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Old 18th-June-2009, 11:07 AM   Staywhatyouare's time 18th-June-2009, 03:07 AM    #1
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I was thinking about this today, and came to the conclusion that in general the effects of weed on my mind can be summarized pretty well by saying that it reverses each of my functions.

Introverted thinking becomes extroverted thinking. Instead staying in my head, I tend to be more comfortable and almost eager to speak my mind and go through my thought processes verbally.

Extroverted intuition becomes introverted....this one is a little harder to describe but I think its that rather than focusing on using outside information to think about new possibilities.. I instead tend to think about existing information and what its implications for the future are.

Introverted sensing to extroverted is pretty easy....sound, taste,touch,smell..all of these senses become much more intense and interesting. I focus on this rather than processing sensory data internally.

And then there's feeling..which I think is the most interesting besides thinking. Becoming an introverted feeler is a very rewarding experience. Being able to identify my emotions clearly and connect with others an on emotional level is probably one of the things I like most about smoking.

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Old 19th-June-2009, 12:18 AM   snowqueen's time 19th-June-2009, 12:19 AM    #2
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It accentuates the procrastination too much so we end up doing even less. At least that was my experience. Made music sound fab though.
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Old 19th-June-2009, 01:15 AM   flow's time 18th-June-2009, 07:15 PM    #3
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Introverted Intuition definitely comes out, I love it. There is no better drug. I almost made a thread on Marijuana this week myself. I was going to say that Intuitive types seem to react much more positively to the drug, whereas Sensory types don't get any of the great effects (boosted intuition in many cases). I honestly feel bad for anyone who hasn't gotten to smoke weed in the comfort of great friends and music. It's my favorite past time. However, you can become quite content when you're high, so if you got shit to do...do it before you smoke. Responsibility matters! LEGALIZE IT!
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Old 19th-June-2009, 01:27 AM   Toad's time 18th-June-2009, 05:27 PM    #4
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Yup, everything you said is right. The sad part is that we need the weed to bring these things out. If we could only develop our selves enough to bring out these qualities without smoking weed.

I used to smoke A LOT of weed. Like 4-5 joints a day. I loved how creative it made me. It seems though, when you get older and have more responsibilities that the weed makes you kind of depressed. I only smoke it now when I know I have nothing to do and am stress free.

I remember though, when I smoked it, me and my friends would come up with the craziest inventions and business ideas.

I had this one idea, "Weed Grower Insurance". LoL.
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Old 19th-June-2009, 04:34 AM   Staywhatyouare's time 18th-June-2009, 08:34 PM    #5
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Yup, everything you said is right. The sad part is that we need the weed to bring these things out. If we could only develop our selves enough to bring out these qualities without smoking weed.

I used to smoke A LOT of weed. Like 4-5 joints a day. I loved how creative it made me. It seems though, when you get older and have more responsibilities that the weed makes you kind of depressed. I only smoke it now when I know I have nothing to do and am stress free.

I remember though, when I smoked it, me and my friends would come up with the craziest inventions and business ideas.

I had this one idea, "Weed Grower Insurance". LoL.
Haha yea its really weird. This summer I'm working full time at this marketing company and living in a house with 6 close friends. After my first week at the job, I realized I could easily come into work high and no one would notice. I tested it out, and the results were great. I was much more outgoing, relaxed, and as long as I didn't smoke too much it didn't prevent me from doing my work at all. One of my roommates claims that smoking a miniscule bowl in the morning before work makes me a stoner...but if I'm doing it because it makes me a more productive/creative person and gives me motivation is it really that bad?
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Old 19th-June-2009, 04:51 AM   Toad's time 18th-June-2009, 08:51 PM    #6
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Well weed makes me sleepy...So I wouldn't be able to go to work high. But more power to you if you can.

Just remember most people aren't as open minded about weed though. Especially in the states.
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Old 19th-June-2009, 11:03 AM   Staywhatyouare's time 19th-June-2009, 03:03 AM    #7
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Well weed makes me sleepy...So I wouldn't be able to go to work high. But more power to you if you can.

