trying to express?

No one is going to ban you. If you feel like we're antagonizing you then maybe, as you indicated with measuring one's ability it's not hard to imagine that maybe Elen is trying to measure your abilities by seeing how you can abstract the concept of intelligence versus IQ, how you can interpet their point and how you can form a rebuttal.

In Capitalised letters: I AM NOT TRYING TO ANTAGONIZE YOU.

#### xersevx

##### Member
I dont want to talk about all this, can you delete this thread ?

#### Elen

##### Cold and damp
Whatever happened to "I will never be rude or ignorant"?

No, no. I asked for clarification. If I was disregarding you I would have simply ignored you. Conflating being antisocial and being autistic is a misrepresentation of both communities. So, I asked if you are either one or both together.

My point about IQ tests is that they aren't very good at indicating intelligence. If you are so easily upset by talking a discussion of it's limitations then why bring it up? We talk about everything here. We tear everything down to tis component parts and then we argue over those. It is what we do.

IQ tests are proven to be very much biased toward test takers who are of the same social, racial, and economic class of the person who created the test. There are assumptions of what makes a person "smart" imbedded in an IQ test that doesn't represent all cultures. There are examples of IQ tests being used throughout history to weed out specific cultures or micro-cultures because of this. IQ tests simply aren't a very accurate test of...well anything. Too narrow in scope and too simplistic in application.

Finally, who said anything about banning? Breath kid. We aren't attacking you. We are having a discussion. It's a compliment that we considered your post something to discuss. Doesn't mean we won't break it down and disagree with you on things.

#### xersevx

##### Member
Doesn't mean we won't break it down and disagree with you on things
I do not have the time to break down and disagree about my intro.
I am not being rude or ignorant but being reasonable.

Could have done something better in this wasted time.

but i agree with you about the IQ tests and if you want to have a discussion over it, its already over.
i dont have a clue about the IQ tests i just shared it because i dont know what to
ill remember it next time, as i said i was brought up isolated from the outer world.

#### xersevx

##### Member
You'll need to learn a different way to approach a group of people.
Yes , will learn
Thanks

##### Evil Jew
I'll never be rude or ignorant on this forum
NEVER?

...how rude and ignorant.

#### xersevx

##### Member
This sucks its better if i stay on INTJ forum only bbye.

#### Rebis

##### Blessed are the hearts that can bend
This sucks its better if i stay on INTJ forum only bbye.
Yes, the problem is us not you.
I know your type. Aversion, running, non-confrontional, extremely sensitive.

#### Minuend

##### pat pat
If you're autistic you might not have the same relationship with words and semantics as others. Most people will judge and interpret you strongly based on the usage of those words. It's a communication issue. You are perceived a certain way based on how you speak and which words you use. It's not personal, people just respond to you based on how they perceive you to be based on what words you use. In this case I guess you come across as someone who think highly of themselves and are ignorant. You could either give up and go to other places, or use this oppurtunity as a challenge to learn more about yourself and how other people perceive you.

#### Serac

##### A menacing post slithers
I recall in English class in school I used the same sort of structure in a sentence i.e. along the lines of "never be rude or ignorant", and the teacher claimed this was wrong because I was supposedly supposed to write "never be rude nor ignorant". To this day that bothers me because logically speaking "never be rude or ignorant" unambiguously means that you are never [rude or ignorant], meaning you are never rude, never ignorant, and never both simultaneously.

this is the sort of shit I think about when I've had a couple of beers.

#### Rebis

##### Blessed are the hearts that can bend
Maybe we have to pick which one he will never be.

#### Minuend

##### pat pat
Maybe we have to pick which one he will never be.
Idk, maybe we are just cynical assholes with high expectations where we want young people in their early 20s to think the way we learned to do in our late 20s?

#### Rebis

##### Blessed are the hearts that can bend
Maybe we have to pick which one he will never be.
Idk, maybe we are just cynical assholes with high expectations where we want young people in their early 20s to think the way we learned to do in our late 20s?
We're the same age so I'm firmly out of that cohort.

Unless...
*Pulls fedora*
I am mentally, 49

#### Minuend

##### pat pat
Maybe we have to pick which one he will never be.
Idk, maybe we are just cynical assholes with high expectations where we want young people in their early 20s to think the way we learned to do in our late 20s?
We're the same age so I'm firmly out of that cohort.

Unless...
*Pulls fedora*
I am mentally, 49
We're the same age and grew up in the same shit environment. Here's to hoping the next generation don't have to suffer our retarded bullshit.

#### Rebis

##### Blessed are the hearts that can bend
Naw I mean I'm 22, unless you're 22, too. He's 22.

But yeah it be shit

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#### EndogenousRebel

##### We're all trying our best. Aren't we?
Pretty sure he identified with his IQ, we we're like nah that's not smart because X, he didn't like that, and left.

Strange how he felt persecuted/judged and then said he was going to a forum where he would more likely be judged (I'm sure Js dig the utility of IQ a lot.)

We should be mindful of this if we want the community to grow. Let's be careful and make sure people are co-dependently seeking stimulus with us before we attack a pillar of their person hood.

#### EndogenousRebel

##### We're all trying our best. Aren't we?
Probably should've mentioned the direct correlation with the amount of post you have and true IQ. Such a shame, he left us so soon.

