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  1. Cognisant

    One of the coolest bullet point lists I've seen in a while

    I think we're seeing a fragmentation of western culture into subcultures. A culture is defined by the values of the people in that culture, for example Christians value the sanctity of human life more than individual freedom whereas secular society values individual freedom more than the...
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    Culture Wars

    :applause:
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    Culture Wars

    Japan is an interesting mix of futurism and traditionalism, they're paradoxically one of the most non-religious cultures and yet they hold their shrines/temples and annual rituals in great esteem. More on this later.
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    Culture Wars

    Actually I was thinking these conflicts are so intractable because the people in them don't really understand why the other side is fighting, that each side has its own false narrative that paints the other as the bad guys and that if I better understood what each side really wants I might be...
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    Culture Wars

    I don't understand what you're saying, so probably not.
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    Culture Wars

    I think it's more like an identity crisis, that everyone feels like they're under attack because the things they identify with are being attacked, and the attackers see themselves merely responding to an initial attack that was never really intentional. For example the whole SJW gamergate...
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    Culture Wars

    Just an interesting observation, the argument "there can be no peace because they won't leave us alone" is being used by all sides. This applies to secularism vs religion, free media vs SJWs, vegans vs omnivores, nationalists vs globalists, etc.
  8. Cognisant

    Mainländer and the Death of God

    Edited out my quote. Yes but why? So the basis of all knowledge is subjective experience, yeah we know that, hence why we have the scientific method, hence my whole speech about how we're not infallible and learning is a process of making mistakes, we know but we don't care because we're past...
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    Biology Subforum

    But what about the lemons? People barely ever talk about the lemons, if we don't have a lemon dedicated subforum how will people find the lemon related threads to fulfill their lemony needs?
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    48 Hours

    An old lady at my work got that exact email about a week ago, we're treating it as a hoax.
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    Biology Subforum

    Clearly we need a lemon subforum.
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    Mainländer and the Death of God

    I'm in the physicalism camp, I think the mind is an emergent property of physical processes and the mind cannot exist independently of these physical processes, like computer software it only exists in the sense that it is stored on some kind of physical medium, even "cloud computing" isn't...
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    Mainländer and the Death of God

    Would you get drunk and declare "it is not me that wobbles, it is the world"? My subjective reality is a speculative fiction woven by fallible senses and incomplete knowledge, it's not perfect because I am not infallible and neither are you.
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    Cog's Case Against Religion

    Is that a death threat? I don't fear eternal damnation and yet I'm a lawful citizen, your point seems to be that you don't break the law because you do fear eternal damnation, does this mean that without the threat of eternal damnation you wouldn't be a law abiding citizen? Indeed we're not...
  15. Cognisant

    We need this here.

    Maintenance for Meatbags
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    Mainländer and the Death of God

    If a tree falls in the forest and there's nobody around to hear it that doesn't mean it fell silently, form gives meaning to matter but meaning is a human abstraction, if I die my subjective universe will cease but the physical universe will continue unabated by my absence. You're flirting with...
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    Mainländer and the Death of God

    I agree with this in the sense that as sandcastle is a form made out of sand everyday things like chairs, tables and people are forms made of atoms. I disagree with people who think these forms themselves somehow exist independent of their constituent parts, even the concept of a sandcastle...
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    Cog's Case Against Religion

    XD
  19. Cognisant

    It's me, Cog, the other Cog, or now the other other Cog.

    Your heritage or the micro-penis?
  20. Cognisant

    Halloween costume plans + SUPER awesome Halloween masks

    I spend all night telling people they've forgotten something that sounds plausible like paying a bill, feeding the cat, or turning the oven off, it's a conceptual costume I call "the onset of senility".
  21. Cognisant

    It's me, Cog, the other Cog, or now the other other Cog.

    It's no genocide, it's my life and I have a right to end it when and where I choose to, if anything this is discrimination against the multiply located, I counter-sue this court for holding me in contempt!
  22. Cognisant

    It's me, Cog, the other Cog, or now the other other Cog.

    Dammit I thought I killed them all. On an unrelated note, hey Cogulf long time no see :D
  23. Cognisant

    Cog's Case Against Religion

    No, the heck are you so smug about I haven't conceded anything, I do however have more important things to do hence why I've fallen out of the discussion. If someone changes my mind on something I tell them, until then assume I haven't.
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    Cog's Case Against Religion

    I think measuring god's influence is a great idea, but whether or not god makes people's lives better is too vague, we need specifics, something measurable. Any suggestions? How about longevity and wealth, if god favours people who believe in him they should be wealthier and live longer right?
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    The future of humankind

    The moon is a great place to colonize, for everything it lacks it has energy in abundance, once you have enough energy you can make and recycle everything you need.
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    Cog's Case Against Religion

    So what’s your point, that science is unreliable? It’s as reliable as anything can be, old theories are replaced with new ones when new information is available, as they should be, science isn’t about starting with a hypothesis and cherry-picking facts to support that hypothesis it’s about...
  27. Cognisant

    The Cycle of Life and Death

    Technological life extension is the only way to break the cycle, being a better person is a wonderful goal but as long as the cycle continues every utopia that rises will fall, every brick we lay will turn to dust, every child born will also grow old, die, and be forgotten. But what of the...
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    Cog's Case Against Religion