Just remember most people aren't as open minded about weed though. Especially in the states.
Oh yeah, I'm definitely aware of that. I actually find it kind of satisfying in a way being able to go to work high and be productive and not have anyone else have any idea that I'm high.
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Old 19th-June-2009, 11:06 AM   Staywhatyouare's time 19th-June-2009, 03:06 AM    #8
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Also, I agree with you that it is unfortunate that we need to resort to weed to bring these things out. Have you found any other things that help with this?
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Old 19th-June-2009, 01:57 PM   Agent Intellect's time 19th-June-2009, 08:57 AM    #9
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i've never experienced increased creativity, or even happiness or giddiness, from weed. the only affect it really has on me is that i became a lot more spaced out then i usually am. my mind will run off on tangents about stupid little things and i lose track of reality and forget how my mind had ever started down the path its on (this happens when i'm not high sometimes too, but it happens constantly when i am high).
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Old 19th-June-2009, 08:20 PM   Waterstiller's time 19th-June-2009, 12:20 PM    #10
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I've had to quit. I want to say that it might enhance my shadow functions, but that's not exactly a good thing anymore. It actually triggered my chronic depersonalization and derealization. Whenever I smoke I also become depressed for about a month or two afterwards.

It's a shame because my closest friends are INFP's who are huge stoners and my experiences with weed nearly caused a panic attack whenever I was around people who were high. It's much better now that I've realized that they do it so they don't have to feel everything and they have more control (at least the INFP's). I feel they do it to be more logical in working out their issues and to stop feeling as intently for awhile.
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Old 20th-June-2009, 04:31 AM   Jordan~'s time 20th-June-2009, 04:31 AM    #11
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Paranoia and reggae, I should think.
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Old 20th-June-2009, 06:41 AM   Citizen X's time 20th-June-2009, 06:41 AM    #12
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Yup, everything you said is right. The sad part is that we need the weed to bring these things out.
Anything that fucks up the natural workings of the brain is plastic and has no value, at least for me.

So yes, weed is fantastic and what not, but the effects are just your brain being screwed by foreign chemicals and I don't know about you, but I don't like the idea of depending on external sources to obtain a boost I might need from time to time.

That said I once tried magic mushrooms inside a sensory deprivation tank and I had a very bizarre experience of almost cosmic proportions. But it was all in my head.
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Old 20th-June-2009, 10:10 AM   snowqueen's time 20th-June-2009, 10:10 AM    #13
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That said I once tried magic mushrooms inside a sensory deprivation tank and I had a very bizarre experience of almost cosmic proportions. But it was all in my head.
I did a lot of hallucinogens in my late teens/early 20s on top of smoking a huge amount of dope in various forms. Apart from feeling deep regret at messing up my first go at university as a result of being a stoner, I am also convinced that it was responsible for me losing my eidetic memory - a rare gift.

The other thing is that as you say, Citizen X, however extraordinary the experiences and 'revelations' might be, you always have to come down and live in the real world. Hence the reason that people who did lots of drugs in their late teens and early 20s are quite immature - arrested development. At a time when other non-druggie peers were learning how to cope with study, work and adult relationships, I was off tripping out in my head, imagining I was having meaningful relationships with people but in fact it set me back by about 10 years and I feel like I've been playing catch-up ever since.

I know lots of people smoke dope and get on with their lives, but I think the INTP, with our propensity for living inside our heads, is particularly susceptible to disengaging from reality and missing out on vital social learning.
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'Introverted thinking becomes extroverted thinking. Instead staying in my head, I tend to be more comfortable and almost eager to speak my mind and go through my thought processes verbally.'

Dude same here, I'm almost always extremely talkative while on it. My friends from highschool and roommate in college used to always tell me that. Nowadays I'm just extremely talkative (as long as I'm in a good mood, which is most of the time).


