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  • You are attempting to figure out someone's forum identity off the Cynical Philosopher's FB page?

    Or some other site?
    I never really understood social games as a kid. I ended up pushed around and manipulated a LOT, including in work, where my intellectual abilities were higly prized, and I was taken advantage of a lot, in a horrible workplace situation. I ended up having a nervous breakdown. I was too afraid of that happening again, to risk being around people. I spent several years since, making huge efforts to understand people, to learn how to avoid that happening again.

    If she's an INFJ, and if, when you have finally developed your Fe and Si, then you would consider yourself an INFJ or ISFJ, then maybe I am one of those too.
    Read this and this. I'm in Jennywocky's age group. I've been through a fair few experiences.

    When I was young, I had almost no touch with reality. Used to spend days inside my own head. To learn to get on with life, I had to develop more Sensing skills, like driving, which took a huge amount of effort.
    Well somebody missed me. Where did I go? I went off to do taxes. I couldn't make any decision to notify because I couldn't define an excuse. "I shall return" - D. MacAthur
    I suppose the ignorance that I am talking about is that humans in natural form dislike shadow functions. If they are activated, the subconsciousness will regard it as painfull because it requires a lot of energy. And then IF it gets through to your consciousness, the consciousnesses will regard it as painful as hell. Thus, it never gets processed nor does the subject want it to be processed. Often they don't admit it though, because they think to be rationals to consider everything. But to consider another perspective, that is outside their brains capabilities to insert that into their judgment as they do not understand it Nor do their brains allow them to understand it.

    It is not hypocrisy for me to say this, because I have experienced this myself in the past. Now I'm in a higher state of mind then that though, that is, where the REAL open-mindedness and non-egocentric kicks in. That is, when valid thoughts emerge, rather then illusive.
    Oh, I dislike the community though. I've owned all top-teams in cod4 with ease. And/But am seen as an hacker. I suppose, that if you are unimaginable better. They don't understand you. And if people don't understand something, They will assume it not to be true if others regard it as false as well. (At least, 95 percent of people do that.) Besides myself, I know only 1 person who doesn't do this as well. -Many people claim not to do it, but they do it anyways. Damn ignorance. :3

    Also, people have a factor. That says: Well It's not true because if it is, PROOF IT TO ME. -Damn those people are ignorant as well. :3 -Often so, they also avoid seeing the proof. Damn hypocrisy.

    And then there is me, who regards 99% percent of people to be overly ignorant. :3
    It is intelligence and skills that are required to win. Both that have many applications: Aiming skill, Nading skill, Rushing skill etc. For Intelligence: Thinking like the enemy, be unpredictable, be a hard target, teamwork etc.

    A person who have played the game for 2 hours, could own a player that has played it for 3k hours. It's skill based. Yes there are advantages to be made out of experience such as spots/nades/rushes, but they require skill to be used.

    1v5, you could still win with ease, if you are skilled and they are not.
    did* - I don't game anymore
    cod4* -I don't like all the cods

    Maps are perfectly in proportion. Which grants endless stuff. I could enjoy cod4 for 10k hours playing alone in maps: training nades, jumps, rushes etc. The weapons are in perfect in proportion as well and some require a lot of practice (However in its competitive Mod Promod they outbalanced the weapons but fortunately not extremely). In cod4's competitive game mode (SnD/SD) there is a perfect proportion that if you camp, you will lose. If you rush you will be naded, but if you don't rush you lose. This makes it inevitable to think on how the enemy will play and try to outrun their nades or outbrain them. It's not all about aim. There are a shitload of things you must train and it is a purely skill based game. If you suck, you lose. If you own you win, no way around that. And there are weapons which have endless training. Such as Deagle, which you could train to shoot no recoil.
    Please confirm reception so I can get that beast of my clipboard. For some reason my sent messages folder is always empty.
    "Is that your favorite kind of videogame? cod4? I don't know. I guess I thought it might help with me figuring you out. I hope you don't mind."
    Hehe, I like that!
    Erm, cod4 was always my favorite game yes. But it doesn't help you get to know me I'd say. None of my classmates nor anyone I know understands me. (But I understand them all to well :D, even though it doesn't get me far from not being misinterpreted as I always assume them to be brighter then they actually are :(, often so, I'll just say nothing. Because if I do, they will misinterpret it anyways. Nonetheless I'm quite extroverted, I always shake hands and talk to everyone)

    I have never ever been invited to anything tbh. (I mean like actually Nothing.) From that standard, you could say I'm a loner. :D
    I used to play cod4. Actually, I played it 5k hours (Not even kidding..)

