Political Beliefs in Relation to MBTI Type

[Weirdo87]

I'm curious if there is a correlation between personality type (especially INTP) and political beliefs.

What are everyone's political allegiances? Do you guys believe that one's personality shapes their political beliefs, or, alternatively, that one's political beliefs can shape their persolality?

As for me, I'm pretty far to the left (some people call me a socialist ).

[fullerene]

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Twice



Judging by the other things I've seen in here, you'll probably want to add a "libertarian" choice in that poll too. Barring that, though, I'll go with "screw politics!"

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Libertarian rarrarararara

Also we should add "fiscal liberal & social conservative". Ya know, the totalitarians. And then we can put their names on a list- they won't mind- and hunt them down with vigilant justice!

[spockguy]

Personally, I'm an anarcho-capitalist, in the vain of Murray Rothbard (Even though, ironically, i used to consider myself a libertarian socialist..)... Anyways, SJ's tend to be socially conservative in general, in vain of the evangelical right, supporters of the status quo. NF's typically leaning towards progressive liberalism, and SP's more economically conservative from what I can tell.. NT's tend to correlate well with the libertarian spectrum of belief, if not, typically the radical left (communism, libertarian socialism, the american progressive left, etc.... After all, i'm pretty damn sure Karl Marx himself was an INTP) Of course I can't back this up with proof, just my own personal emperical studies shows such correlation, so don't believe what i'm saying, discover for yourself =P.

one could argue that libertarianism is actually the REAL political right (especially in an economic sense), in comparison to egalitarian beliefs such as communism atleast =P. But... Screw Politics!

[IfloatTHRUlife]

I don't think i have enough breathe left in my life to say all the things i hate about politics and the government.. so i wont start, i am just going to run away to the INTP island

[Vegard Pompey]

I am decently content with the political climate in Sweden, which I guess would be slightly to the left, so I voted for that.

[Legionnaire]

I'm a registered democrat but my views are more central.

[wadlez]

Anarcho capitilism, I used to be socialist when i was younger but after being taught some economics and reading up on goverment, history etc for years, I learnt that capitilism is the best way.

[del]

Originally Posted by wadlez

Anarcho capitilism, I used to be socialist when i was younger but after being taught some economics and reading up on goverment, history etc for years, I learnt that capitilism is the best way.

I was the opposite: started off more anarcho-capitalist and moved to the libertarian "left" over the years.

[didyouknow]

I don't think that politics could ever correspond with personality type considering it is a matter of opinion. Neither left or right-wing is better, both have their advantages. Therefore, even though INTPs are more likely to be interested in politics than perhaps other types, we cannot correlate type with political ideologies because more knowledge does not equal following a specific ideology.

[Da Blob]

Originally Posted by Weirdo87

I'm curious if there is a correlation between personality type (especially INTP) and political beliefs.

What are everyone's political allegiances? Do you guys believe that one's personality shapes their political beliefs, or, alternatively, that one's political beliefs can shape their persolality?

As for me, I'm pretty far to the left (some people call me a socialist ).

Silly me I started a new thread, when this one was already going...
I am too cynical to be political. I had a pledge son at Fraternity whose dad was the mayor of St. Louis, Missouri. He explained to me that politics was just the business of pandering one's candidate to one 'special interest' group at a time. I do not actually believe that there are two political parties in America, but only one, that is run by those with money. That being said - I've recently become involved in politics
(Ducks, in anticipation of rotten fruit thrown by INTPian audience)

Anyway, today I've been invited to participate on an online forum
overseen by David Plouffe, of the new Obama administration.

http://my.barackobama.com/neworganization

I think this forum may be open to the general public, but if not I can invite up to ten Others to participate with the goal of reforming the US government.
I believe that the opinions of non-citizens are wanted on a variety of issues..
(See step #2 of Kianara's Plan)
In any event, if you can't get on send me a PM and if you can, mention that Da Blob sent you and you might get moved up a level, as my avatar is known in certain circles...

(mostly among the Mediators and Moderators)

[sagewolf]

The more I know about politics, the more I want to kill every politician alive in painful and long-lasting ways. If isolated mountaintops had internet access, I would live on one.

So yeah. Screw politics.

[zxc]

Originally Posted by wadlez

Anarcho capitilism, I used to be socialist when i was younger but after being taught some economics and reading up on goverment, history etc for years, I learnt that capitilism is the best way.

Taught by the capitalists eh?

[NoID10ts]

Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made president should on no account be allowed to do the job.

- Douglas Adams

[FusionKnight]

True dat!