When I was younger my introverted intuition was greatly enhanced. But nowadays I notice my extraverted intuition benefits from it a lot too.

'Introverted sensing to extroverted is pretty easy....sound, taste,touch,smell..all of these senses become much more intense and interesting. I focus on this rather than processing sensory data internally.'

That's why life's so fun on it. I'd like to say that everything is in high definition.
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Old 27th-June-2009, 06:45 AM   motrhead's time 26th-June-2009, 10:45 PM    #15
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Paranoia and reggae, I should think.
I may be guilty of being the pot calling the kettle black...or vice versa or something , but in my experience marijuana has it's down side.
It really does trigger paranoia in some people. I have a family member that will vouch for that.
Being a self control freak, I always fight to maintain control, so getting high was never *completely* enjoyable for me. A mild buzz was fun, but beyond that could be bad. I did the smart thing and stopped when I was nineteen, but I still believe four or five years of occasional use was enough to have a negative effect on my memory. I can remember hallucinating and not being able to get up and walk, but I was still fully aware and in control of my conscious mind. I am the same when I drink, and I *will not* pass out. I remain fully aware and maintain my normal judgement. Luckily, this good judgement has kept me out of jail (back when I was nineteen) when friends have gone to do something stupid.
Thank goodness I only drink occasionally and in small amounts since becoming an adult.
I am just as talkative and outgoing after three or four beer as I would be high, but I'm still not an extrovert. For some reason I'm a cheap drunk on beer, but I can drink hard liquor all night...which I don't for the sake of my liver. I really do like beer though.
Seriously people, at the risk of sounding like someones dad (which I am); pot is not as innocuous as it seems, and that has nothing to do with legal issues. Some people may only get gradually dumber and more forgetful, but others can develop serious psychiatric problems.
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Anything that fucks up the natural workings of the brain is plastic and has no value, at least for me.

So yes, weed is fantastic and what not, but the effects are just your brain being screwed by foreign chemicals and I don't know about you, but I don't like the idea of depending on external sources to obtain a boost I might need from time to time.

That said I once tried magic mushrooms inside a sensory deprivation tank and I had a very bizarre experience of almost cosmic proportions. But it was all in my head.
Perhaps you could elaborate on the sensory deprivation tank a little more. How did you happen upon it? Was it a friends or...? What, if any, were the lasting benefits from the experience?
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Old 1st-July-2010, 12:58 PM   telepathink's time 1st-July-2010, 12:58 PM    #17
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Anything that fucks up the natural workings of the brain is plastic and has no value, at least for me.

So yes, weed is fantastic and what not, but the effects are just your brain being screwed by foreign chemicals and I don't know about you, but I don't like the idea of depending on external sources to obtain a boost I might need from time to time.

That said I once tried magic mushrooms inside a sensory deprivation tank and I had a very bizarre experience of almost cosmic proportions. But it was all in my head.
Not sure I concur here. This idea of being selfsuficient and not depended on external chemicals might sounds brave and like the right way and of course there is nothing wrong with it but I see this as a bit naive. You eat lots of chemicals everyday that you need in order to survive. Plants like corn and wheat provide you with the crucial resources for your body, it enables you to think and experience this world as a human being. The food provide you with the precursors to other chemicals your body builds. You can't live without it. You might argue, that psychedelics and food are different things and I would have to agree. But they have a lot in common - just think of it from this new perspective for a while.
Eating a fresh fruit full of vitamins and sugars is a perfect boost, you don't need to be ashamed to be reliable on external sources. We are living in symbiosis with other life forms - we can't live without them, that's what we are, a part of a larger organism.

I agree that introducing a foreign chemical to your system should not be taken lightly. It has many drawbacks. And now I am talking about habitual use. There is nothing wrong with choosing to drink coffee every day. Its just a bit tricky. Habbits are awefuly hard to abandon.
But let's leave addiction aside.

