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Old 20th-October-2015, 11:38 PM   #1
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http://cognitivedynamics.blogspot.se...-2-online.html

It is somewhat complicated to interpret but interesting nonetheless. I hear it's a often used test in psychiatry though. Sadly doesn't seem to be any easy way to copy the result table.

It wasn't too inaccurate, though I think a bit excessive in some areas for me. I believe I can dismiss some of that via the validity "fake-bad" correction as I got about the scores for that. (Schizoid level score on schizophrenia and above normal on depression even assuming a small validity correction). Which seems fairly accurate.

I really disliked some of the questions though as they leave room for interpretation(also the reason I can do a fake-bad correction).

Fair warning this test can take hours to complete and interpret.
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Old 21st-October-2015, 08:30 AM   #2
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I note that the infrequency (F) score is a measurement of how different and special you are. Let's compete. Mine is 104.
You win mine was only 79 ^.^
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K 45
L 56

Schizophrenia 77
Depression 70
Psychathenia 66


Subjective depression 74
Psychomotor retardation 76
Mental dullness 82
Brooding 85
Lassitude-mallaise 75
Familial discord 78
Social alienation 67 and 84 on the two different ones
Emotional alienation 69
Lack of ego mastery cognitive(72)
Lack of ego mastery conative (87)
Amorality 74 (and I have no fantasy world excuses >.>)
Martial distress 83 ( I think this includes lack of love/sex lives in general)
Social discomfort 71
Post traumatic stress disorder 75
Low positive emotions 72
Psychoticism 68
Cynicism 50... lol
Introversion 73
Lack of drive 89
Dysphoria 74
Suicidal ideation 79
Familial alienation 76
Low motivation 71
Everything else is mostly normal

This was surprisingly fun writing up.

Btw gopher I think only people from this forum would consider 69 in schizophrenia as fairly low XD

And I really don't care for ethics Emma, besides most people on this forum are capable of taking the results in stride anyway.
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Old 21st-October-2015, 10:37 AM   #3
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Surprisingly normal across the board (38-60), with a few exceptions:
Masculine Gender Role 53
Feminine Gender Role 66 (not sure what this means)

Repression 69
Lack of Ego Mastery, Conative 65
Lassitude-malaise 66
Social Alienation 64
Introversion / Low Positive Emotionality 64
Introversion 62
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F - 61
L - 41
K - 39

Didn't score 65+ in any of the 10 clinical scales. Highest one was Social Introversion at 63.

Lack of Ego Mastery, Conative - 71
Social Discomfort - 68
Social Avoidance - 67
Depression, Obvious - 65
Introversion - 79

Everything else was below 65, mostly in the 45-55 range. Somewhat surprised. Actually kind of annoyed that I didn't find out anything new after spending so much time doing the test >=|
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F 75
L 52
K 46

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Depression 79
Depression, Obvious 75
Subjective Depression 67

Psychomotor Retardation 68
Mental Dullness 79

Low Self-esteem 68
Self-Doubt 80
Lack of Ego Mastery, Cognitive 80
Lack of Ego Mastery, Conative 65

Family Problems 65
Work Interference 67
General Health Concerns 71

Repression 65
Ideas of Persecution 67
Psychathenia 68

Introversion / Low Positive Emotionality 81
Introversion 76
Shyness 65
Social Introversion 66
Social Alienation 69
Social Avoidance 69
Social Discomfort 77

I'm not depressed. The results of repression, psychasthenia and ideas of persecution I think is mostly due to thinking a specific way that's not necessarily related to those or at least they are not as prominent in thought.

Work and family are ok, high scores reflect degree of bothersomeness and difficulties more than problems.

Social introversion and low self esteem doesn't come as a surprise.
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Old 21st-October-2015, 05:53 PM   #6
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The internet is the lazy mans tool:

Lassitude-malaise 75
Lack of drive 89
Dysphoria 74
Low motivation 71

Maybe later(lol)
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Old 21st-October-2015, 11:29 PM   #7
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The test is pretty complicated, especially in terms of validating the answer (and the test giver would also be meeting/interviewing the taker face to face, giving them additional impressions by which to consider the responses). I think this might have been one of the tests I took in my late 20's, and I was such a mess at the time I think all my answers were heavily negative; that the guy just interviewed me for a long time in order to be able to provide some feedback. So if you're interested in seriously using the results for something, a qualified professional opinion would be more useful.

Anyway, all that being said, I'll list the categories I got over a 70 in, which are pretty much what I expected:

Social Introversion (Si): 74
Emotional Alienation (Sc2): 76
Lack of Ego Mastery (Sc4): 80
Shyness/Self-Consciousness (Si1): 71
Social Avoidance (Si2): 74
Depression (DEP): 72
Social Discomfort (SOD): 80
Anxiety (A): 71
Marital Distress (MDS): 72
Low Positive Emotions (lpe): 70
Introversion (INT): 73
Lack of Drive (DEP1): 80
Introversion (SOD1): 79
Familial Alienation (FAM2): 77

Obviously proper scaling could impact things further.

