Are you on medication?

[lightspeed]

Among the medications that seem common for INTPs are antidepressants, benzos for anxiety, and various other head drugs. (as the SJ society thinks we need to be treated)

I am commonly prescribed antidepressants.

What are you on?

 

[Ermine]

Nothing! Well, except for cold medicine and pain relievers.

 

[Wisp]

Absolutely nothing! I am very greatful for my chronic good health!

 

[Vrecknidj]

No drugs here. Well, once in a while I have a little caffeine, multivitamin, or aspirin.



Dave

 

[mindovermatter]

just caffeine (from sodas-can't stand the taste of coffee) and goody's. was once prescribed anti-depressants during my first marriage but i flushed them after taking the first one. didn't like being a zombie. personal upheavals do send me into depression but so far not life-threatening- although there have been times i wasn't sure i could cope anymore. not only does depression come from a loss, but from the fact that i wasn't able to prevent it- so the guilt eats me alive.

 

[lightspeed]

These things were good for me.

I actually like being a zombie on SSRIs. Well, been in utter misery with depression for the past few years, so anything is better.

 

[Wisp]

<edit> Grateful </edit>

 

[loveofreason]

I know another INTP on anti-depressants. I've been prescribed them in the past but couldn't go through with taking them.

I'm starting to wonder what life would be like if I took medication, contemplating surrender, fantasising about what it must feel like to be happy. But then I think my melancholia defines me, who would I be without it? By whose standards am I ill?

I'm curious, lightspeed, do you feel you lost any part of your identity between your pre- and post-medication selves?

 

[lightspeed]

I'm curious, lightspeed, do you feel you lost any part of your identity between your pre- and post-medication selves?

I never associated my depression with my identity too much. Mainly, because my depression came long after. While the more potent depression medication of today affects your personality completely, every effect seemed desirable to me. Currently, I'm not on anything.

(It never made me less of what I thought to be good about myself, in other words.)

 

[Ermine]

I am so grateful that my parents decided that I don't need to be "treated" because of what I am. I imagine I'd be a very different person if I was constantly medicated for my personality "ailments".

I imagine that would be somewhat like the emotional scarring that kids undergo when they are falsely treated for ADD/ADHD. In most cases, I don't believe juvenile ADD/ADHD is a real disorder. Just an undesirable trait found in children. I imagine that there's a lot of inner conflict over whether or not it's right for them to be what they are naturally, that is, having a short attention span, being hyper and not paying attention to what adults believe is most important.

 

[Zeke Johnson]

Creative costs...

Taken from a system I developed whilst making games,

Depression is a serious perceived problem, in that you are unable to cope with life, I should know. But it is a natural response, and is generally higher among creative individuals, especially artists/musicians etc. Could depression be transformed into a mandorla?

The creative energy you produce, creates an equal amount of destructive energy. The same as the pleasure/pain spectrum or any spectrum in the time/space experience.

Depression can be the manifestation or result of creative endeavours, taken from my own personal experience, I've found after creative bouts, a equal period of depression occurs. Even after great periods of happiness, depression occurs.

Essentially the greater the high the greater the low. In relation to waveforms under the opposing rules of opposites.

Depression could be theoretically controlled by consciously dealing with destructive energies in a form of ritual, etc. Dissipating the accumulated shadow energy through creative imagination, rather than actualizing it in conscious reality.

Thanks for reading,

Zeke Johnson ( Ex-Captain )

 

[lightspeed]

Creative costs...

The creative energy you produce, creates an equal amount of destructive energy. The same as the pleasure/pain spectrum or any spectrum in the time/space experience.

Depression can be the manifestation or result of creative endeavours, taken from my own personal experience, I've found after creative bouts, a equal period of depression occurs. Even after great periods of happiness, depression occurs.

Essentially the greater the high the greater the low. In relation to waveforms under the opposing rules of opposites.

I thought about this post before going to sleep last night, and have decided that I find lots of truth in it.

 

[Yozuki]

Yozuki is not the medication the human mechanical. Yozuki is the self medicate the mind with medicate the mind of mind medication.

 

[Vrecknidj]

Yozuki is not the medication the human mechanical. Yozuki is the self medicate the mind with medicate the mind of mind medication.

Huh?

Dave

 

[Yozuki]

Huh?

Dave

My mental disorder is now my tool to bend to my will. My self aware and sentient mind is the ruler.

 

[Ermine]

Creative costs...

Taken from a system I developed whilst making games,

Depression is a serious perceived problem, in that you are unable to cope with life, I should know. But it is a natural response, and is generally higher among creative individuals, especially artists/musicians etc. Could depression be transformed into a mandorla?