The important thing I'd like to question is the implication of your last sentence: "But it was all in my head.". I mean, what did you think? Everything is in your head. Your experience is always subjective supported only by your senses, your perception.
Or are you suggesting that the state of consiousness under psychedelics is not authentic? Why not? This could be a long discussion because this subject is just too complex and it would bring us to admitting that we really don't know much about the brain and how does the consciusness work or what does it even mean to be conscious.
So I don't really want to go into this and instead take a pragmatic approach. Some of these experiences could be quite helpfull, it can ignite energies and thoughts in you that could be beneficial. If used wisely as a tool, these foreign chemicals can help you. Like teachers do. What's wrong with a helpful hint or lets say a good lesson. Again, there is no shame in being thought something by an external source.
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Old 1st-July-2010, 04:07 PM   Adamastor's time 1st-July-2010, 01:07 PM    #18
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Not sure, but I think that the things I put in bold are not well seen for many in the scientific world...

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Especially with the vitamins, etc, it is a matter of dosage, now comparing with weed does the substances responsible for the benefits, cool effects or something like that are, well, dosage in a way that does fucks with your body? If so, cool! But the vitamins are necessary for our body and the extra thing (weed - fruit ) is not, at least if there are something that is in fact necessary for our body, it probably is supplied in enough quantity from other sources, because there are people who do pretty well without weed for life...

About symbiosis, I believe it is pretty much the question of necessity != self-induced-necessity (which is similar to addiction) and to not expose your self to lethal, or permanently prejudicial quantity of "chemical" (this is unnecessary) substances (vitamins, proteins, etc...).

That said, IMHO, the latter bold statement is pretty fallacious, especially when related to the first one.

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Sometime I am going to look at it in deep, but even though there are people who this bold statement is true, in fact excessive drinking of coffee is prejudicial. Now, of course there is a difference: drinking a cup of coffee per day, is not as "dangerous" as drinking 5 cups of coffee a day... I wonder what the average value is...
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I only smoked marijuana a few times. I experienced things way more intensely, especially sounds. I don't remember getting hungry, but I did get very sleepy. Also paranoid, I got really paranoid. My friend didn't want to let me smoke anymore after that, but I did with her brother a couple more times anyway. Similar things happened, and I decided it wasn't for me.
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introverted sensing and remembering about past events are strong and vivid and surprising shocking when i have hunches into the past but i dont have alot

i am more focused, like when im watching T.V omg guys tv is the bomb i watched paris hiltons best friend, american idol and yo mama on mtv let me break it down for you guys

paris hilton best friend = one time it was 7 minutes in heaven and the girls that were on that show were on auto pilot some girls were like nah u cant touch this this aint how we do in miami or some shit but basically = virgin

some girls were like try hards, trying to be flirty and fake and when paris hilton asked why they do it the girl was like well i thoguht it was what i was suppose to do?

other girls were just reaction seeking. one time a girl was to sing a song and she got nervous to start and after that the guy was like your whack and the girl was reaction seeking

american idol is pretty crazy. some contestants purposely go out there to not sing but just get there 15 minutes of fame by doing stupid shit and sometimes its hard to decipher whether thats there real characther or there just faking it, trying to be funny

also, since its 2/3 to be qualified, simon says no, the black guy is very smart, and tricky, he says yes and its up to paula abdul to give the final say. the black guy is smart becuase the singer was horrible and the black guy just watned paula to reject the perosn

now yo mama, wat i realized is that you dont need good jokes to win it. just gotta not give a fuck, say wats on ur mind and whoever is the most confident and non reactive seeking, not afraid, wins.
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Old 3rd-July-2010, 09:00 AM   ijustprotectedmyidentity's time 3rd-July-2010, 09:00 AM    #21
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man american idol is epik the 3 judges!! wat is simon an intj?


awww man learning when your high ahahaha history channel is to epik
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Not sure I concur here. This idea of being selfsuficient and not depended on external chemicals might sounds brave and like the right way and of course there is nothing wrong with it but I see this as a bit naive. You eat lots of chemicals everyday that you need in order to survive. Plants like corn and wheat provide you with the crucial resources for your body, it enables you to think and experience this world as a human being. The food provide you with the precursors to other chemicals your body builds. You can't live without it. You might argue, that psychedelics and food are different things and I would have to agree. But they have a lot in common - just think of it from this new perspective for a while.
Eating a fresh fruit full of vitamins and sugars is a perfect boost, you don't need to be ashamed to be reliable on external sources. We are living in symbiosis with other life forms - we can't live without them, that's what we are, a part of a larger organism.

