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  1. The Grey Man

    Motion pictures v. Stationary words

    It is obvious to everyone who views a building In the Ancient Greek style what is the burden and what is the support: the architrave and the columns respectively. This is because there is a plain visual distinction between support and burden where the columns meet the architrave. In Gothic...
  2. The Grey Man

    Plant eating

    The reason I said that "I" means this subjective moment is because the continuation of the "I" as opposed to the "he" beyond the present moment is an illusion, just like the convergence of a road at the horizon that makes it look like the inviolable distinction between the road and the country...
  3. The Grey Man

    Times you've changed your mind

    Yes, yes, yes! But I don't think it's quite right to say that the objective aspect controls the subjective aspect. That two identical brains must have two identical minds as their subjective aspects seems to be no more and no less justified a claim than that two identical minds must have two...
  4. The Grey Man

    Times you've changed your mind

    No, no, no! I did not interpret what you said in quotation marks that way, I did not even interpret it as something you said! How could I? It was in quotation marks! It was an ironic straw man argument of your own device! I "paraphrased" it, which is to say that I borrowed and modified your...
  5. The Grey Man

    Times you've changed your mind

    I don't know how I can be any more clear that my goal is to stimulate discussion. I literally say it all the time: I don't write stuff just to hear myself talk, I actually want to know what other people think of Kant, Schopenhauer, double-aspect theories, and so on. Point taken. The...
  6. The Grey Man

    Times you've changed your mind

    You don't have to repeat yourself. I actually took that to heart and tried to make my writing in the "Plant eating" thread more accessible. I even included a personal anecdote!
  7. The Grey Man

    Times you've changed your mind

    I don't even want you to read my previous posts at this point. Since I'm "definitely wrong", I want you to show me what's right, even if it's only on a very minor point that won't take very much of your time to ventilate. I like I said in that thread you quoted, "I would like to be told I'm...
  8. The Grey Man

    Times you've changed your mind

    More seriously now, if seeing intellectual positions changed is a desideratum for you and you frankly disagree with a belief of mine (any of them, really), why don't you disabuse me of my error here and now?
  9. The Grey Man

    Times you've changed your mind

    If only you were more open-minded and curious, you would see that I'm right. I guess you're just not INTP enough.
  10. The Grey Man

    Times you've changed your mind

    Just now, in the "Plant eating" thread, I denied the truth of dualism, animal (and, implicitly, human) rights, utilitarianism, and, consequently, all political theories based on their implicit foundations, while asserting the truth of dual-aspect monism, panpsychism and metempsychosis. Surely...
  11. The Grey Man

    Times you've changed your mind

    Open-mindedness is not a virtue. It is a frailty common to children and credulous adults who are thus continually abused by the cant and chicane of liars and scoundrels. Let an INTP be skeptical and conservative in his assessments. A position, once adopted, should meet mere vehement objection...
  12. The Grey Man

    Plant eating

    "I" means "here; this subjective moment", "he" means "there; that objective phenomenon". Both of us say "I am here" and, of the other, "he is there", and both of us are right. Both of us have a double aspect. "Are all mes me?": this is the answer to its own question and the question to its own...
  13. The Grey Man

    Plant eating

    With what do you think we are left when we abstract away from the objective correlates of our own subjective experience of pain everything that is not a mere physiological contingency? Is it not something very much like Le Chatelier's principle, that spontaneous tendency of physical systems in...
  14. The Grey Man

    Plant eating

    In order to identify objects other than our own bodies as objectifications of subjective pain, we must distinguish between which bodily phenomena are the necessary objective correlative of subjective pain and which are merely contingently manifest in moments of subjective pain. We must isolate...
  15. The Grey Man

    The Random Thoughts Thread

    So another person whom I hold in some esteem probably thinks I'm crazy...damn it, this is why I don't talk!
  16. The Grey Man

    Plant eating

    If you're asking what the value of a form of life is, you should have an idea of what life is. Otherwise you're just saying words with no connection to reality. If I'm not being too presumptuous in inferring that, because it has intrinsic value, a form of life must be an instance of...
  17. The Grey Man

    Plant eating

    A personal anecdote that may help illustrate my viewpoint: I ran for an unusually long distance this morning. Long-distance running is a humbling experience. What is five kilometres to us Westerners, who can drive from Chicago to New York or fly from New York to London in a day? What is ten...
  18. The Grey Man

