Originally Posted by DrGregoryHouse
My problem with planet earth is it is entirely too full of morons who are breeding at exponentially increasing rates (look up the demographics of China India and Africa).
Poor people in Africa or elsewhere aren't the human surpluses. It is you and I. WE are the problem. WE use too many resources.
I want to add to the person you replied to, that mining space for resources is a dumb idea.
Look at the world from space. Look at the atmosphere, this ultra thin layer of gases we breathe. And that protect us from radiation. And he wants to fly in ore to smelt? Any chemical reaction like that requires oxygen. So basically we use this island in space as a blast furnace?
How does that work. Our world is a sphere, thus finite. And space is REALLY REALLY big. It holds LOADS and LOADS of ores. And he wants all that ore to be put in a limited environment?
I reason that human nature will always co-exist with humans and thus societies divided into various classes (money, intelligence, beauty, etc) will always be around whatever galaxy humans are inhabiting.
No I cannot see that happening. This divisions are causing loads of problems. Economy in a way is the difference between much money and little money. The dark matter between it consumes our climate and resources and species.
We either become united globally or perish to a subsistence living model. Maybe, just very much maybe it is possible to go back to an 1850's sort of level and sustain that for a longer time. But I don't see how we can keep our modern culture going for even 100 years.
Can we sustain western paradigms over 200 years? 1000 years? Hell no.
The only solution I can see to the overpopulation nightmare is space exploration and travel. As soon as interplanetary-intergalactic mining, etc becomes profitable, I'm sure it will begin.
No, we develop technology in the wrong direction quicker than our ability to morally grow. Technology grows faster than our values. We research in many directions, utterly ridiculous things, like new elements, CERN, other fundamental research.
We research phone technologies, ICT...that destroy the climate with our hyper-consumption of it.
I never had a cell phone though. And no, no fb or google account, I don't use twitter either or any social media.
Before we invent warp drive, so we may 'escape' the cesspool we created and harm other worlds with our economic theories and western paradigms, after all, it is the Western world that will go to space, not some poor African, no, we take Western values, we will have pretty much destroyed the world, sabotaged its climate, killed of many species, and caused much human suffering globally.
The bereft and wretched are left behind.
I oppose any notion of technological 'progress' because it does NOT progress us at all, it just makes more ways to consume the planet available to us, more consumption because we rather consume than think. Or develop better values for society.
Solutions should be found not in technology but in 'how to be in the world'. The question we need to ask ourselves is 'do I really get happier because of the next I- fucking-pad or do I just keep this one because it does the job (and even an I-pad is bullshit to own).
Solutions are this, that first we learn what it means to have a self-reflective consciousness, how to operate it, what it is meant for and THEN shape our world on better values.
And that world will have less technology, other economic systems that are based on sober needs of people, less choice on what to own and restrictions to what we perceive as 'freedom' which usually means what we can buy.
We will provide food and shelter for all humans alive first, before we start thinking of a space program. First we develop our moral values, then we increase our understanding of the universe and channel money into science again. And then we are ready, we ALL go to space.
We take the complete genome of our world and find another world and impregnate her with our seed. And only if she isn't already pregnant with species of her own.
If life has any function, it is to propagate. Our consciousness can be used to do that between planets on an interplanetary scale. Thge tigers alone cannot do it. Nor the dolphins.
It seems we have been seelcted out of the Earth's genome to develop consciousness sow e may take Gaia to other worlds. But first we need to learn how to be in this world. Otherwise we will be a plague, a cancer going from world to world to install capitalist economic system that divide people on a galactic scale.
If I had a button and a choice between human annihilation back to the stone age for a retry and a race in space to new worlds we can rape with our bad norms ans values, I'd bring us back to the stone age, no questions asked.
Personally who cares about all the money, etc. I just want off planet earth and onto another world just like it without the sea of endless breeding morons.
Then share my point of view.