What has the forum become, indeed

FacetiousPersona · 1st-May-2009, 10:12 PM

It seems to have suddenly declined significantly in terms of quality.

Toad · 1st-May-2009, 10:34 PM

Well all of the interesting topics have been discussed already. I think most of us feel that we need to fill the gap until another productive and interesting topic can come up. Don't worry it will come.

O, I'd rather burn in hell than apologize mwhuahahah

echoplex · 2nd-May-2009, 02:27 AM

It's quality lack of quality....so far.

Red Mage · 2nd-May-2009, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FacetiousPersona

It seems to have suddenly declined significantly in terms of quality.

I'm shocked that no one has pointed out the irony of this post.

Anthile · 2nd-May-2009, 11:31 AM

It kinda amuses me to see how everyone seems to fail and can't see the relation between himself and the state of the forum. I spoke to so many people here, perhaps more than everyone else in here and far too often something I heard something like "Board, uh, that's just bad. And it became so much worse since I got here." Hilariously enough, it doesn't even matter how long someone is here. Two weeks, two months or two years - Forum is on decline!!1.
But the worst part is, as I asked those people what they wanted to do against that "demise". And in this moment I could almost sense how they were staring at their monitors in disbelief, trying to comprehend what that crazy German guy just wrote. That's right - they never even thought of changing something for the better. Well, nothing except for "let's ban everyone I dislike"...
It seems that the whole concept of doing-instead-of-complaining seems so mind-boggling and overwhelmingly alien for the average INTP that it makes you wonder how they get anything done. Also, it leads to the weird implication that they enjoy the suffering and the squirming in agony. But that's only secondary.

And let's face it - a good forum needs work. Lots of work. If you are trying to write a good posting, it mostly takes a lot of time because it's maybe very long, you do the research very thoroughly or you are just a slow writer. Some people even have the problem that they can't even finish a sentence because they get always distra
Or someone ninjas you which can be quite annoying, I guess that is something we all know too well.
And when you create a new thread you always have the risk that it gets either gets completely ignored or that someone just vomits in there without reading - or worse - without understanding it. Just look how many threads are out there which no one really understood (sometimes including the author) or which got derailed with the very first posting.
Being a good writer requires - you guessed it - hard work, practice and frustration-resistence.

"So", you may ask. "What was this snarky and after all not very funny posting about?"
Don't expect that things just happen. It's awkward that I even have to write that down, I feel bad about that.
If you want that things change, change them - if not, you don't have a right to complain whatsoever.
After all, the board is not an anthropomorphic personification or something like that, which simply means you are the forum and you are at least partially responsible for its state.

cheese · 2nd-May-2009, 11:33 AM

^INFJ.

snowqueen · 2nd-May-2009, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cheese

^INFJ.

Doesn't make what was said untrue though.

FacetiousPersona · 2nd-May-2009, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by snowqueen

Doesn't make what was said untrue though.

It does. No J speaks words of truth.

cheese · 2nd-May-2009, 02:39 PM

Not my point snowqueen; I simply found it interesting how the type expressed itself so clearly - in a forum of Passive grumblers a J comes forth and changes the world....or dies trying.

snowqueen · 2nd-May-2009, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheese

Not my point snowqueen; I simply found it interesting how the type expressed itself so clearly - in a forum of Passive grumblers a J comes forth and changes the world....or dies trying.

Oh I see - thanks for explaining. Is Anthile a self-confessed INFJ then? They are my favourite type after INTP

so it's interesting that I leapt to his/her defence!

cheese · 3rd-May-2009, 03:45 AM

Hmm! He hovers between the two, but of late I think he's leaning towards INFJ.

Ogion · 3rd-May-2009, 06:05 PM

Anthile:
I know those arguments of yours and with a lot i would agree.
When one wants the forum to be at a certain niveau and/or has a certain atmosphere, one has to do something about it.
The problems start though at the moment where not everyone wants the same niveau/atmosphere.
Since i think that ultimately exerting authority and forcing people to adhere to your chosen atmospere is futile, a good place of communcation and exchange of ideas should just offer many niches, many half-seperate places where people can choose the form of communication they and their communication-partners there want to follow.
The only 'rule' then would have to be, to respect the niches, the sperate places of other people and their chosen atmosphere in there (relative to the places, not the people thouhg, because one can of course choose to want one atmosphere in one place and a completely different in another place).