    Plant eating

    My argument was not that animals do not have pain systems like ours, but that there does not seem to be any reason why subjective pain must necessarily have a pain system like ours as its objective correlative. If pain is merely a signal, a transfer of energy, why shouldn't every transfer of...
  19. The Grey Man

    Plant eating

    Suffering is technically negative feedback because it generally leads to its own decrease in magnitude as the brain takes action to rectify whatever state of affairs in the body caused the transmission of the signal. This is the "final cause" of pain, its function in the body as an adaptation...
  20. The Grey Man

    Plant eating

    It's reasonable to think that whatsoever has a pain system like ours feels pain, insofar as that pain system is the objective corollary of the subjective experience that is pain. But there's no reason to think that whatsoever feels pain has a pain system like ours. What is pain, objectively...
  21. The Grey Man

    Is "You have to really want it" stupid?/How stupid is "you have to really want it"?

    Not every swimmer will win the 1500m race in the 2020 Olympic Games, but that swimmer who does will not have been found wanting in willpower. To win the race will require willpower and an advantage over the competition conferred by factors outside one's control, both those which are already...
  22. The Grey Man

    What do you base your values on

    If I believed rejecting shouldism to be superior to shouldism, I could on no account be said to have rejected shouldism, since shouldism is the belief in the superiority of one action/value (effect/cause) to another. A shouldist may believe his values to be superior to those of a non-shouldist...
  23. The Grey Man

    Schopenhauer, Panpsychism, Nihilism

    :facepalm: I'm not sure what gives you the idea that I got the idea that the world is becoming less materialistic! I agree that society is becoming more focused on objectivity and less on morals- on seeing (objective aspect of consciousness) rather than feeling (subjective aspect), to tie in...
  24. The Grey Man

    Schopenhauer, Panpsychism, Nihilism

    Lots of people "know" what's good. People with strong morals. But, as I said before, human morals simply aren't for achieving what's good, they're for survival, even if the actual humans don't realize it. These morals are not based on, nor can they be refuted by any subtle argument any more than...
  25. The Grey Man

    Schopenhauer, Panpsychism, Nihilism

    It sounds like the ability to take an accurate measure of the utility of the effects of an action is presumed in the application of utilitarianism, which brings us back to the problem of distinguishing "conscious" from "unconscious" nature that I originally pointed out, not to mention the...
  26. The Grey Man

    Schopenhauer, Panpsychism, Nihilism

    If I do as you suggest and assume that some possible action of mine is better than its alternatives, the question remains, How is it that some possible action of mine is better than its alternatives? Since I don't even know that it is, I might ask, How is it that some action of mine is better...
  27. The Grey Man

    Schopenhauer, Panpsychism, Nihilism

    Now would seem a good time to move on from descriptive to prescriptive considerations, even if only to say that I have none to offer. The matter of my ethics, such as they are, is not the imperative, that law to which righteous conduct per se is bound (e.g. Kant's categorical imperative or the...
  28. The Grey Man

    Why is there a correspondence between Math/Physics and Technology?

    As I understand it, Einstein is half-right here. As far as the laws of mathematics are isomorphic with those of reality, they are certain, and as far as they are certain, that with which they are isomorphic is not certain to be real. And if a deductive system doesn't correspond perfectly to that...
  29. The Grey Man

    Schopenhauer, Panpsychism, Nihilism

    I would. I'd like to hear what you have to say on this.
  30. The Grey Man

    Schopenhauer, Panpsychism, Nihilism

    (This post started as a response to one of QuickTwist's posts, but now I guess it’s for everyone who has responded to or is viewing this thread.) A thing does not exist because we give it a name and ask after it. A thing exists because it exists because it exists…because existence is not an...
  31. The Grey Man

    Schopenhauer, Panpsychism, Nihilism

    I'm saying that, while we have every reason to believe that they influence each other, yet there remains an unbridgeable discontinuity of understanding between them, a 'problem of other minds'. To be alone in the abyss, haunted by phantasms of one's own creation, benevolent and malevolent, is...
  32. The Grey Man

    Schopenhauer, Panpsychism, Nihilism

    Both identities are essentially metacognitive inductive judgments. In consciousness, I feel certain acts of will. These are localised intensive features of experience that seem to influence subsequent events in space. For example, whenever I touch something very hot with my finger, there is...
  33. The Grey Man

    Schopenhauer, Panpsychism, Nihilism

    A separation of self from what? What do you mean by too broad? How much hitting the individual is enough? :confused:
  34. The Grey Man