#### peoplesuck

##### metaphorical jesus, take the metaphorical wheel
Let's be careful and make sure people are co-dependently seeking stimulus with us before we attack a pillar of their person hood.
Am I a bad person for laughing my ass off at this?
so intp

#### Serac

##### A menacing post slithers
lmao I didn't see the trajectory of thread until now. I think the Dr. Dre lyrics were the turning point.

what happened with "you are my people" and all that stuff, man

now we have a 140-160 IQ individual who defected to the INTJ-forum and who will hold a grudge against us in the upcoming INTP-vs-INTJ-post-coronavirus-apocalyptic world

#### Rebis

##### Blessed are the hearts that can bend
Pretty sure he identified with his IQ, we we're like nah that's not smart because X, he didn't like that, and left.

Strange how he felt persecuted/judged and then said he was going to a forum where he would more likely be judged (I'm sure Js dig the utility of IQ a lot.)

We should be mindful of this if we want the community to grow. Let's be careful and make sure people are co-dependently seeking stimulus with us before we attack a pillar of their person hood.
Do you think I was being intimidating? I wasn't arguing with him exactly but he kept responding to my comments as if they were directed at him and those comments were a response to Elen's comments. I think he interpreted my comments as relating directly to him when I was talking about why we don't need to vilify people who mention their iq. Just let them hold onto it with importance like any other quality. Abstraction, abstraction; ABSTRACTION! Maybe I was misinterpreted, Inex said I appeared to have sass in the past compared to now, the closest "sass" I've employed is just talking shit with Aru.

lmao I didn't see the trajectory of thread until now. I think the Dr. Dre lyrics were the turning point.

what happened with "you are my people" and all that stuff, man

now we have a 140-160 IQ individual who defected to the INTJ-forum and who will hold a grudge against us in the upcoming INTP-vs-INTJ-post-coronavirus-apocalyptic world
They are my people, I like bright sparks but I think it was rather rude to say you were leaving for another form. To announce your leave like you have power over other people's mental state. In the words of a facebook group: "This isn't an airport, no need to announce your departure". I like complexity, to which IQ facilitates with the rate of diverse interests you can accrue. IQ is a proxy for people that can exhibit complexity.

bye

#### Serac

##### A menacing post slithers
IQ is a proxy for how insecure you are about your own intelligence

I have an IQ of 94, suck on that

#### Elen

##### Cold and damp
Let's be careful and make sure people are co-dependently seeking stimulus with us before we attack a pillar of their person hood.
Am I a bad person for laughing my ass off at this?
so intp
Nah, I laughed to.

Well, fuck. I scared the kid away. Now I feel a little guilty. In all seriousness though if you can't take a discussion about IQ tests and how they might actually be kind of shit you won't survive long here.

But I was being a cold jerk and this is just an intro thread. I should have saved it for later.

#### Rebis

##### Blessed are the hearts that can bend
Let's be careful and make sure people are co-dependently seeking stimulus with us before we attack a pillar of their person hood.
Am I a bad person for laughing my ass off at this?
so intp
Nah, I laughed to.

Well, fuck. I scared the kid away. Now I feel a little guilty. In all seriousness though if you can't take a discussion about IQ tests and how they might actually be kind of shit you won't survive long here.

But I was being a cold jerk and this is just an intro thread. I should have saved it for later.
I like your spunk kid, in a fucked up round-about way. From seeing your posts you seem like you want to rip everyone a new asshole.
#savetheassholes

IQ is a proxy for how insecure you are about your own intelligence

I have an IQ of 94, suck on that
Nah man, you just wanna fuck with insecure big IQ boys by shitting on them when they expect you to be inferior. Deliver a catastrophic payload to their door. "A menacing post slithers".

Or maybe you take pride in humility, O so humble farmer:
I actually have an IQ of 64 and all of my abilities are actually me pushing myself to the limit, so I'm humbly more impressive than you. Tsk, I have 9 more years to reach your knowledge base, punk.

#### peoplesuck

##### metaphorical jesus, take the metaphorical wheel
Nah, I laughed to.
Good, at least we can be bad people together, that's worth something.
But I was being a cold jerk and this is just an intro thread. I should have saved it for later.
You will learn the ways
unless your iq is too low.

I bought one of those iq test packets, got halfway through it, got bored and did something else. I dont feel iq tests can accurately say how unintelligent I actually am.

#### Rebis

##### Blessed are the hearts that can bend
IQ is a proxy for how insecure you are about your own intelligence

I have an IQ of 94, suck on that
I'm actually retarded bro and I can count to 10 faster than you

#### Animekitty

##### baby marshmallow born today
IQ is a proxy for how insecure you are about your own intelligence

I have an IQ of 94, suck on that
@Rebis
I am not so low that I am weak on any tests.
What my problem is, is that I am imbalanced.
Imagine being really tall on one side of your body and really short on the other side.

Animekitties short side:

Animekitty's ability to sustain attention, concentrate, and exert mental control are a weakness relative to his nonverbal and verbal reasoning abilities. A relative weakness in mental control may make the processing of complex information more time-consuming for him, draining his mental energies more quickly as compared to others at his level of ability, and perhaps result in more frequent errors on a variety of learning or complex work tasks. (WM-95)

Processing speed is an indication of the rapidity with which Animekitty can mentally process simple or routine information without making errors. (PS-89)

Animekitties tall side:
(VC-120)
(PR-127)

Leg length and IQ (deviation)

(95*89)=93 Short IQ
(120*127)=123.5 Tall IQ

(123.5*93)=30.5 The difference between short and tall.

For example, adult male heights are on average 70 inches (5'10) with a standard deviation of 4 inches.

30 = 2 deviations
One leg is 8 inches shorter than the other. But I am still medium height IQ wise.