Ogion

Concojones · 3rd-May-2009, 06:51 PM

I think it's good that we have 'hangout' parts and 'serious' parts in the forum.
Other than that, what can you do? Isn't it a fact of life, that, the greater the number of participants, the lower the quality? Internet forums, social settings... all the same.

And, I agree, Anthile, that quality went downhill after my joining!

Tyria · 4th-May-2009, 03:23 AM

I haven't been around long enough to tell if it is on a 'decline' or not. I think people make of things what they will. Try posting interesting material or the like if you don't like current discussions. You can change how things progress.

QSR · 4th-May-2009, 11:30 PM

Yeah this forum misses some of the people who weren't of the emo-teen variety. No offense to you emo-teens, you have your place here, but the threads go downhill when you turn it into a creative writing assignment. Needs moar dwags, ff, kaedri and yeayea type posters. Face is just here to bully around those who came here to escape bullying. He would be entertaining if so many didn't fall into his traps so easily.

This place could have promise, but needs more 'lite posters to show up and stick around.

Adaire · 4th-May-2009, 11:35 PM

I'd like to see some more scientific and futuristic threads. More analytical discussion over the emotional aspects of being an INTP. Granted it is important; but it feel like this forum revolves around it sometimes. I still love this forum though.

<3 QSR

Fukyo · 5th-May-2009, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QSR

Needs moar yeayea type posters.

WTF,THE ESTP?!

*shudder*

QSR · 5th-May-2009, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Fukyo

WTF,THE ESTP?!

*shudder*

Comic relief, my friend.

Ghost1986 · 5th-May-2009, 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FacetiousPersona

It seems to have suddenly declined significantly in terms of quality.

i think it started just after i joined:(

Fukyo · 5th-May-2009, 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QSR

Comic relief, my friend.

I'm phobic! :(

:(

Weliddryn · 5th-May-2009, 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QSR

Yeah this forum misses some of the people who weren't of the emo-teen variety. No offense to you emo-teens, you have your place here, but the threads go downhill when you turn it into a creative writing assignment. Needs moar dwags, ff, kaedri and yeayea type posters. Face is just here to bully around those who came here to escape bullying. He would be entertaining if so many didn't fall into his traps so easily.

This place could have promise, but needs more 'lite posters to show up and stick around.

That was beautiful, just beautiful. *wipes a tear from hir eye*

Tyria · 5th-May-2009, 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QSR

Yeah this forum misses some of the people who weren't of the emo-teen variety. No offense to you emo-teens, you have your place here, but the threads go downhill when you turn it into a creative writing assignment. Needs moar dwags, ff, kaedri and yeayea type posters. Face is just here to bully around those who came here to escape bullying. He would be entertaining if so many didn't fall into his traps so easily.

This place could have promise, but needs more 'lite posters to show up and stick around.

Your soul is a cavern of lies!!

Seducer of the Homeless · 5th-May-2009, 03:41 PM

i have been less frequent recently and must say the forum is different. who is Crimson_Knight, Adair...

no offence, i don't dislike you. i am just unfamiliar even though you have posted many times. i also think i was like you, frequent yet unnoticed. hell, my less frequent appearance is due to continual confiscation of laptop. Not that anyone cares....

Tyria · 5th-May-2009, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crimson_Knight

Your soul is a cavern of lies!!

It was a red versus blue reference. Apparently, others did not get it or thought it was not funny. I apologize.

Toad · 7th-May-2009, 12:25 AM

Hey, who is that lightspeed guy that used to post here? Isn't he the creator of the forum?

Anthile · 7th-May-2009, 07:36 AM

Massive thread split.

@Sly Guy: I'm afraid Lor can answer you that better than me.

Traveller · 10th-May-2009, 08:05 PM

I have no idea "what has the forum become, indeed", because I wasn't here (so it can't be my fault!) but now that I am here, it can only get better, right?

So all you nay sayers and grumblers (you know who you are) can stop it... This forum shall henceforth be overflowing with an abundance of wit and intelligent banter for I have arrived.

BTW, thanks for the warm welcome!

phantome · 10th-May-2009, 11:45 PM

@QSR, I honestly haven't found any emo-type teens on the forum so far.

@Traveller- I'm guessing modesty isn't one of your strongest traits?

XIII · 11th-May-2009, 12:00 AM

On the contrary. It seems that modesty isn't one of his weak traits.

Strength is to modesty as courage is to cowardice.

phantome · 11th-May-2009, 12:24 AM

I beg to differ

XIII · 11th-May-2009, 12:28 AM

Modesty is for servants; commandment is for masters.