The creative energy you produce, creates an equal amount of destructive energy. The same as the pleasure/pain spectrum or any spectrum in the time/space experience.

Depression can be the manifestation or result of creative endeavours, taken from my own personal experience, I've found after creative bouts, a equal period of depression occurs. Even after great periods of happiness, depression occurs.

Essentially the greater the high the greater the low. In relation to waveforms under the opposing rules of opposites.

Depression could be theoretically controlled by consciously dealing with destructive energies in a form of ritual, etc. Dissipating the accumulated shadow energy through creative imagination, rather than actualizing it in conscious reality.

Thanks for reading,

Zeke Johnson ( Ex-Captain )

Fascinating idea. It also made me realize that I have made my best art and music when I was feeling depressed or angry. Usually I'm not depressed at all. I'm overall content and have everything going for me. I don't know if that's because I combat the negative feelings before they manifest themselves, or if I'm just emotionally neutral half the time.

Anyway, I've often thought about the concept of creating my own personal chaos to feed on for inspiration, making my social life chaotic and tumultuous, making myself depressed, inducing euphoria, wrap myself in the chaos until it consumes me. The idea is nearly blasphemous, in that it's really dishonest, and it's emotional self-mutilation. But oh the art I'd be able to create... Dumb idea though. Why induce chaos when I'm going to go through it soon enough?

Am I making any sense at all, with the whole being the "architect" of my emotions in the name of creativity?

 

[Vrecknidj]

My mental disorder is now my tool to bend to my will. My self aware and sentient mind is the ruler.

Thank you for clarifying, I am not so proficient in deciphering some things.

Dave

 

[mm1991]

I have a phobia against medication.

 

[Wisp]

I agree. Medicine sucks unless it's absolutely necessary, or is tylenol.

 

[Ermine]

Yeah, I think I have a phobia of medications that make me lose control of myself, like recreational drugs, anesthesia, medications for mental disorders, etc.

 

[Wisp]

Yeah. I hate the idea of being completely unconcious... I don't even like sleeping.

 

[Ermine]

Yeah, it's so weird when I'm thinking when I'm starting to drift off to sleep and realizing that I'm losing it and that I can barely feel myself under the covers. It's like I drift away instead of drifting off to sleep.

Scary thought just thinking about it. And to think that it's so commonplace.

 

[tesseracter]

It actually freaks me out that *most* of my friends are taking some kind of medication! The age-range of my friends? They are all in their 30's. I am 37. I am the oddball not taking a single thing (thankfully). Most of their medications are anti-depressants and stuff for ADD and some stuff for anxiety.

 

[Wisp]

Yeah. Why can't people learn to use their minds effectively to quell these things before they get out of hand?

 

[Cabbo Pearimo]

No prescriptive drugs. And my mother's a nurse. I like sleeping. You're creative self, your unconscious mind, is more free during unconsciousness, obviously, and I can remember some pretty trippy dreams. Recently, I was at a sort of party in a tent. The next night I dreampt about being in the tent and seeing candles form into little wax people. Some toy-soldier looking fellows, some casual passer-by types, some business-men, and a blonde girl, who wasn't moving. The head ripped when I picked her up, and split into two identical heads, now made out of ballistics gel. They wouldn't go back on.



Trippy.



Anyway, if I'm depressed, which is a rarity but can happen sometimes anyway, I just think "don't do anything stupid, you might've regretted it later on". There's always a tomorrow and always a possibility for some weird and fascinating little something to come by and put your head back on.

 

[Wisp]

Yeah, tomorrow is the best defence against today.

 

[Cabbo Pearimo]

HEEEEAAAAL YEAH BOOOOYYYYYYYYY!!!!!

Sorry. Schizo out of the cage.

 

[Wisp]

@_@

 

[WildC]

You sure are hard at work for your postcount there, eh Wisp?

 

[Wisp]

Yes I am! I'm working on a grand, but a certain Cabbo keeps catching up to me...

 

[Cabbo Pearimo]

I've plenty of free time and no-where to spend it but here. By next week I'll be back at school though, so I'll say you'll beat me then.

 

[Ex-User (221)]

I was on antidepressants when I was younger and I had to go for councelling for a while but nothing worked so after a while they gave up and let me grow out of it in my own time. I was fine for about a year when I was 14 but it's come back lately. My aunt is a homeopath and she's convinced that meds just make everything worse, especially since my depression was triggered by a few specific events.
Ultimately, I havn't been anywhere near traditional medecine or doctors since I was about 7.

 

[Cabbo Pearimo]

Life happens, and the only thing you can do is get on with it.