I agree that introducing a foreign chemical to your system should not be taken lightly. It has many drawbacks. And now I am talking about habitual use. There is nothing wrong with choosing to drink coffee every day. Its just a bit tricky. Habbits are awefuly hard to abandon.
But let's leave addiction aside.

The important thing I'd like to question is the implication of your last sentence: "But it was all in my head.". I mean, what did you think? Everything is in your head. Your experience is always subjective supported only by your senses, your perception.
Or are you suggesting that the state of consiousness under psychedelics is not authentic? Why not? This could be a long discussion because this subject is just too complex and it would bring us to admitting that we really don't know much about the brain and how does the consciusness work or what does it even mean to be conscious.
So I don't really want to go into this and instead take a pragmatic approach. Some of these experiences could be quite helpfull, it can ignite energies and thoughts in you that could be beneficial. If used wisely as a tool, these foreign chemicals can help you. Like teachers do. What's wrong with a helpful hint or lets say a good lesson. Again, there is no shame in being thought something by an external source.
Its always about what will you do with the knowledge or experience. Its really just upon you. People are smart because they learn and know how to use tools for their advantage.
Definitely agree with your spiel, or maybe your underlying point, that humans themselves are chemicals and, thus, taking in some chemical substances versus others is not automatically verboden.

Speaking to your other point, it has been my experience that atheists or highly skeptical/aggressive agnostics discount the psychedelic experience as being in their head, or somehow a lesser experience. Admitting something more was going on or that perhaps one is not experiencing the truest reality is seen as anathema precisely because because it undercuts their sense of well-being or existential certainty. It my mind, though, if your not open minded and questioning, youre fundamentally scared, lazy, arrogant, or stupid. Bear in mind, scared could mean being afraid to approach a different paradigm, so more subtle than .
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At least two spelling errors in my previous post. Anyway, I forgot to say that my father (INTJ) has a rather creative/psychotic way of writing off his psychedelic past. He posits this idea that one is unlocking an embedded code in one's DNA when undertaking an LSD, DMT, heavy psilocybin trip, etc. and perhaps experiencing a future reality set up by more highly evolved alien species; the aliens in question have mastered their DNA sequence and are essentially toying around with us. He does not take this very seriously but I think its a cool idea. Ultimately, it seems like his way of conjecturing god without saying as much.
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Alright, I seem to have the opposite experiences with marijuana as most of ya'll. When I smoke in social situations I tend to get very quiet, even more than usual. I stay to myself and just take in everything. I really don't enjoy smoking around other people, except maybe a few very close friends. Smoking alone is a lot more enjoyable. What's weird, however, is that when I'm alone and high my train of thought is extremely non-linear. It's really hard to put in words. My brain goes off on extreme tangents, which oddly make perfect sense in the moment. Sometimes I get stuck in a loop of thought, which is particularly annoying, because I would revisit that thought throughout the duration of my high. However, near the end of the high I always regret smoking. I vow to myself to be a better person and live a healthier lifestyle. But I still smoke, however, only by myself and a lot less frequently.
As for marijuana in relation to INTP, for me marijuana seems to amplify INTPish traits.
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Old 3rd-August-2010, 10:30 AM   ElderToadstool's time 3rd-August-2010, 05:31 AM    #25
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I would have to agree with William S. Burroughs in saying that marijuana acts as a "sensitizer" i.e. that it amplifies sensations that are already present. Weed has the potential to make a good situation into a great one, but it also has the ability to aggravate any discomforts or misgivings that one may have.