Thus, you beg to differ. Thus, I deny your request.

Fukyo · 11th-May-2009, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XIII

Modesty is for servants

Not true.

XIII · 11th-May-2009, 12:32 AM

Trust INPs to spoil wordplay with their clumsy lust for truth.

A perspectival game. Play. Frivolity. Lightness. Isn't it beauti...

Oh damn it all. Here comes she with her austere truth.

Fukyo · 11th-May-2009, 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XIII

Trust INPs to spoil wordplay with their clumsy lust for truth.

Trust XIII to be XIII.

XIII · 11th-May-2009, 12:38 AM

M'am, that statement constitutes a contradiction.

phantome · 11th-May-2009, 01:32 AM

XII you're spurting out random statements w/o any sort of proof to support them XD

XIII · 11th-May-2009, 03:26 AM

Proof? Proof is necessary for the empirical validation of a hypothesis. I, as a being in contact with the a priori knowledge of the eternal soul (which you have forgotten by anamnesis), need no empirical ''proof''. My posts are the result of perfect and infallible deduction regarding the essential structure of reality.

Additionally, reason is the whore of the will. As a master, facts and induction are only useful in so far as they serve my greater-- other than rational-- purpose.

Traveller · 11th-May-2009, 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phantome

@Traveller- I'm guessing modesty isn't one of your strongest traits?

What are you trying to say? It should be obvious to all (as it certainly is to me) that many years of arduous research have yielded the following observation:

INTP = Incredibly Nice Thoughtful Person

So, as the saying goes, "if the glove fits..."

1st-May-2009, 10:12 PM	FacetiousPersona's time 1st-May-2009, 10:13 PM #1
FacetiousPersona Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Cambridge Posts: 1,800	What has the forum become, indeed It seems to have suddenly declined significantly in terms of quality.

1st-May-2009, 10:34 PM	Toad's time 1st-May-2009, 02:34 PM #2
Toad True King of Mushroomland!!! Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,781	What has the forum become, indeed Well all of the interesting topics have been discussed already. I think most of us feel that we need to fill the gap until another productive and interesting topic can come up. Don't worry it will come. O, I'd rather burn in hell than apologize mwhuahahah __________________ Find yourself and then help others find themselves.

2nd-May-2009, 02:27 AM	echoplex's time 1st-May-2009, 09:27 PM #3
echoplex Happen. Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: From a dangerously safe distance Posts: 1,614	Re: What has the forum become? It's quality lack of quality....so far. __________________ small.

2nd-May-2009, 11:31 AM	Anthile's time 2nd-May-2009, 12:31 PM #5
Anthile Nothing but contempt Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 4,014	Re: What has the forum become? It kinda amuses me to see how everyone seems to fail and can't see the relation between himself and the state of the forum. I spoke to so many people here, perhaps more than everyone else in here and far too often something I heard something like "Board, uh, that's just bad. And it became so much worse since I got here." Hilariously enough, it doesn't even matter how long someone is here. Two weeks, two months or two years - Forum is on decline!!1. But the worst part is, as I asked those people what they wanted to do against that "demise". And in this moment I could almost sense how they were staring at their monitors in disbelief, trying to comprehend what that crazy German guy just wrote. That's right - they never even thought of changing something for the better. Well, nothing except for "let's ban everyone I dislike"... It seems that the whole concept of doing-instead-of-complaining seems so mind-boggling and overwhelmingly alien for the average INTP that it makes you wonder how they get anything done. Also, it leads to the weird implication that they enjoy the suffering and the squirming in agony. But that's only secondary. And let's face it - a good forum needs work. Lots of work. If you are trying to write a good posting, it mostly takes a lot of time because it's maybe very long, you do the research very thoroughly or you are just a slow writer. Some people even have the problem that they can't even finish a sentence because they get always distra Or someone ninjas you which can be quite annoying, I guess that is something we all know too well. And when you create a new thread you always have the risk that it gets either gets completely ignored or that someone just vomits in there without reading - or worse - without understanding it. Just look how many threads are out there which no one really understood (sometimes including the author) or which got derailed with the very first posting. Being a good writer requires - you guessed it - hard work, practice and frustration-resistence. "So", you may ask. "What was this snarky and after all not very funny posting about?" Don't expect that things just happen. It's awkward that I even have to write that down, I feel bad about that. If you want that things change, change them - if not, you don't have a right to complain whatsoever. After all, the board is not an anthropomorphic personification or something like that, which simply means you are the forum and you are at least partially responsible for its state. __________________ "Good evening, gentlemen! Please pay attention. I am a reformed vampire, which is to say, I am a bundle of suppressed instincts held together with spit and coffee. It would be wrong to say that violent, tearing carnage does not come easily to me. It's not tearing your throats out that doesn't come easily to me. Please don't make it any harder." ~Maladict, Monstrous Regiment

2nd-May-2009, 11:33 AM	cheese's time 2nd-May-2009, 09:33 PM #6
cheese Resident Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: internet/pubs Posts: 2,472	Re: What has the forum become? ^INFJ.