    Schopenhauer, Panpsychism, Nihilism

    How can passion and suffering not be revealing? That I see a cow out in the field does not mean that, in any transcendent (extrasensory; noumenal) sense, there really is a cow out in the field, but that does not change the fact that I see it, however illusorily. Similarly, the pain I feel when I...
  35. The Grey Man

    Schopenhauer, Panpsychism, Nihilism

    That the "other" is possible means that the "I" is capable of comprehending it in concreto (i.e. as an actual, immanent object) only symbolically, as a representation of a part of a logical system which has as its objective corollary a conceptual structure embodied by a concomitant structure in...
  36. The Grey Man

    Schopenhauer, Panpsychism, Nihilism

    What follows is crude. Its purpose is to stimulate discourse and to respond to some posts made in the “Awaiting Orders” thread and in other places. Consider that central identity of Schopenhauer which has been shamelessly appropriated by his present-day coattail riders David Chalmers and...
  37. The Grey Man

    Awaiting Orders

    So you want things. Cool. I want things too :confused: My intent here was to have a conversation about what one ought to do, but I see now more distinctly than before that "ought" doesn't mean anything at all. In case anyone was wondering, I haven't forgotten about this thread, but I'm making...
  38. The Grey Man

    Awaiting Orders

    There's an important difference between God and Bugs Bunny. What you call life/existence, others call Creation. To you, the world has chance as its creative principle, to others, the Creator is God. Nobody seriously calls this Creator Bugs Bunny, because of that name's prior connotations. Now...
  39. The Grey Man

    Is Digital Art, Art?

    All four of those schools exist and all four are perverse. Art as concept is its politicization, art as "expression" its commodification and academicization, art as observation its reduction to a pedestrian record of external conditions, art as decoration its demotion to congenial piece of...
  40. The Grey Man

    Here's a dangerous idea!

    Another pass: The antidote to solipsism is not any conceptual tinker toy construct of the intellect, but will and only will. Understanding and reason only show one the path; one takes it because one wants to, because to act is just what it is to be. Decision-making is not and has never been...
  41. The Grey Man

    Here's a dangerous idea!

    No, I don't know everything. I know, am some of what is and none of what ought to be. Everything else is shrouded in uncertainty. It's not even clear to me that to speak of what "ought to be" does aught but indicate the unsatisfactoriness of one's present mental state in an unnecessarily...
  42. The Grey Man

    Oops, I meant to say panpsychist, not pantheist.

    Oops, I meant to say panpsychist, not pantheist.
  43. The Grey Man

    Mind you, this is not to say that I think that the only kind of suffering is the will to live...

    Mind you, this is not to say that I think that the only kind of suffering is the will to live. I'm more of a pantheist than that. Surely everywhere there is an objective push or a pull, there is the subjective striving, unsatisactoriness, even in sub-organic nature. Why not? Is this crazy?
  44. The Grey Man

    *Cognisant. Bloody autocorrect...

    *Cognisant. Bloody autocorrect...
  45. The Grey Man

    Hah! How apt was Cognizant to define life as that which suffers! And in my old What Is Suffering...

    Hah! How apt was Cognizant to define life as that which suffers! And in my old What Is Suffering thread, how apt was it to define suffering as a resistance to equilibrium (which Cog recognized)! The same truth described, first starting with the subjective, than the objective aspect, than moving...
  46. The Grey Man

    Humans, as all creatures, are manifestations of that which resists entropy: the gene, loosely...

    Humans, as all creatures, are manifestations of that which resists entropy: the gene, loosely speaking (as did Dawkins in his famous book). Or, as Schopenhauer put it, we are objectifications of the will to live.
  47. The Grey Man

    ...as a shorthand.

    ...as a shorthand.
  48. The Grey Man

    Time is only irreversible- that is, retrodiction is only impossible- when a system is described...

    Time is only irreversible- that is, retrodiction is only impossible- when a system is described macroscopically, which is really to say that it was described incompletely.
  49. The Grey Man

    Ohhh I think I see now. "Past" and "future" are labels for lower and higher entropy states than...

    Ohhh I think I see now. "Past" and "future" are labels for lower and higher entropy states than the present one respectively. It doesn't "flow" in this or that direction.
  50. The Grey Man

    I don't know if this is what you're talking about though. Maybe you're talking about cyclical time?

    I don't know if this is what you're talking about though. Maybe you're talking about cyclical time?
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