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Surprisingly normal across the board (38-60), with a few exceptions:
Masculine Gender Role 53
Feminine Gender Role 66 (not sure what this means)
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Scale 5: Masculinity–Femininity

MALES

High (T-score > 80): Men who attain high scores on this scale show conflict about sexual identity. They are insecure in their masculine role; are effeminate; have aesthetic and artistic interests; are intelligent and capable; value cognitive pursuits; are ambitious, competitive, and persevering; are clever, clear-thinking, organized, and logical; and show good judgment and common sense. They are curious; creative, imaginative, and individualistic in their approach to problems; sociable; sensitive to others; tolerant; capable of expressing warm feelings toward others; and passive, dependent, submissive, and peace-loving. They make concessions to avoid confrontations. They have good self-control and they rarely act out.

High Scorers (T-score 70–79): Males in this range on the Masculinity-Femininity scale may be viewed as sensitive, insightful, tolerant, effeminate, broad in cultural interests, submissive, and passive. (In clinical settings, the patient might show sex role confusion or heterosexual adjustment problems.)

Low Scorers (T-score < 35): Men who score low on this scale are often viewed as having a “macho” self-image. They present themselves as extremely masculine; strong and physically adept, aggressive, thrill-seeking, adventurous, and reckless; coarse, crude, and vulgar; and doubtful about their own masculinity. They have a narrow range of interests, an inflexible and unoriginal approach to problems, and seem to prefer action to thought.

FEMALES

High Scorers (T-score > 70): Females who score high on this scale tend to reject traditional female roles and activities. They show masculine interests in work, sports, and hobbies. They are described as active, vigorous, and assertive; competitive, aggressive, and dominating; coarse, rough, and tough; outgoing, uninhibited, and self-confident; easy-going, relaxed, and balanced; logical and calculated; and unemotional and unfriendly.

Low Scorers (T-score < 35): These women describe themselves in terms of the stereotyped female role and show doubts about their own femininity. They tend to be passive, submissive, and yielding in relationships. They defer to males in decision-making. They may show self-pity through complaining and/or fault-finding. They are seen as constricted, sensitive, modest, and idealistic.


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Masculine Gender Role 50
Feminine Gender Role 30
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F: 79
Fb: 79
Fp: 2(Raw Score)
L: 52
K: 49

Hypochondriasis: 48

Depression: 80
  • D1: 82
  • D2: 76
  • D3: 59
  • D4: 82
  • D5: 79

Hysteria: 57

Psychopathic Deviate: 77
  • Pd1: 51
  • Pd2: 68
  • Pd3: 40
  • Pd4: 73
  • Pd5: 72

Masculinity-Femininity - Male: 44
Masculinity-Femininity - Female: Undefined

Paranoia: 57

Psychathenia: 66

Schizophrenia: 80
  • Sc1: 88
  • Sc2: 59
  • Sc3: 60
  • Sc4: 65
  • Sc5: 75
  • Sc6: 65

Hypomania: 59

Social Introversion: 75
  • Si1: 59
  • Si2: 71
  • Si3: 68
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I'm trying to take this test but some of the questions are too open.

"someone has it in for me"

this sounds like such a simple question... but its not.
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"i seem to be as capable and smart as others around me"


Come on.. I cant answer that. the answer is no.... I am much more capable and smarter than other around me. a negative answer denotes a lack of confidence. A positive answer denotes a lack of confidence.
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"I believe I am being plotted against"

I don't believe it is happening right now, but when I do think it I am correct.
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"i am never happy unless I am travelling or roaming around"


Does that count researching online?
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You are not suppose to make double posts.
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"i often feel as if thing are not real"

the problem with me answering this is that I can see how the unrealness of things is actually what causes them to be real.
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"i have strange and peculiar thoughts"

how do you reference this?
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"I have gotten angry and broken furniture or dishes when I was drinking."

I don't do it drunk, I do it sober.
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"I have gotten angry and broken furniture or dishes when I was drinking."

I don't do it drunk, I do it sober.
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Nooooo, I like him he seems even more open/straightforward than me XD. Besides every post is about something new, if he just edited I might miss it.

Also, this shows somewhat of a coundry when it comes to questioners... Should you answer in the spirit of the question or based on the strict formulation. This test is worse than most on this.
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You are not suppose to make double posts.
My apologies. I cant remember anything long enough to wait to say it.
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why?
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Nooooo, I like him he seems even more open/straightforward than me XD. Besides every post is about something new, if he just edited I might miss it.

