MBTI Types and Their True Desires?

Enne · 1st-July-2009, 02:52 PM

ENTp, ESTp => to be loved
INTj, INFj => to be healthy
ESFj, ESTj => to be perfect
ISFp, INFp => to understand
ENFj, ENTj => to be wealthy
ISTj, ISFj => to believe
ESFp, ENFp => to know
INTp, ISTp => to love

I found this while browsing another MBTI forum, and was a little surprised / curious about what it entailed. This is basically a list of all the types and what they(we?) really want. I'm assuming it goes beyond the obvious likes / dislikes of the temperaments, but do you agree with this? esp the one for INTPs (to love)?

Beat Mango · 1st-July-2009, 02:59 PM

You visit other MBTI forums?

They seem silly to me, whittling down a whole type (in fact two types) to one lone desire. In saying that, I do have a strong desire to love so maybe there's something there.

zephryi · 1st-July-2009, 03:51 PM

Are you sure it's MBTI? The type are formatted as in Socionics theory. If that's the case, it could actually be "to love" or "to be healthy" due to the argument over a J/P switch for introverted types when converting MBTI type to Socionics type, as J/P in socionics indicates the dominant function rather than the extroverted function if I remember correctly.

It seems to be that these are based on an inferior 4th function.

Taking these:
INTj, INFj => to be healthy
INTp, ISTp => to love

INTj or LII has a function order of Ti Ne Fi Se Fe Si Te Ni
INFj or EII has a function order of Fi Ne Ti Se Te Si Fe Ni
INTp or ILI has a function order of Ni Te Si Fe Se Fi Ne Ti
ISTp or SLI has a function order of Si Te Ni Fe Ne Fi Se Ti

Latro · 1st-July-2009, 04:03 PM

Based on the way those are written, with the lowercase p and j, that sounds like socionics, which is not related to MBTI in any real way.

Gah beaten to it...

Fedayeen · 2nd-July-2009, 01:32 AM

ignoring the 2 posters above me

The intp one doesn't fit me

Artifice Orisit · 2nd-July-2009, 02:06 AM

I can't remember off the top of my head the exact reason for this, but whatever it is that someone wants most is more often than not the one thing they’re least capable of getting. In light of this and the typically guarded nature of an INTP it doesn’t seem implausible that "to love" is a desire of particular potency to INTPs.

Although "to understand" would seem to be the most influential desire in my life.

Toad · 2nd-July-2009, 02:09 AM

I would say I disagree, with the INTP one anyway. I would say the INTP's true desire is to create.

phantome · 2nd-July-2009, 02:15 AM

Idk....I disagree. I would rather "be loved" than "love"....but maybe that's just me =]

Toad · 2nd-July-2009, 02:18 AM

or maybe...to be appreciated for our ideas?

Kuu · 2nd-July-2009, 02:53 AM

In case it isn't socionics... I think they mixed up the last two pairs. Makes more sense for ESFP/ENFP to love and INTP/ISTP to know...

motrhead · 2nd-July-2009, 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King of Crabs

I would say the INTP's true desire is to create.

Quote:

Originally Posted by King of Crabs

or maybe...to be appreciated for our ideas?

I agree 100% with both of these answers. As much as I do want to love and be loved, my reason for being is to create, invent, research and solve problems. McGyver is my hero. I love thinking on my feet, and being the one to find a solution to a problem is the greatest rush I know. This is one of the few areas where I am really competitive. Well, that and trivia. I know I could kick that Ken guy's ass on Jeopardy...

Zero · 8th-July-2009, 11:26 AM

Hmmmm.... I want some person to come along who will actually appeal to my one of my odd fetishes. Is that to love?

I do want to create, but ultimately I do not want to feel like a failure and despair. I don't exactly want to succeed to the fullest degree, I just don't want to fail miserably...

I want to create, improve or see the arise of something that works better. I often think I'm not an INTP, rather it was the only type I could squeeze into. Actually, I think this frequently...

These days I would probably give anything to be anything that would give me some decisive direction and future.

I should make a rule not to be posting on forums at 4 am in the morning. When I get tired, I start to lose my mind without realizing it.

brain enclosed in flesh · 8th-July-2009, 05:32 PM

My true desire is to know what is my true desire.

Toad · 8th-July-2009, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brain enclosed in flesh

My true desire is to know what is my true desire.

LOL

LucielaMinerva · 9th-July-2009, 08:14 AM

huh? to... love???

Nuu... my purpose here is to understand... then help those who cannot and make a living out of it, at a fair price, of course, while I use that to fund my desire to understand other things, lol.

such is life =|

Brain: hahahahahahaha!

1st-July-2009, 02:52 PM	Enne's time 1st-July-2009, 02:52 PM #1
Enne Consistently Inconsistent Join Date: May 2009 Location: ;) Posts: 499	MBTI Types and Their True Desires? ENTp, ESTp => to be loved INTj, INFj => to be healthy ESFj, ESTj => to be perfect ISFp, INFp => to understand ENFj, ENTj => to be wealthy ISTj, ISFj => to believe ESFp, ENFp => to know INTp, ISTp => to love I found this while browsing another MBTI forum, and was a little surprised / curious about what it entailed. This is basically a list of all the types and what they(we?) really want. I'm assuming it goes beyond the obvious likes / dislikes of the temperaments, but do you agree with this? esp the one for INTPs (to love)? __________________ yawn.

1st-July-2009, 02:59 PM	Beat Mango's time 2nd-July-2009, 12:59 AM #2
Beat Mango Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,312	Re: MBTI Types and Their True Desires? You visit other MBTI forums? They seem silly to me, whittling down a whole type (in fact two types) to one lone desire. In saying that, I do have a strong desire to love so maybe there's something there. __________________ My blog: http://www.quotablequips.com For in much wisdom is much grief, and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow...