 

[Ex-User (221)]

Come to think of it, I never wanted to take them. I remember when I was in hospital and I kept trying to run away because I couldn't stand being there. Unfortunately, I could never walk well enough to get down the stairs. Actually, it was fortunate because I probably would have died if they'd let me go....and when I was alowed go home I'd lock myself in my room and refuse to talk to anyone, so they had to send me back.

Looking back on it, it might have something to do with the hospital phobia I have now...

 

[Cabbo Pearimo]

I'd say that's at least a major factor. Damn, that sounds traumatic.

 

[Wisp]

I hate the smell of hospitals... And the bureaucracy...

 

[Cabbo Pearimo]

"Hey kids, it's time for modern bureaucracy in american hospitals!"


Wisp:- "It sucks."


"Now, children, let's see what someone who isn't a hippie thinks!"
"Well, I'm a happy consumer and, you know, I'm concerned about what my children consume..."

 

[Wisp]

Bureaucracy for little children!

 

[Linsejko]

I have a serious distaste for modern pharmacology & medical method in the states; my grandfather is a practicing pharmacist, and for several years I swayed between wanting to be a microbiologist, a neurologist with a speciality in brain anatomy, and general practioner.

Ultimately, I didn't even take pain killers the day after I broke my collar bone. I don't like drugs affecting who I am, and I don't trust this country's FDA to decide what is healthful. I almost died once because of blood thinners I was taking being poorly managed & dosed by a doctor (I didn't have a choice on those- this was after the collarbone, due to complications).

So no, no meds. I think modern psych theory & head medicine is completely off-the-wall, as all sciences & medical theories usually are in their infancies. Do you realize we still do manual hemisphere divisions?

I get nausea thinking about someone physically modifying my brain.

(Same people approve of & administer those psych drugs, you know...)

--

I have been clinically diagnosed with ADHD- that was when I was 17. The guy was very impressed at how well I seemed to have managed it. He offered me speed (basiaclly), but I didn't really want it. I just wanted to understand myself.

As a kid, they gave me Ritalin. I was off it by at least second grade, but my memories are fuzzy any time before that. Honestly, in 1st grade I was unbelievably bored. I remember totally not caring what the teacher said 100% off the time, getting a paper, finishing the work, and then ignoring her, off in my own thoughts. 100's and all A's were the only reality I knew.

So, of course, something was wrong with me. xD

At least I'm really good at swallowing pills, to this day. I can pop 3 horse pills dry, and have done 8 smaller pills at once (vitamins & the like).

That was rambling.

.L

 

[Cabbo Pearimo]

Nope, that was an interesting read. Funny, that's what I always think about ramblings. I'm going to go read a Hunter S Thompson book...

 

[Linsejko]

You know, I feel the same way.

Huh.

.L

 

[Cabbo Pearimo]

I just started reading 'the salmon of doubt' by Douglas Adams, which was the book beside fear and loathing. Luckily for me it's a collection of pre-humous ramblings of Adams'.

 

[Zero]

Pez

 

[Cabbo Pearimo]

Stick one in your mouth, get the tasty goodness, let it sink you, sink you, sink you deeper ooooh.

 

[Wisp]

I think my brain just got hitchhiker'd.

 

[Cabbo Pearimo]

I'm going wherever you're going. We can drive into the setting sun. and when we reach our destination, I can add you to the collection of bodies I have in my hut.

 

[Linsejko]

You know, hijacking is all good and fun in moderation but...

...in moderation....

(I mean, this one was basically dead already and all, but you're gonna kill the forum or something if you can't control yourselves. xD)

.L

 

[Cabbo Pearimo]

Don't worry, I'm not going to stop people from leaving opinions. By all means, everybody, voice yourselves. That's what the forum's all about. Information submitted by the 'public'.

 

[thirtyshackles]

Several. And I die a little more than I should every day. Everyone has a different price to pay for happiness; mine unfortunately affects my health.

Though, I'm glad to be in full posession of my breadth of emotions. I can't imagine living long on antidepressants - it would be too depressing.

 

[EditorOne]

I used to take a dim view of medication and medicine, but a bout with some kind of stress-related immune system collapse two years ago has mellowed my thinking somewhat. It was the first time in my life I understood what "convalescence" meant, it took three weeks to recover from something I'd have shrugged off 20 years ago. That's three weeks of enforced inactivity, and during the first part of it I was so sick I didn't eat for like five days. So now it's sort of "well, not good to take medications, but neither do I want to run the risk of another bout of boils, rashes, skin ulcers, hives, fever and utter dysfunctionality, so, yeah, let's try the meds." All they do that I notice is make me a little sleepy and, yes, have somewhat the same relaxing effect as a drink (no alcohol for me anymore, gave it up long ago because it was such a waster of perfectly good time.)

So this is something you can change your thinking about over time. Remember, I'm quite ancient compared to most of the active posters in here. :-)