2nd-May-2009, 02:39 PM	cheese's time 3rd-May-2009, 12:39 AM #9
cheese Resident Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: internet/pubs Posts: 2,472	Re: What has the forum become? Not my point snowqueen; I simply found it interesting how the type expressed itself so clearly - in a forum of Passive grumblers a J comes forth and changes the world....or dies trying.

3rd-May-2009, 03:45 AM	cheese's time 3rd-May-2009, 01:45 PM #11
cheese Resident Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: internet/pubs Posts: 2,472	Re: What has the forum become? Hmm! He hovers between the two, but of late I think he's leaning towards INFJ.

3rd-May-2009, 06:05 PM	Ogion's time 3rd-May-2009, 07:05 PM #12
Ogion Paladin of Patience Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 2,310	Re: What has the forum become? Anthile: I know those arguments of yours and with a lot i would agree. When one wants the forum to be at a certain niveau and/or has a certain atmosphere, one has to do something about it. The problems start though at the moment where not everyone wants the same niveau/atmosphere. Since i think that ultimately exerting authority and forcing people to adhere to your chosen atmospere is futile, a good place of communcation and exchange of ideas should just offer many niches, many half-seperate places where people can choose the form of communication they and their communication-partners there want to follow. The only 'rule' then would have to be, to respect the niches, the sperate places of other people and their chosen atmosphere in there (relative to the places, not the people thouhg, because one can of course choose to want one atmosphere in one place and a completely different in another place). Ogion __________________ "People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will loose both." - Benjamin Franklin "Enlightenment is man’s leaving his self-caused immaturity." - Immanuel Kant "The interests of an INTP would be enough to occupy him for several lifetimes if that were possible." "Lor and NoI are my heroes and I would do anything for them!" Truth, just....Truth. Oh and it will change your view on "Real Life" forever

3rd-May-2009, 06:51 PM	Concojones's time 3rd-May-2009, 07:51 PM #13
Concojones Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: EU Posts: 306	Re: What has the forum become? I think it's good that we have 'hangout' parts and 'serious' parts in the forum. Other than that, what can you do? Isn't it a fact of life, that, the greater the number of participants, the lower the quality? Internet forums, social settings... all the same. And, I agree, Anthile, that quality went downhill after my joining!

4th-May-2009, 03:23 AM	Tyria's time 4th-May-2009, 04:23 AM #14
Tyria Ryuusa bakuryuu Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,840	Re: What has the forum become? I haven't been around long enough to tell if it is on a 'decline' or not. I think people make of things what they will. Try posting interesting material or the like if you don't like current discussions. You can change how things progress.

4th-May-2009, 11:30 PM	QSR's time 4th-May-2009, 04:30 PM #15
QSR Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 256	Re: What has the forum become? Yeah this forum misses some of the people who weren't of the emo-teen variety. No offense to you emo-teens, you have your place here, but the threads go downhill when you turn it into a creative writing assignment. Needs moar dwags, ff, kaedri and yeayea type posters. Face is just here to bully around those who came here to escape bullying. He would be entertaining if so many didn't fall into his traps so easily. This place could have promise, but needs more 'lite posters to show up and stick around. __________________

4th-May-2009, 11:35 PM	Adaire's time 4th-May-2009, 04:35 PM #16
Adaire Resident Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,698	Re: What has the forum become? I'd like to see some more scientific and futuristic threads. More analytical discussion over the emotional aspects of being an INTP. Granted it is important; but it feel like this forum revolves around it sometimes. I still love this forum though. <3 QSR

