Re: Banned for Science?
I quit INTPforum angrily several months ago, after the election. Turns out you can't actually delete an account. I was prepared to ignore INTPf forever, but the recent conviction of Allen Scarsella shooting BLM protesters in MN, caused me to come back to finish an old thread. A case of "I told you so". My return less than 24 hours ago did have an unintended net positive effect on the forum. It made a temp ban on a certain poster permanent, although that may have happened eventually anyways. I'm glad I was able to precipitate it sooner rather than later, just by showing up and talking about reality.
Why did I quit angrily, calling various people out several months ago? I had spent way too much time going "ten rounds" with proponents of the alt-right. That was 2/3rds of why I left.
Sinny's never ending conspiracy theories were also terribly frustrating to me. I identify as a Scientific Skeptic, i.e. Sinny is my opposite number in that regard. Also she is by no stretch of the imagination INTP. Diversity is one thing, but when someone is using their basic impulses to annoy the heck out of me and seemingly others, that's another. I would say she's 1/3 of why I left.
I liked her as a person in a number of ways, but I also saw that she "got into it" with a number of other forum participants. Collectively, they probably had a right to remove her many times. Because I see good in her, unlike maybe other people who got into it more, I had hoped that she might soften or change what she does in some way. But I think she is too deeply bitten by conspiracies to behave rationally in that regard. I think she's "on a mission" and doesn't care how annoying it is to anyone else.
In my personal life, my track record for "ameliorating or changing the ways of" a deeply bitten conspiracy theorist, is wholly negative. I've lost a few friends. I've learned from bitter experience that you cannot deal with such people rationally, that no amount of argument or debate will help them. They will resent you for telling them the truth about their lives, and then they will pick at you. There are deep emotional phobias driving their behavior. Although there may be someone or some group effort that could make headway with such a person's problems, such as when rescuing a cult member from cult induced phobias, it takes a lot of hand holding to get done. For a long time. I don't have enough in me, myself, to be that warm fuzzy supportive person. Simply put I'm a 'T', not a 'F'.
So, learning that the social experiment of removing Sinny was performed, I am surprised, but not shocked. I usually feel sorry when things end that way. Very few people are truly "irredeemable" (although that does happen, as I've also helped prove in one case). But many people are going to have their problems for a long enough time, that it isn't a community's burden to bear them anymore. Change does have to come from within, and a fair number of people are at a point in their life where, they ain't changin'.