Go Back   INTP Forum > The Arts and Entertainment > Literature

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 30th-March-2009, 12:48 PM   Beat Mango's time 30th-March-2009, 10:48 PM    #1
Beat Mango
Senior Member
 
Beat Mango's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,312
Default Kerouac and the Beats

Is anyone else drawn to Jack Kerouac's writing, in particular On the Road, and beat culture in general? The whole beatnik way of life really resonates with me, and seems to match with the INTP profile, with their love of thought, freedom, music and spontaneity and their disregard of achievement (even though many of the beats seemed to be extroverted, Kerouac himself was no doubt an introvert)
__________________


My blog:
http://www.quotablequips.com

For in much wisdom is much grief, and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow...
Beat Mango is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30th-March-2009, 02:10 PM   Ben's time 30th-March-2009, 09:10 AM    #2
Ben
Member
 

Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 110
Default Re: Kerouac and the Beats

Yeah, I love on the road! Hey, you should also consider reading the book "Motorcycle Diaries". The message is a bit different but the story is very similar to On the Road.
__________________
Rudy cant fail
Ben is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30th-March-2009, 02:57 PM   mikal's time 30th-March-2009, 03:57 PM    #3
mikal
Member
 
mikal's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 88
Default Re: Kerouac and the Beats

I red The subterraneans and was little bit disappointed with his writing; thats cause I expected a lot. keroauc this, keroauc that..don't know if you'll agree, but I consider his way of writing to 'free' (chaotic sentences without grammatical boundaries) but that was probably part of the beat generation. Chaos, spontaneity, drinking, postdrinking chaos..
I should read On the road (and read it in english) and something from Ginsberg. One book is not enough to judge.
mikal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30th-March-2009, 03:17 PM   Beat Mango's time 31st-March-2009, 01:17 AM    #4
Beat Mango
Senior Member
 
Beat Mango's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,312
Default Re: Kerouac and the Beats

I actually just finished the Subterraneans. The best thing about Kerouac's writing for most is the celebration of the Beat lifestyle and mentality, which can only really be captured with his "free" (spontaneous) writing style. If you don't like that, you probably won't like any of his work, but in saying that, I think the Subterraneans is a bit meh. It is more self-reflective and about one specific relationship, rather than the wildness and adventure of On the Road which is much more about the Beat values: freedom, spontaneity, adventure, etc. Also, spontaneous prose is always a bit hit and miss - some passages are gold, whereas others don't quite work. Definitely read Ginsberg's Howl, it will only take a few minutes and can read for free on the net.

I've seen the Motorcycle Diaries movie, don't know if that counts...
__________________


My blog:
http://www.quotablequips.com

For in much wisdom is much grief, and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow...
Beat Mango is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30th-March-2009, 03:51 PM   mikal's time 30th-March-2009, 04:51 PM    #5
mikal
Member
 
mikal's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 88
Default Re: Kerouac and the Beats

Ah, you know, I find them interesting as the phenomenon: first western subculture. it was way of life. of course the prose was kind of free and unlimited; they wanted it to be that way. it doesn't mean it's bad, I just don't like it (prefer lost generation).
And it had great deal in music. also influenced on subsequent literature (I can't help it, but I always compare The subterraneans with John Fante's Ask the dust, they fell in love with the same type of women)
mikal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31st-March-2009, 06:49 AM   Sapphire Harp's time 30th-March-2009, 11:49 PM    #6
Sapphire Harp
Member
 
Sapphire Harp's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Arvada, Colorado
Posts: 634
Send a message via AIM to Sapphire Harp Send a message via Yahoo to Sapphire Harp
Default Re: Kerouac and the Beats

I wound up reading the Dharma Bums first among Kerouac's books and I thought he had some good stuff going there. He seemed a bit full of himself, but whatever. After that I read 'On The Road' and I couldn't begin to relate to the people and situations. It seemed like they were all sensate junkies bingeing on anything they could find...
Sapphire Harp is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Kerouac's On the Road Tempestas Literature 2 28th-August-2012 06:55 AM
This beats bashing my head against the wall Inappropriate Behavior Introit 25 5th-October-2008 12:33 AM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 06:27 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Template-Modifications by TMS



no new posts