1st-July-2009, 03:51 PM	zephryi's time 1st-July-2009, 10:51 AM #3
zephryi Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 106	Re: MBTI Types and Their True Desires? Are you sure it's MBTI? The type are formatted as in Socionics theory. If that's the case, it could actually be "to love" or "to be healthy" due to the argument over a J/P switch for introverted types when converting MBTI type to Socionics type, as J/P in socionics indicates the dominant function rather than the extroverted function if I remember correctly. It seems to be that these are based on an inferior 4th function. Taking these: INTj, INFj => to be healthy INTp, ISTp => to love INTj or LII has a function order of Ti Ne Fi Se Fe Si Te Ni INFj or EII has a function order of Fi Ne Ti Se Te Si Fe Ni INTp or ILI has a function order of Ni Te Si Fe Se Fi Ne Ti ISTp or SLI has a function order of Si Te Ni Fe Ne Fi Se Ti

1st-July-2009, 04:03 PM	Latro's time 1st-July-2009, 11:03 AM #4
Latro Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 756	Re: MBTI Types and Their True Desires? Based on the way those are written, with the lowercase p and j, that sounds like socionics, which is not related to MBTI in any real way. Gah beaten to it...

2nd-July-2009, 01:32 AM	Fedayeen's time 1st-July-2009, 05:32 PM #5
Fedayeen Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,036	Re: MBTI Types and Their True Desires? ignoring the 2 posters above me The intp one doesn't fit me

2nd-July-2009, 02:06 AM	Artifice Orisit's time 2nd-July-2009, 01:06 PM #6
Artifice Orisit Formerly Cognisant Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 4,451	Re: MBTI Types and Their True Desires? I can't remember off the top of my head the exact reason for this, but whatever it is that someone wants most is more often than not the one thing they’re least capable of getting. In light of this and the typically guarded nature of an INTP it doesn’t seem implausible that "to love" is a desire of particular potency to INTPs. Although "to understand" would seem to be the most influential desire in my life.

2nd-July-2009, 02:09 AM	Toad's time 1st-July-2009, 06:09 PM #7
Toad True King of Mushroomland!!! Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,781	Re: MBTI Types and Their True Desires? I would say I disagree, with the INTP one anyway. I would say the INTP's true desire is to create. __________________ Find yourself and then help others find themselves.

2nd-July-2009, 02:15 AM	phantome's time 1st-July-2009, 06:16 PM #8
phantome connecting that which cannot be connected Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: my imagination :) Posts: 278	Re: MBTI Types and Their True Desires? Idk....I disagree. I would rather "be loved" than "love"....but maybe that's just me =]

2nd-July-2009, 02:18 AM	Toad's time 1st-July-2009, 06:18 PM #9
Toad True King of Mushroomland!!! Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,781	Re: MBTI Types and Their True Desires? or maybe...to be appreciated for our ideas? __________________ Find yourself and then help others find themselves.

2nd-July-2009, 02:53 AM	Kuu's time 1st-July-2009, 08:53 PM #10
Kuu an alchemist in a gilded (c)age Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Jurassic Park Posts: 2,432	Re: MBTI Types and Their True Desires? In case it isn't socionics... I think they mixed up the last two pairs. Makes more sense for ESFP/ENFP to love and INTP/ISTP to know... __________________ There is no ugliness, only strange beauty. It is change, continuing change, inevitable change, that is the dominant factor in society today. No sensible decision can be made any longer without taking into account not only the world as it is, but the world as it will be. — Asimov Those people who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do. — Asimov A sane person to an insane society must appear insane. — Vonnegut

8th-July-2009, 11:26 AM	Zero's time 8th-July-2009, 11:26 AM #12
Zero The Fiend Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 894	Re: MBTI Types and Their True Desires? Hmmmm.... I want some person to come along who will actually appeal to my one of my odd fetishes. Is that to love? I do want to create, but ultimately I do not want to feel like a failure and despair. I don't exactly want to succeed to the fullest degree, I just don't want to fail miserably... I want to create, improve or see the arise of something that works better. I often think I'm not an INTP, rather it was the only type I could squeeze into. Actually, I think this frequently... These days I would probably give anything to be anything that would give me some decisive direction and future. I should make a rule not to be posting on forums at 4 am in the morning. When I get tired, I start to lose my mind without realizing it.

8th-July-2009, 05:32 PM	brain enclosed in flesh's time 8th-July-2009, 10:32 AM #13
brain enclosed in flesh Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: need to get out Posts: 562	Re: MBTI Types and Their True Desires? My true desire is to know what is my true desire.

9th-July-2009, 08:14 AM	LucielaMinerva's time 9th-July-2009, 04:14 PM #15
LucielaMinerva Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: The land where a merlion is the country's official mascot. I mean, c'mon. Use a flower or something. Posts: 89	Re: MBTI Types and Their True Desires? huh? to... love??? Nuu... my purpose here is to understand... then help those who cannot and make a living out of it, at a fair price, of course, while I use that to fund my desire to understand other things, lol. such is life =\| Brain: hahahahahahaha! __________________ [Playing russian roulette with insanity] Introverted (I) 58.97% Extroverted (E) 41.03% Intuitive (N) 58.14% Sensing (S) 41.86% Thinking (T) 83.87% Feeling (F) 16.13% Perceiving (P) 62.5% Judging (J) 37.5% (because I think similarminds is so much more accurate) E5/8, w4/7 (meh) sloan RLUEI; sloan+ xlUE\|I\|; primary Inquisitive; X(50%)L(60%)U(70%)E(80%)I(86%)

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