5th-May-2009, 03:41 PM	Seducer of the Homeless's time 5th-May-2009, 03:41 PM #23
Seducer of the Homeless INFP Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: where i have been put Posts: 1,791	Re: What has the forum become? i have been less frequent recently and must say the forum is different. who is Crimson_Knight, Adair... no offence, i don't dislike you. i am just unfamiliar even though you have posted many times. i also think i was like you, frequent yet unnoticed. hell, my less frequent appearance is due to continual confiscation of laptop. Not that anyone cares.... __________________ I like too many things and get all confused and hung-up running from one falling star to another till i drop. I have nothing to offer anybody except my own confusion. - Jack Kerouac 'But Bill, people don't want to think, they want to laugh' What? Do you want me to tickle them all individually?! - Bill Hicks Poets are Damned... but See with the Eyes of Angels. - Allen Ginsberg

7th-May-2009, 12:25 AM	Toad's time 6th-May-2009, 04:25 PM #25
Toad True King of Mushroomland!!! Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,781	Re: What has the forum become? Hey, who is that lightspeed guy that used to post here? Isn't he the creator of the forum? __________________ Find yourself and then help others find themselves.

7th-May-2009, 07:36 AM	Anthile's time 7th-May-2009, 08:36 AM #26
Anthile Nothing but contempt Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 4,014	Re: What has the forum become? Massive thread split. @Sly Guy: I'm afraid Lor can answer you that better than me. __________________ "Good evening, gentlemen! Please pay attention. I am a reformed vampire, which is to say, I am a bundle of suppressed instincts held together with spit and coffee. It would be wrong to say that violent, tearing carnage does not come easily to me. It's not tearing your throats out that doesn't come easily to me. Please don't make it any harder." ~Maladict, Monstrous Regiment

10th-May-2009, 08:05 PM	Traveller's time 11th-May-2009, 04:05 AM #27
Traveller Redshirt Join Date: May 2009 Location: Western Australia Posts: 3	Re: What has the forum become, indeed I have no idea "what has the forum become, indeed", because I wasn't here (so it can't be my fault!) but now that I am here, it can only get better, right? So all you nay sayers and grumblers (you know who you are) can stop it... This forum shall henceforth be overflowing with an abundance of wit and intelligent banter for I have arrived. BTW, thanks for the warm welcome! __________________ Life is short... think about it.

10th-May-2009, 11:45 PM	phantome's time 10th-May-2009, 03:45 PM #28
phantome connecting that which cannot be connected Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: my imagination :) Posts: 278	Re: What has the forum become, indeed @QSR, I honestly haven't found any emo-type teens on the forum so far. @Traveller- I'm guessing modesty isn't one of your strongest traits?

11th-May-2009, 12:00 AM	XIII's time 11th-May-2009, 12:00 AM #29
XIII Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 363	Re: What has the forum become, indeed On the contrary. It seems that modesty isn't one of his weak traits. Strength is to modesty as courage is to cowardice.

11th-May-2009, 12:24 AM	phantome's time 10th-May-2009, 04:24 PM #30
phantome connecting that which cannot be connected Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: my imagination :) Posts: 278	Re: What has the forum become, indeed I beg to differ

11th-May-2009, 12:28 AM	XIII's time 11th-May-2009, 12:28 AM #31
XIII Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 363	Re: What has the forum become, indeed Modesty is for servants; commandment is for masters. Thus, you beg to differ. Thus, I deny your request.

11th-May-2009, 12:32 AM	XIII's time 11th-May-2009, 12:32 AM #33
XIII Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 363	Re: What has the forum become, indeed Trust INPs to spoil wordplay with their clumsy lust for truth. A perspectival game. Play. Frivolity. Lightness. Isn't it beauti... Oh damn it all. Here comes she with her austere truth.

11th-May-2009, 12:38 AM	XIII's time 11th-May-2009, 12:38 AM #35
XIII Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 363	Re: What has the forum become, indeed M'am, that statement constitutes a contradiction.

11th-May-2009, 01:32 AM	phantome's time 10th-May-2009, 05:33 PM #36
phantome connecting that which cannot be connected Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: my imagination :) Posts: 278	Re: What has the forum become, indeed XII you're spurting out random statements w/o any sort of proof to support them XD

11th-May-2009, 03:26 AM	XIII's time 11th-May-2009, 03:26 AM #37
XIII Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 363	Re: What has the forum become, indeed Proof? Proof is necessary for the empirical validation of a hypothesis. I, as a being in contact with the a priori knowledge of the eternal soul (which you have forgotten by anamnesis), need no empirical ''proof''. My posts are the result of perfect and infallible deduction regarding the essential structure of reality. Additionally, reason is the whore of the will. As a master, facts and induction are only useful in so far as they serve my greater-- other than rational-- purpose.

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