Originally Posted by Dissident
So, do you think we can really actually choose to believe in something?
For us to be totally free agents there'd have to be a break in cause & effect.
If one reads the thoughts of thinkers of the past one might note a bias from their culture influencing their opinions without them recognizing it.
If one looks at mice you might note the predictability of their behavior and be able to foretell what they do, with a rather high rate of successful prediction.
If you look at ants, the rate of success in prediction goes up.
If you look at the simplest organism, you'll be able to predict its behavior almost perfectly.
If you look at chemicals you can do so even closer to perfection in rate of success.
If you look at quantum crap then it's inherently unpredictable.
They say god rolls dice. So, he doesn't roll dice in the syense we used to predict crap for ages and ages, but at the cutting edge of our theories, it's proposed that he does? ...
It's cliche, but it seems to follow that an organism as advanced compared to us as we are to an amoeba would be able to completely predict our actions up to the molecular level, or something, u kno?
So, how does our concept of the freedom of choice fit into possible total determinism? Do you have no actual free will, is it an illusion?
I'd say that our free will is an effect, yes, but also a cause, and that we simply don't understand the cause to the effect of what we know as the freedom of choice.
Thus what we see as free will takes part in forming the completely deterministic system.
aka, reciprocal determinism