I also think that marijuana is in some respects a sub-psychedelic (mind-manifesting) drug. Sufficient doses can easily make colors more vibrant and turn any insignificant occurrence into a source of uncontrolled hilarity. These symptoms, as well as minor time dilation and a noticeable change in thought processes, are the some of the characteristic effects of substances such as LSD and psilocybin. While experiences with the traditional, heavier psychedelics in far more intense, they are essentially encapsulated in miniature during the marijuana experience

In addition, marijuana intoxication has somatic manifestations that should not be overlooked. To once again paraphrase Burroughs, it can have the uncanny effect of distorting perceptions to the point where it can be hard to determine whether a sensation is pleasant or unpleasant. It is also well known that marijuana relaxes the muscles, which, in the proper context, contributes heavily to the classic mellowing effect of the drug.

And (I can't lie) it can give you an overwhelming case of the munchies.
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Old 4th-August-2010, 12:27 AM   Goethe's time 4th-August-2010, 12:27 AM    #26
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I'm an INFJ technically speaking, but my Fe/J preference is weak compared to my IN preference (think INTP with softer edges or INFJ with an analytic streak).

I find that smoking outside and/or with people seems to boost Fe and Se, and strengthens Ni with regard to the motives/thoughts/emotions of others. Normally I can only understand people on a hyper-abstract level but with some THC in my system I read them like a book. Smoking alone results in an 'eruption' of Ti, as it were. This brings with it tendencies resembling Si and Ne. I end up reading articles on math whenever I smoke alone.

In other words: smoke with friends = INFJ-resonance, smoke alone = INTP-resonance.
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Old 4th-August-2010, 05:35 AM   pjoa09's time 4th-August-2010, 12:36 PM    #27
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you're all lucky, i went for the fucking bong. and got:

nothing.


probably it takes a while for it to sink into me and that day will probably never come because i sort of didnt like what it did.

i honestly went for the bong twice... coughed my ass off. all i felt was a high that i get from some of the weakest cigarettes. and i dont smoke cigarettes other than a few times that i have tried.

it sucks to see everyone stoned and you are eating not because you are hungry but you are bored yet incapable of doing something properly.

i get teased for looking high a lot. even when i was 12. sometimes i get worried if i am naturally high and i have desensitized to it. so a bong dont make a difference.
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Old 4th-August-2010, 05:58 AM   Kokoro's time 4th-August-2010, 12:58 AM    #28
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you're all lucky, i went for the fucking bong. and got:

nothing.


probably it takes a while for it to sink into me and that day will probably never come because i sort of didnt like what it did.

i honestly went for the bong twice... coughed my ass off. all i felt was a high that i get from some of the weakest cigarettes. and i dont smoke cigarettes other than a few times that i have tried.

it sucks to see everyone stoned and you are eating not because you are hungry but you are bored yet incapable of doing something properly.

i get teased for looking high a lot. even when i was 12. sometimes i get worried if i am naturally high and i have desensitized to it. so a bong dont make a difference.
Not being affected much for your first time is a pretty common thing. There are different theories, but most people just say that first timers do not inhale properly. For some people, you have to chase it down with a second inhalation to really get it in.

Anyone know of a more chemical/physiological cause for this situation?
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Old 4th-August-2010, 06:48 AM   8151147's time 4th-August-2010, 06:48 AM    #29
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#1: I don't think so
I simply think marijuana is not good for health, and if u used it, u should throw it out the window now.

There are many way to choose. The marijuana is not a good choice for you. It's just simply, i think so.
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Old 7th-August-2010, 05:10 AM   nil's time 7th-August-2010, 12:11 AM    #30
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I would imagine... it would give one some amazing thoughts... not as amazing as LSD of course.
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Not being affected much for your first time is a pretty common thing. There are different theories, but most people just say that first timers do not inhale properly. For some people, you have to chase it down with a second inhalation to really get it in.

