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ADD vs. INTP

Curlijessi

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I was diagnosed with ADHD (mostly by myself. Im a physician assistant). But I also was tested and found to have mild ADD. But I got through high school, undergrad, and Medical school I guess by adapting or intelligence or both. I only qent to a psychiatrist after having difficulty with my first job as a PA because I couldnt remeber the details of what patients were saying and I would get overwhelmed and was inefficient in seeing patients. I ended up getting fired from my first job because i couldnt meet the eficiency requirements that they wanted. In retrospect I think that was pretty harsh because I had a major injury and was on crutches the whole time i worked there plus I was pumping (i was breastfeeding at the time).
I started medication around that time and was able to meet and exceed the patient quota towards the end but they still fired me. I was only there 3 months.
My second job, similar situation except I still work here 4 years later. I have been counceled several times for beong too "slow" with seeing patients (their standards are pretty high, I work on urgent care).
But more recenly, I stopped taking my medication because Im working on healing some other health issues and it hasnt made a major difference on my work efficiency.
Im starting to think either my mild ADD has proved or I never had ADD.
Most of my symptoms can also be explained by my personality tyoe and how I process information. For example, I used to lose things ALL the time. Like keys or my phone or useful items. Most of the time the object was either right in front of me or in an obscure location.
I cant remeber the details of what patients say because they dont matter. I can see the patterns of diesase and am very accurate on diagnosis. But i forget the details as soon as they were done woth the story.
This has to do with how the Ne works. Or so I have come to understand.
So now I just write down the details of what they say so I can use them when I dictate the note. I cant do a note without that.
Anyone else forget what people said but remember what they were taling about? Also if someone is boring, or takes forever to get to the point, I remember nothing of what they said.
Anyone else lose things like I do? Or forgetful? Im starting to think it is all just INTP traits. Im much like the "absent minded professor" who is forgetful about the daily practical things because their head is full of thoughts. This is why I thought I had ADD. But Im no longer sure.
 

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Don't fall into the trap of explaining away a diagnosis with MBTI. Diagnoses are far from a perfect science, but MBTI isn't at all a science and will leave you without answers for the rest of your days.

I share all the same attributes you do, being unable to process unengaging information. But if it's for your job, a normal person should be able to get to the point where they're able to do it because it is important even if it doesn't feel like it.

My advice is, if you're going to keep believing in MBTI, hold it as a separate explanation that is not mutually exclusive. Problems come when people start replacing other explanations with personality jargon. Stay flexible.
 

CatGoddess

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To provide something of a summary: yes, there are commonalities between ADD and typical xNxP behavior. This might lead to misdiagnosis (or mistyping, in fact). The line between personality difference and personality disorder can be somewhat thin, but it's generally agreed that it can be drawn where it significantly hampers the person in question's life.

In other words, if you can individually solve or deal with your ADD/INTP related scatterbrained-ness to the point that you are happy with your own functioning in that aspect, then, sure, it's just a personality divergence. But, if you can't succeed in resolving your issues in that realm, don't turn your back on professional help (medication, for instance) because you're convinced it's just MBTI type.
 

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Obviously I do not know you but from what you said I would say you don't. I also have all these "symptoms". Psychologist once wrote in my report that I "see complexity in simple things" and I would add "sees simplicity in complex systems". I also remember reading article somewehre that said people like this have difficulties of that kind because their brains are "wired" for complexity. For me in practice that means if I park a car I will not remember where it was... Are you same in that regard?
 

Curlijessi

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I forget where I parked only when its in a huge parking lot like a theme park or mall. I miss little details that cause problems at work but its bmgwrting much better. I havent made any mistakes in a while. Thats why I think im either adapting or ADD is improving. I just cant tell if ADD has influenced when I did the personality tests or not. I guess it doesnt matter but I have been thinking about this a lot lately and I really keep going back and forth about it and wanted some outside input from people who are INTP so I can separate the two. Im pretty sure I dont need medication because even when I dis did testing, he said it was very mild ADD. I have clearly been pretty functional so I adapt well.
I think my problems with efficiency come from me trying to analyze something that is supposed to be simple. I try to figuew out the patterns of disease and treat the underlying cause and not just throw medicines at people like a bandaid. So i look at it differenly and it slows me down but I dont think that part is ADD.
 

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I have unbelievably bad memory when it comes to stuff that isn't a part of some logical structure. For example people's names. Earlier today, actually, I was going to send an email to a colleague, and was sitting there thinking "what the fuck was this guy's name". I have worked with him for a year and interact with him on a daily basis.
 

crippli

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I tell people that to stay calm is more efficient. With great patience comes great reward. If they still don't get it. I can go into detail how complex minds work. But some people will still keep complaining. Short term solutions of long term problem is inefficiency. If they still don't get it, I might tell them to keep quiet, as they are disturbing me and will be the second worst thing they can do to induce inefficiency.

So you see. I wouldn't take their accusations of inefficiency at face value. When reviewed a year or 5 later. First then what solutions where more efficient is more clear.

Operating with concepts is really something else then in the moment. Efficiency isn't readily apparent. Sometimes it takes years to manifest. But what manifests, even a 1000 people of their immediate need for reward way of doing things wouldn't even come close the result that was achieved.

Do you follow up your patients? Maybe you can document that your way is more efficient then theirs. And thereby changing the whole system you are in. Wouldn't that be great?
 

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Don't fall into the trap of explaining away a diagnosis with MBTI. Diagnoses are far from a perfect science, but MBTI isn't at all a science and will leave you without answers for the rest of your days.

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My advice is, if you're going to keep believing in MBTI, hold it as a separate explanation that is not mutually exclusive. Problems come when people start replacing other explanations with personality jargon. Stay flexible.
OMG yes this!
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@Curlijessi
@Curlijessi

(I have full-blown ADDs, diagnosed. Fell into the trap of explaining it away with MBTI for years. Properly began to deal with it a few years ago, and it was the best thing I could do. Don’t look for something to blame it on, just work on improving yourself. Future-you will thank current-you...)
 

Curlijessi

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Happy,
Thanks for your input. I have been qorking on my ADD though nurtition and also helping other things heal. So I think my ADD is better because of that. My conclusion is that I have almost healed my ADD through inproving my diet (Autoimmune Paelo) and yoga, meditation, and supplements (especially iodine). So now the ADD is way less bothersome and I feel more like a better functioning self.
 
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