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Old 16th-September-2009, 11:24 PM   flow's time 16th-September-2009, 05:24 PM    #1
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Default The Holy Grail of the Unconscious

Carl Jung has a book that is about to finally be published, here is the story:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/ma...ef=global-home

In the Red Book, after Jung’s soul urges him to embrace the madness, Jung is still doubtful. Then suddenly, as happens in dreams, his soul turns into “a fat, little professor,” who expresses a kind of paternal concern for Jung.

Jung says: “I too believe that I’ve completely lost myself. Am I really crazy? It’s all terribly confusing.”

The professor responds: “Have patience, everything will work out. Anyway, sleep well.”

I will be reading this book, to say the least.
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Old 16th-September-2009, 11:58 PM   Android's time 16th-September-2009, 03:58 PM    #2
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Jung's Zarathustra?

Sounds infinitely interesting.
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Old 17th-September-2009, 12:03 AM   Venture's time 16th-September-2009, 04:03 PM    #3
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Oooo very interesting


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Old 17th-September-2009, 12:13 AM   RobertJ's time 16th-September-2009, 07:13 PM    #4
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Recently I've been contemplating reading some of Jung's work, I just don't know where to begin (what book to start with). Anyone have a suggestion as to where would be a good starting point?
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Old 17th-September-2009, 12:17 AM   flow's time 16th-September-2009, 06:17 PM    #5
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The first one I read was 'Man and His Symbols'. I'm not sure if that is the appropriate starting place though.
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Old 17th-September-2009, 12:54 AM   Vrecknidj's time 16th-September-2009, 07:54 PM    #6
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Old 17th-September-2009, 05:45 AM   Reverse Transcriptase's time 16th-September-2009, 09:45 PM    #7
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I started reading "Memories, Dreams, Reflections", which is kind of Jung's autobiography. It was a little slow, but I may revisit it in preparation of the Red Book.
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Old 17th-September-2009, 08:10 PM   Android's time 17th-September-2009, 12:10 PM    #8
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With Jung, I'm not sure there is an appropriate starting point. I think I first read Psychology and Religion. I'd say you can start pretty much anywhere.. his work is pretty accessible.
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Old 17th-September-2009, 08:27 PM   Cogwulf's time 17th-September-2009, 08:27 PM    #9
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I want to read this book, but it costs £95.00
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Old 26th-September-2009, 02:11 PM   wadlez's time 26th-September-2009, 11:41 PM    #10
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Read "essential jung" available second hand at www.betterworldbooks.com
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Old 26th-September-2009, 10:13 PM   Dormouse's time 26th-September-2009, 10:14 PM    #11
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I started reading "Memories, Dreams, Reflections", which is kind of Jung's autobiography. It was a little slow, but I may revisit it in preparation of the Red Book.
I'm actually reading that right now. It's my first Jung book, and I do find it a little confusing, though fascinating.
I dunno if it's the best place to start, but at least now I have a list of titles for once I finish it.
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Old 8th-October-2009, 05:43 AM   Kidege's time 7th-October-2009, 11:44 PM    #12
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Dragons! He saw dragons! And angels, and "Dei sapientia in mysterio quaea ab condita...", if I'm reading that correctly.

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Old 15th-October-2009, 12:12 PM   Beat Mango's time 15th-October-2009, 10:13 PM    #13
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I asked about it today at the bookstore... should be arriving in the next few days. I walked out with Thus Spoke Zarathustra instead - it's really a bit embarassing that I haven't read it in it's entirety, given I'm such a Nietzsche fanboy.
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A starting book for Jung... I would say Man and His Symbols is a good one since it's a vulgarisation book written at the end of his life, with the purpose of rendering his ideas accessible to the general public. Memories, Dreams, Reflections is good but is more about the man himself than about his theories. So it depends on what you're looking for.

And as far as the Red Book, God, I'm SO excited about this. I only read about it today (bit late, I know) and so I won't be able to get it until december when amazon has replenished its stock (ah, living in France!) but I just can't wait. His illustrations look incredible too. I just became hysterical when I read the new york times's article... Psychology, art, spirituality, all in one.... Aaaahhhh...
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$290AUD! I thought I'd be able to walk awsy with it for a lobster ($20 note)
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Old 29th-October-2009, 08:25 AM   Beat Mango's time 29th-October-2009, 06:25 PM    #16
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Reading the massive thing at a bookshop right now - envy me!
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Old 29th-October-2009, 08:30 AM   flow's time 29th-October-2009, 02:31 AM    #17
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You asshole! How is it thus far?
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Old 29th-October-2009, 09:10 AM   Da Blob's time 29th-October-2009, 03:10 AM    #18
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BTW did you all look at some of the images - They seemed so Tarot-like to me...

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Yes tarot-like indeed. Typically archetypal.

@Flow: I only read a little, but it's fascinating. It really feels like getting a direct view into Jung's psyche, conversations between various spirits (inner voices). It reminds me a lot of the processes that I and I imagine most intps go through when formulating their beliefs. One thing: the original text, which is included in the publication, is not written in English - I don't know why I was surprised by that.
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