Anyone know of a more chemical/physiological cause for this situation?
huh. sucks, because i doubt i will ever come across it again. but maybe i am glorifying it, i always thought that if i inhaled it i would super philosophical and play guitar like Slash or something.
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i always thought that if i inhaled it i would super philosophical and play guitar like Slash or something.
My general feelings. I know people who have done it, and they say, basically, that everything is super slow and everything is inexplicably funny.
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This thread has allowed me to understand da blob.
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Old 7th-August-2010, 09:12 AM   onthewindowstand's time 7th-August-2010, 02:12 AM    #34
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lol I love weed and ive only done it a few times. So much better than alcohol!
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My general feelings. I know people who have done it, and they say, basically, that everything is super slow and everything is inexplicably funny.
in that case we should be getting bonuses on our licenses if we drive high.
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Hmm... I think that makes sense.
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Old 8th-August-2010, 05:38 AM   Causeless's time 8th-August-2010, 12:38 AM    #37
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I'm an INFJ technically speaking, but my Fe/J preference is weak compared to my IN preference (think INTP with softer edges or INFJ with an analytic streak).

I find that smoking outside and/or with people seems to boost Fe and Se, and strengthens Ni with regard to the motives/thoughts/emotions of others. Normally I can only understand people on a hyper-abstract level but with some THC in my system I read them like a book. Smoking alone results in an 'eruption' of Ti, as it were. This brings with it tendencies resembling Si and Ne. I end up reading articles on math whenever I smoke alone.

In other words: smoke with friends = INFJ-resonance, smoke alone = INTP-resonance.
Strangely, I know EXACTLY what you're talking about. I could elaborate on my personal experience, but you've pretty much nailed it, at least with me.

Also, my good smoking buddy is as ENTJ as they get. I have to say some of the greatest and most interesting conversations of my life have been over a bowl with him.

(And yeah, I started lurking again. Hai guys.)
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Old 31st-January-2011, 01:34 AM   DannyBoy's time 31st-January-2011, 11:34 AM    #38
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I actually become more introverted after smoking.
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Old 31st-January-2011, 04:23 AM   a detached retina's time 30th-January-2011, 11:23 PM    #39
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If anything I would say the weed makes my perceptive functions more extraverted and my judging functions more introverted.

Ne runs out of control while I'm high and I go on so many tangents, pushing my instantaneous and spontaneous theories and interpretations on others and my surroundings.

Se also gets amped up as I notice for once: subtle nuances and tastes in my food, interesting sounds in music, the feeling of warm blankets, impulses to keep consuming more and more nicotine etc.

Fe which usually serves me well to understand the current social vibe and what others are thinking/feeling turns into Fi. I agree with this one. It's a very rewarding experience to use Fi, however the lack of Fe means I get less feedback from others' facial expressions etc. which can make me kind of paranoid that I am being stupid.

Ti just kind of diminishes without turning into Te. I remain equally "analytical" though objectively my thoughts are less profound and my logic is more fuzzy. This is not to be confused with my Ne amping which could make me more "creative" but there's less Ti sussing out which are valid intuitions and which are bullshit. (I have to do that later sober)

It's funny I write this as I'm drunk, which I have to say makes me dumber, makes my extraverted functions more extraverted and my introverted functions less introverted, and is catastrophic for my grammar.
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Old 31st-January-2011, 07:57 AM   Artsu Tharaz's time 31st-January-2011, 05:57 PM    #40
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My thought processes become much more creative and rapid. I have theories which, while if interpreted literally might seem absurd, if interpreted in a different way are quite profound. I've saved a lot of what I've written whilst high so I might give some examples later on if I can discern what my thought processes were.