Also, this shows somewhat of a coundry when it comes to questioners... Should you answer in the spirit of the question or based on the strict formulation. This test is worse than most on this.
I am here to learn about myself, how can anyone give me feed back if I don't show me for who I am?

We have to remember that the reality we exist in is has rules we must obey, but the reality we live in is almost entirely individual perception. Non-linear actions, like this conversation, have commanding control over what we do in our linear existence, based on personal perception. Like a duality in space/time, without the non-linear progression. Non-linear action is known as free will. In other words we are all individuals.
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I am here to learn about myself, how can anyone give me feed back if I don't show me for who I am?

We have to remember that the reality we exist in is has rules we must obey, but the reality we live in is almost entirely individual perception. Non-linear actions, like this conversation, have commanding control over what we do in our linear existence, based on personal perception. Like a duality in space/time, without the non-linear progression. Non-linear action is known as free will. In other words we are all individuals.
Personally I have more of the attitude " Why should I care about interacting with people who don't want to interact with who I really am." So I answer as honestly as I can and let them decide if they want anything to do with me.

I can't figure out how your second paragraph is related to anything I wrote in my previous post.
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Personally I have more of the attitude " Why should I care about interacting with people who don't want to interact with who I really am." So I answer as honestly as I can and let them decide if they want anything to do with me.

I can't figure out how your second paragraph is related to anything I wrote in my previous post.
The second paragraph of my comment says what you said here.
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Personally I have more of the attitude " Why should I care about interacting with people who don't want to interact with who I really am." So I answer as honestly as I can and let them decide if they want anything to do with me.

I can't figure out how your second paragraph is related to anything I wrote in my previous post.
You should change your siggy to "I'll stop thinking when I die". I tell my close friends and family that on a daily basis.
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You should change your siggy to "I'll stop thinking when I die". I tell my close friends and family that on a daily basis.
That doesn't sound as catchy. I like the sound of " I die when I stop thinking" more. I guess I technically should have a comma somewhere in the statement for the catchiness to be noticed, but I feel reluctant to distract from the statement by adding one.
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That doesn't sound as catchy. I like the sound of " I die when I stop thinking" more. I guess I technicaly should have a comma somewhere in the sentence for the catchiness to be noticed, but I feel reluctant to distract from the statement by adding one.
Personal perception.

This is interesting because when I speak to you guys I generally don't have to wonder why you say what you mean.
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Also, now that I think about it the two statements have different intentions. Mine denotes that I am alive as long as I am still thinking(no matter the state). While yours focuses on the fact that you won't stop questioning things while you are still alive.
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Also, now that I think about it the two statements have different intentions. Mine denotes that I am alive as long as I am still thinking(no matter the state). While yours focuses on the fact that you won't stop questioning things while you are still alive.
I saw that before I said something. That's why I personally like my version better.
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I don't like the limitations of reality much so I read a lot and like to fantasize myself away to fantasy/sci-fi worlds(usually realistic ones under certain assumptions). My statement is to remind me(and point out) that things like cloning/afterlife's/teleportation/reincarnation doesn't really mean much in regards to who I am(assuming my personality and thoughts are intact).
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I don't like the limitations of reality much so I read a lot and like to fantasize myself away to fantasy/sci-fi worlds(usually realistic ones under certain assumptions). My statement is to remind me(and point out) that things like cloning/afterlife's/teleportation/reincarnation doesn't really mean much in regards to who I am(assuming my personality and thoughts are intact).
You have to consider "what is reality?" to even imagine limitations. the limitation can be a function of reality or of the individual. Einstein proved that by just imagining nuclear fusion.
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some times I give myself chills when I think about this stuff. just made the hair on the back of my neck stand up. I love the stimulating conversation.
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You have to consider "what is reality?" to even imagine limitations. the limitation can be a function of reality or of the individual. Einstein proved that by just imagining nuclear fusion.
Sure I think about it sometimes but in the end the answer doesn't really matter to me. I prefer to focus on myself as that is what I really care about. Who am I? What am I? If I change in x way am I still I? Does it matter?

As for limitation I can imagine it by a simple statement.
" I want to do x, I can't do x, it's extremely unlikely that I can learn x with my means, therefore x is an insurmountable limitation." I want to do magic, I can't do magic, it's extremely unlikely that I can learn to do magic cuz physics, therefore me doing magic is an insurmountable limitation. (Just made all of this up XD) the hypothetical state of reality doesn't really change this.

Also some of the malevolent things I can think of when you have magic/ sci-fi tech at your disposal is scary...
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Sure I think about it sometimes but in the end the answer doesn't really matter to me. I prefer to focus on myself as that is what I really care about. Who am I? What am I? If I change in x way am I still I? Does it matter?