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Originally Posted by zxc

Taught by the capitalists eh?

Comeon, waldez is a decent INTP and ought to be able to see through any tricks the capitalist economics professors try to pull.

I met this one guy who had gone to George Mason University to study economics. (The department has two nobel laureates.) He switched majors after his sophomore year, for the reason "the more I got into it the more free-market capitalism they'd put in".

Heh. This anecdote doesn't prove anything... just backs up the idea that economists have a tendency to be more libertarian. I mean, even Obama's economic advisor is more free-market. Too bad he doesn't have much pull. Gotta appease the masses! Circuses & bread for everyone.

[Jordan~]

It's not too surprising that Obama's economic advisor is on the economic right, is it? He's further right than Thatcher - worrying that the furthest mainstream American left is further right than the furthest mainstream British right.

[Zealot]

I'm going to be completely honest, I really don't care about politics, and I pay them no attention whatsoever. Of course, I am not of voting age yet, so it really wouldn't matter. I imagine that once I can vote, I'll probably pay more attention, and actually figure out which one appeals to me.

[Anling]

I think our politics, at least here in the US, are rather messed up. I'm registered as an independent. I don't care to be associated with either major party. My vote in November for the libertarians was sort of a "Taste my insignificant wrath!" sort of moment.

[Ermine]

I'm also best defined as "independent". It's just kind of odd because sometimes I want to keep myself as far away from American politics as I can, and other times, I want to help build and pioneer a strong third party that can compete with the democrats and republicans.

[Xel]

I consider myself a socialist in that I think workers should own the means of production collectively. But I might change since I've started reading the first volume of Das Kapital. When I finish with that (will be a long time lol) I'll read some criticism of it see which one I think is more correct.
I have a weird conservative bent that colors even lefty-est of ideas.
Generally distrustful of government involvement, but willing to let some happen if it works better.

[NiDBiLD]

That two-party system you americans tend to pride yourself on is fatally flawed, according to my opinion.

Technocracy has always been a much better idea. Something as fuzzy, unreliable, subjective and opinion-based as ideology should not ever come near a government building in the first place.

Governance should not be a matter of opinion. It is a matter of problem solving, and the problems are kept alive by conservative, paleocratic trilobites for whom power and law is more important than actually doing anything right.

[Jordan~]

Recently I came to be of the opinion that an oligarchy of the enlightened is required, with the full knowledge that it's a temporary measure the sole purpose of which is to prepare the world for the singularity and the following revolution in every aspect of life. After this, government would be dissolved altogether, and transhumans would live in anarchy, and much of the time outside society in sustained simulations.

[Upgrayedd]

http://www.politicaltypes.com/content/view/24/56/

This article breaks down voting tendencies based on personality type. INTP shows the least proclivity towards voting Democrat at 17%, and the highest for voting Independent at 49%. Republican comes in at 34%.

Seems about right to me as I consider myself to be a libertarian which I guess falls into independent and not Democrat.

[Words]

Most intellectual choice would be "left".

[bananaphallus]

Originally Posted by Words

Most intellectual choice would be "left".

What makes you say that? I'm just curious...

[Words]

it leads to more progress than the rest of the choices. Politics affects individuals and more importantly affects the whole world. By choosing "screw politics", your choosing a "no selection" of doom against potential threats as an individual. By choosing everything else, your stagnating the growth of knowledge, morality and safety.

[shoeless]

are we talking fiscally/governmentally? assuming so, i have no goddamn clue, which is sad 'cause i just got out of an economics class.

i do, however, think that the success of various systems is completely dependent on the state of the world. look at the great depression -- hoover's ultra-conservative "WE DO NOTHING" approach obviously fucked the country over even more than it already was, and then roosevelt comes in and he's like, bitch step aside, and saves the day with his super-democratic approach. even if it left the country with an assload of deficit. (lucky we got in a war...?)

but nowadays, that might not work so well. it reaaaaaally depends on the state of affairs. unfortunately that's as far as my analysis goes, because i'm not well enough aware of the state of affairs to have an opinion.

(although i do like the idea of fiscal conservatism in theory. socially, however, i'm so far on the left i'm off the goddamn map. so i guess that makes me some breed of libertarian?)

[Sparrow]

Center-left

[FrostFern]

Overall I'd just say "left".

I'm just a boring middle-of-the-road liberal on economic issues. IMHO, it's pretty pointless to subscribe to a political ideology in order to feel unique. Neither market-anarchy nor communism/socialism are viable systems in the real world. Libertarian / market-anarchist ideologies are just tools used to further the interests of a certain privileged sector of society.