I would agree with the functions turning into Ni/Se, as well as the seeming Fi with a bit of Te (more focused on external planning. Might not necessarily be actual Te). I thought the feeling was a stronger Fe, but it matches what people in this thread are describing as Fi. Perhaps the Ni is actually just Ne acting inwardly in a sense, giving me a new way of using Ti, and the Se isn't Se at all - my senses become tuned to one particular thing that I'm doing, whether it be listening to music or whatever. I overall become deeply focused on whatever I'm doing.
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Old 31st-January-2011, 09:25 AM   Meer's time 31st-January-2011, 04:25 AM    #41
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i've never experienced increased creativity, or even happiness or giddiness, from weed. the only affect it really has on me is that i became a lot more spaced out then i usually am. my mind will run off on tangents about stupid little things and i lose track of reality and forget how my mind had ever started down the path its on (this happens when i'm not high sometimes too, but it happens constantly when i am high).
Yeah, basically. It really exaggerates the difference between existing in my head and in 'actual' reality. Music doesn't sound any different but physical sensations go insane. Sometimes, it's like there's this threshold or ceiling of sensing that I'm about to burst through and then I would hyper-exist in the physical world. It makes my body feel like it's actually a part of me, instead just the crap that's attached to my brain to hold it up and keep it working.

Last night, at a party-type thing, I was talking about this with a guy. Eventually, he said, "Yeah, but it makes you think so much!" and I replied, "I always think."
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Paranoia!

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I like weed... it makes me a jolly good fellow
I like weed... it helps me unwind and sometimes it makes me feel mellow....
Rye is too rough,
Acid costs too much,
And nothing is worse than speed...
Oh this little refrain should help me explain
As a matter of fact, I like weed
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Old 27th-September-2011, 01:18 AM   ObliviousGenius's time 26th-September-2011, 07:18 PM    #45
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Wow, I completely forgot this thread was the entire reason I signed up for this forum. Oh man where do I begin (weed effects are something that I have really broken down over the years). I almost completely agree with the OP, the only difference is my functions are not just reversed, but they are ALL enhanced. I become more extroverted, introverted, sensing, intuitive, etc. Consider this, say your original extroversion level is a score of 10 while sober and Introversion is a score 90. While high, the extroversion level raises to 50 (random number increase because I have no data/theory to tell how much more extroverted you can become) and introversion to 130 and so on for the other functions. INTp is still your main MBTI but it is still possible to think in the other functions. The brain performs at "110" percent so to speak. With weed I become a more complete person. Also, I don't feel paranoid at all. I have never understood that fact, I become more aware but never paranoid. I'm hilarious too if I can say so myself (I know because extroverts say so, so there).
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I hate marijuana. It makes me feel tired, unable to function, paranoid, and that a clamp is squeezing the sides of my head in.

I don't like to do drugs even recreationally, but if I had my choice it would be either cocaine or ecstasy/MDMA.
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I hate marijuana. It makes me feel tired, unable to function, paranoid, and that a clamp is squeezing the sides of my head in.

I don't like to do drugs even recreationally, but if I had my choice it would be either cocaine or ecstasy/MDMA.
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It seems to intensify Si For me. Which means a lot of good things, but a lot of bad things for me psychologically. I remember a lot more things that i'm supposed to do, and i organize things with a strange precision and order that i can't usually see when i'm sober. I constantly remember bad trips and have waves of epic paranoia if certain things that i'm expecting don't happen. Ni maybe?

I stopped smoking a while ago because all the sketchyness was getting to me. My thought process got filled with mental smoke, and i got to the point where i can tell at any given moment in time what it would be like to be high.
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I felt like a really hungry little boy who thought everything was a fun adventure. Certain music became more enveloping, as atmospheric nuances became more prominent or "meaningful". I agree that Si is very intensified.

I never got any kind of Te extroversion, Ni future-planning or anything like that... that's been closer to my experience with stimulants

Best weed I had was green crack.
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I like weed... it helps me unwind and sometimes it makes me feel mellow....
Rye is too rough,
Acid costs too much,
And nothing is worse than speed...
Oh this little refrain should help me explain
As a matter of fact, I like weed
Ha, nice shout out to Tom T Hall.

I used to love weed, made everything better and calmed my nerves. Now I just get paranoid as hell, and that makes me a sad panda.
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