As for limitation I can imagine it by a simple statement.
" I want to do x, I can't do x, it's extremely unlikely that I can learn x with my means, therefore x is an insurmountable limitation." I want to do magic, I can't do magic, it's extremely unlikely that I can learn to do magic cuz physics, therefore me doing magic is an insurmountable limitation. (Just made all of this up XD) the hypothetical state of reality doesn't really change this.

Also some of the malevolent things I can think of when you have magic/ sci-fi tech at your disposal is scary...
You only assume it doesn't change it. It could be calculated that it does.

I feel like the egg came before the chicken and I can even explain it, by my definition if you change X you are no longer X but X+ the change.
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You only assume it doesn't change it. It could be calculated that it does.

I feel like the egg came before the chicken and I can even explain it, by my definition if you change X you are no longer X but X+ the change.
But am I not already assuming if I pretend to be in a fantasy world? I just prefer separating what I see as reality with what I assume and pretend in regards to it.
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I see.

I construct elaborate structures in my mind and play in them with my own set of rules that I can modify at will. this is one reason it can be so difficult to transfer my understanding to others. sometimes the whole of it can't be quantified with language. I draw pictures but I'm a horrid artist.
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Hmm interesting idea, as it is I care very little about how the basics of reality works( physics, exact mathematics ect.). Actually that's kinda my "issue" and why I am very lazy. I really don't care much about anything because nihilism/ depression ect. Really hard to be motivated for even things I might enjoy doing(like figuring out how reality works).

Though I guess I often do something similar just with a different focus.
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my motivation is that I feel like I can understand it completely AND fix the problems with a new model. yes, its quite insane.

I use physics to understand anything else I want to think about. any function of reality, excluding free will. people confuse me. Politics and religion are easy to explain with physics, individual human action is not.
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my motivation is that I feel like I can understand it completely AND fix the problems with a new model. yes, its quite insane.

I use physics to understand anything else I want to think about. any function of reality, excluding free will. people confuse me. Politics and religion are easy to explain with physics, individual human action is not.
Idk I find individual action easy to see and explain if you have enough data about a person and the events sourounding the action. The actions aren't random but the basis for those actions are not the same as for you or me, do you maybe use yourself as a reference?

Now trying to guess what this "basis" and the events sourounding something is can be harder.
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We have to remember that the reality we exist in is has rules we must obey, but the reality we live in is almost entirely individual perception. Non-linear actions, like this conversation, have commanding control over what we do in our linear existence, based on personal perception. Like a duality in space/time, without the non-linear progression. Non-linear action is known as free will. In other words we are all individuals.
try to keep up lol. jk

but yeah if I gather data on a person I can explain their actions easily... just ask any of my many ex-girlfriends.
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See, nothing confusing about how people work, just a lack of sufficient information. ^.^

I can't tell you if intelligent aliens exists because I lack sufficient information to do so... same problem, hardly anything to be bothered about.
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the problem is on an individual basis with new people or people who have a formed mis placed opinion of me or who have a misconceived idea of their potential that gets blown out the door when I walk in. I have been called course.
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people call me arrogant, but I see it as honesty.
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try to keep up lol. jk

but yeah if I gather data on a person I can explain their actions easily... just ask any of my many ex-girlfriends.
What am not going to do next?
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Hmm, makes me worried I'll have the same problems when I start working. I don't have this problem in group work in university atm but then again everyone I am working with is pretty much as smart as me.
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What am not going to do next?
Its not about the what but the potential for what.

My answer: you have the potential to do one of a few things that I can perceive. Those are 1) send me a message 2) reply to this comment 3) reply to another comment or 4) nothing

As stated above there is not enough data for me to know.
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haha I just saw the "not" in your reply.

With that being said the answer is incalculable.
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Its not about the what but the potential for what.

My answer: you have the potential to do one of a few things that I can perceive. Those are 1) send me a message 2) reply to this comment 3) reply to another comment or 4) nothing

As stated above there is not enough data for me to know.
That's the second time you made me laugh today XD.

Though I can't remember what the first time was... My memory sucks, oh well
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Its not about the what but the potential for what.

My answer: you have the potential to do one of a few things that I can perceive. Those are 1) send me a message 2) reply to this comment 3) reply to another comment or 4) nothing

As stated above there is not enough data for me to know.
1.) I'm likely not going to send you a message (mostly because I don't usually send them to anyone).

2.) I am replying to this comment

3.) Not yet

4.) What do you mean "nothing"? One cannot do nothing.

Your first answer was correct, however, if you would have just said that I would have given you full credit. As is, I can give you 3/8 credit. Do you follow?
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haha I just saw the "not" in your reply.

With that being said the answer is incalculable.
I feel as tho you missed this. quick.
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I feel as tho you missed this. quick.
I told you if you were correct on your first answer... wasn't that good enough?

You obviously think of me as a dimwit for missing such an easily observable occurrence. Perhaps you will think of me as at least a teeny tiny bit smarter than you originally thought?
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