Originally Posted by Tekton
I agree that the concept of no free will can make people reconsider their morality, and laws, taking a more deeper look into society.
But the thing is... that only matters if there IS free will.
If there is none, there is no decision making since there is no choice. Everything is scripted. So there is no "realization" or "developing" of anything. No morality can exist when there is no choice. There will always be the appearance of it... but that's just how the world is "destined" to unfold.
Guess we'll never know...
Regardless of the fact that we do not have total impossible and illogical control over our actions, we still effect each other and ourselves with our actions (even they are out of our "control"). When I make an argument I am a determinism force against your held conceptions, the reast of your life will be effected in relation to the clarity and merit of my points.
Unfortunately we haven't developed a (possibly unnecessary) way of talking which fits deterministic principles perfectly, so it is necessary to consider what reaization is conceptually in a deterministic landscape. The recognition of new data by your brain is realization.
Isn't this a contradiction? If there is no free will and spirituality, why would parenting become more important? I mean... the values you put in your childs mind... that action, that you think you decided to do... was inevitable, destined. So...
In spirituality, as I have said, I mean the feeling of constant assurance that the religious enjoy.
The values that people will put in their child's mind is the direct result of the values that have been put in the minds of them by others (and so on). Therefore it is still important to push for the general education of people's ideals and understandings and always important to maintain the debate on all topics.
No, I am not chosing to say these things, they are the result of a personality forged by strained relationships during my youth, genetics and chance reacting with new information. Regardless, You will be convinced by my arguments that the preserverence of the human race will be forwarded by the entry of deterministic ideas into the global understandings of human beings.
What everyone does will be in reaction to what everyone else does, and the megalomaniacal impulses that have been fostered within me since the age of 6 push my reasonings to utilise this new understanding and reshape the world in the image of reason, no fool god stands in my way (not that that had ever stopped me).