I prefer a system that's both fair and functional. However US politics is skewed way, way, WAY the fuck to the right for reasons I can't quite comprehend. The people who think Obama is a socialist are idiots.

On social issues I'm quite libertarian. Government has no business instilling moral values or interfering with peoples' private lives.

[deserthighway]

Screw politics and then some! I agree with Nidbild, opinion has no place in government. It should be look at in terms of problem solving. However I concede that no all problems are so simple to solve and are subjective.

Reason should prevail but those who reason well know better than to get involved in government.

[oldspice]

Originally Posted by del

I was the opposite: started off more anarcho-capitalist and moved to the libertarian "left" over the years.

Yeah, Im tying to lean more left too. Who inspired you most to shift left. I just cant see any real economic arguments against free markets. I am all for mutuals and coops that are self-sustaining in a free market. These institutions are fascinating to me. But, I cant see an entirely left-anarchist society that can still be economically progressing.

[Double-Think]

I'd have to say I'm an Anarcho-communist, or libertarian socialist >> see Chomsky, Murray Bookchin, Emma goldman, Proudhon, Kropotkin.

[420MuNkEy]

Independent, but I tend to agree with Libertarian views most.

[Keary]

While my personal political precept changes as my mood changes (must have bi-polar or something) I normally assume that I am along the left wing spectrum. Although, I would mostly consider myself a Libertarian Socialist, since I actually believe in freedom and think that the money the government gets in tax and theft (is there a difference?) should be put into helping those left fortunate in ones country, and if possible, to help those in other nations. Despite this I do find myself have anarchist outbursts; these usually consist of Individualist or mutualist ideologies, sometime pacifist though only after we force the government into non-existence by force.
Hope that helps in some way, this has actually helped my as well in clearing up my own political beliefs, thanks for something and sorry for something else.

[Lobstrich]

Socialistic Social darwinist. If that's even a 'view'
That's what I am though.. I believe in helping, community and other 'leftie-stuff' if you may. But to a limit. If people get help, and waste it? If they throw away their opportunity. Why keep helping them?

[Spectrum]

Politics can fuck themselves. I'd love to destroy them with the rest of humanity.

[Starfruit M.E.]

I don't like politicians. I think we need to throw some people in the government who look at economics and data and not just how they will be viewed and what they need to do to be reelected. No one person should be on top. Just committees of INFORMED people who read EVERYTHING they sign into law. EVERYTHING should be put to a vote unless immediate action must be taken. If so, the committee will take action, but then a vote must be called ASAP afterwards on the issue and the people are allowed to veto the decision based on majority. Direct elections (no electoral college etc.) so that you represent yourself. Who needs a representative if you're voting anyways?? That said, you shouldn't be able to vote on an issue unless you're informed and pass a test on the facts of it covering both sides of the issue and the repercussions of the decision. The test should be randomized as to avoid cheats, and can be open notes.... online help... whatever. So long as the people have to research before they can vote on a topic.
Anyways, I could talk more, but I shall resist. I'm right side for economic purposes, based on what I've researched. Left on many other issues. But I am never undecided or in the "middle" or "center" of and issue. So I do not associate myself with that. I just say I'm an indy.

[walfin]

Originally Posted by Starfruit M.E.

I don't like politicians. I think we need to throw some people in the government who look at economics and data and not just how they will be viewed and what they need to do to be reelected. No one person should be on top. Just committees of INFORMED people who read EVERYTHING they sign into law. EVERYTHING should be put to a vote unless immediate action must be taken. If so, the committee will take action, but then a vote must be called ASAP afterwards on the issue and the people are allowed to veto the decision based on majority. Direct elections (no electoral college etc.) so that you represent yourself. Who needs a representative if you're voting anyways?? That said, you shouldn't be able to vote on an issue unless you're informed and pass a test on the facts of it covering both sides of the issue and the repercussions of the decision. The test should be randomized as to avoid cheats, and can be open notes.... online help... whatever. So long as the people have to research before they can vote on a topic.

How nice it is to see idealism.

Not all of us have it anymore.

[Words]

Originally Posted by walfin

How nice it is to see idealism.

Not all of us have it anymore.

Ideals promote growth. It is possible to have an honest government.

[LifeLine]

I think that as you get into more sophisticated technology, you'll encounter fewer right wingers. I believe that right wingers tend to value forums and such less, which is why there is such a disproportionate representation on the internet. This place is half Atheist/Agnostic, which is way more than the minority that we really are.

PS: I'm rather liberal, but I believe in things like keeping a strong military, too. So, label me left unless a Libertarian option appears!