    To elaborate on WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT? For every equation where N equals 1 there's an infinite number of variations where the ONLY thing to change is that N does not equal 1, it's basic algebra, you can't argue with it that's just how it is. It doesn't matter that there's an infinite number of...
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    Cog's Case Against Religion

    @redbaron they're talking semantics and I blame you for it.
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    Cog's Case Against Religion

    I'll do you one better, who do you exist? Not really, if there's only one dimension then all you have is a point on a line, lets say that's the X axis, two dimensions gives us an XY plane, three dimensions an XYZ plane (the spatial dimensions as we know them) four dimensions adds time, and so...
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    Cog's Case Against Religion

    Choosing to believe in spite of knowing they have no rational basis for that belief. Choosing to believe in mythology that contradicts known physics (the logistical impossibility of Noah's ark). It's not evidence sufficiently conclusive to disprove the possibility of a god existing but...
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    Cog's Case Against Religion

    Perfection may be an impossible ideal but 5 Sigma is pretty damn close. Scientific discoveries are no trivial matter, nothing is deemed true unless it has been thoroughly tested, then thoroughly tested again by multiple independent parties. True but assumptions have to be reasonable, I could...
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    Cog's Case Against Religion

    LMAO I meant "nigh". Welp that's it, debate lost, there's no coming back from that. I see ISIS and the KKK being due to the self-delusional nature of religion. What is my "evidence against a deity"? I don't think I've given you any evidence, I've made a few logical arguments. Empiricism has...
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    Cog's Case Against Religion

    Because you brought them up? Ah sorry I missed that, and no, I don't. Isn't that just Pascal's Wager? Yet you claim to know something for which you have no evidence... Yet you're trying to pin the persecution of the Falun Gong on atheism, the difference is atheism isn't really a reason to...
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    Cog's Case Against Religion

    This is actually quite interesting, are they persecuting the Falun Gong because they're religious or because the Falun Gong are in political opposition to the Chinese government? Personally if I see someone pick a fight with the biggest guy and the room then complain about getting their ass...
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    Cog's Case Against Religion

    It really is a pathetic defense, I create a thread to make my case against religion in general but how am I to do that if I'm not allowed to cite specific examples? Did I contradict myself? ...no? Okay whatever, I'll play along. We can discuss whether or not your "God" exists which is pointless...
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    Cog's Case Against Religion

    The irony is strong in this one.
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    Cog's Case Against Religion

    If not from empiricism where does your knowledge come from? Because if it's not coming from somewhere then it's coming from nowhere or in other words you're just making shit up and deluding yourself into believing your own made-up shit. Your own words were "That's a real, measurable effect...
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    Cog's Case Against Religion

    Sayeth the pot to the kettle.
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    Cog's Case Against Religion

    Prepared how, prepared for what? How does "faith" prolong existence? Well as I said the "China's crackdown on Religion" thread I don't have a problem with individual spirituality (using AnimeKitty as my example) so you can believe whatever you want to believe and as long as you keep it to...
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    Cog's Case Against Religion

    I'm re-posting this from the "China's crackdown on Religion" to put the focus on religion itself, if you're interested in talking about religion in politics go to the other thread, likewise I'll try to keep the criticism of religion in general here. Do people need religion? It could be argued...
  42. Cognisant

    I don't like giving charity

    What is the underlying cause? Personally I think good governance is a lot like good management and I think a good manager exists to facilitate productivity. As I see it the existence of worker's unions is a failure of governance, managing the relationship between employees and employers falls...
  43. Cognisant

    Hahaha yeah, I'm afflicted with Vegeta syndrome.

    Hahaha yeah, I'm afflicted with Vegeta syndrome.
  44. Cognisant

    To What Extent Can AI Derive/Interpret Meaning?

    Absolutely, that's essentially the problem, it's not that we can't make thinking machines but rather the standards we're holding them to (the capabilities of the average human) are absurdly high.
  45. Cognisant

    Maybe psychological effect

    @OP Can you give an example, I'm not clear on what you mean.
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    To What Extent Can AI Derive/Interpret Meaning?

    How likely are you? Any kind of image recognition software is going to need to be trained before it's capable of doing anything, we're no exception, except that human infants are born able to recognize faces (despite having no idea what a face is or why it's important) because this "training"...
  47. Cognisant

    an INTP in college | motivation problem

    This is good advice. Yes but how many are going to pass? The brother of a friend is something like $50-60k in debt.
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    an INTP in college | motivation problem

    INTPs try to think their way through things which is great for preventing you getting caught up in the stupid shit everyone else thinks is important but it also makes studying for its own sake really fucking hard. So don't do that. Do you want to learn this stuff, if so why? What is it getting...
  49. Cognisant

    Times you've changed your mind

    Imo there's nothing wrong with being uncertain when you're uncertain, for example my stance on gender identity is that some of it's bullshit, some of it's not and if you really press me on where exactly I draw the line I have to admit I don't really know, I don't have enough data to come to a...
  50. Cognisant

    Plant eating

    True, very true. So what is a moral life, what morality should people base their lives on? It seems to me once we figure that out the whole meat eating dilemma will be sorted. "Eating meat is wrong, this is why" "Oh ok then" Undunno call me cynical but I don't think humans are interested in...
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