    But about a year ago, I stopped gaming to allow myself to develop in another direction.

    Why do you ask?
    Oh and I didn't really get myself into what Hadoblade wrote, but, I have a standing theory in mind that you could have for say INTP principles but subconsciously be INFJ. This would be to treat your thoughts concsiously with INTP principles. Thus if you would describe or extrovert yourself you will actually Mimick/Reflect with TiNeSiFe, as that are the principles of your consciousness.

    So you would then be MBTI type INTP because you have their conscious traits. But your soul and thus your Jungian Type would be INFJ

    This is actually not that rare. I've seen it in person and noticed myself to have switched conscious principles over time. I would say, that I've entered a new state of mind. A higher state where there is no return. For say, To fully commit to enlightenment.
    I wrote you a draft but it came out all rubbish as I'm overtired. I'll have another crack at it tomorrow and hopefully have something worth posting.
    I also never had a feeling of hate or anything. And if I do show some sort of anger, it is because of love or respect. (Making sense? :S)
    I'm always one with myself, nonetheless from the external reality as that is just an 'idea'. Does that make sense?
    Héhé. You must note, that I do not have feelings such as jealousy or desire. "Nothing but love" :D
    But thanks for your advice I suppose.
    And erm, career. Well.. I now go to a school, for erm, avarage brains. It's a kind off Media art-school. And because of my 'advantage' in intellect and creativity, I have loads of time to study typology (Which I do.). But I do not make plans for the future, as I have no desire thus no regret. If I end up homeless, the 'regret' wouldn't bother me. I live life very different than usual people do XD. Their reality does not reach my consciousness. Am I even making sense right now? XD
    be carefull? Did I voilate someone's morals or something? I don't recall anything as such...

    I do not have a steady career plan. Camera, Video, Photoshop, Animation etc. And ofc, I'm always open to head in a new direction, for say Psychology.
    Sure, though I expect my solution might not suit you.

    Have you made a thread for it or should I just visitor message? A thread can be a good starting point.
    Yeah if I were to rate all my functions in order it would be something like:
    Te
    Ne
    Fi
    Ti
    Ni
    Si
    Fe
    Se
    Which there is no type for. My understanding of a few of the functions could use some work, so this order is probably off by a little. I've been meaning to get a reading off some typology buff or other for a while now.
    Also, I've been very, very existentially depressed for the past ten months, so take that into account when you type me; I simply haven't the energy to use on Ne.

    -Duxwing
    I often use my intuition to solve difficult problems, but what I seek in the end is a logical system. Moreover, I rarely experience Se as an inferior function at war with my dominant one, so being an INxJ is out of the picture: both are driven by that function, much like Fe drives the INTP. In addition, if direct engagement of the inferior produces a 'high' or 'rush,' then my most pleasant experiences with F put it solidly in my inferior slot. If so, then I must be an XNTP, not an INxJ.

    On top of that, I've met an ENTP and we're nothing alike. His wit and ability to reason on the fly-- even if often imperfect-- dwarf mine. Therefore, I must be an INTP with a particularly strong Ne, which is supported by my occasional score of ENTP on MBTI tests and my "Conceptual" function being highest on the 3D type test.

    And even further, the "Academic" description of the INFJ doesn't match me at all: I'm not focused on people.

    -Duxwing
    I prefer to think to myself (Ti). I'm always doing it-- to the point that others tell me that I think too much. As for loose logic, would you please provide me an example of using too many axioms? Such a behavior could be entirely independent of my type: my arguments could simply be poor.

    -Duxwing
    Words. I seek ENFP and ESFP types.
    In my judgement Britney Spears = ENFP
    and Dakota Fanning, ESFP

    Tell me what you think?
    Now my head is spinning... Mother of All Epiphanies? I certainly imagine it as such, but only after nights of long study. Moreover, where has my logic been loose? Often it feels too tight, like an inescapable noose around my neck. Yet I agree, I do have some Ni in me, but is it really dominant? In your case of "Eureaka," why would the insights described therein drain me? For an INFJ, such behavior would be normal.

    Moreover, Fe suppression would be more likely in the dominant-inferior tug of war experienced in Ti-Ne-Si-Fe. And if we are to make the definition of INFJ so loose as to include Ni-Ti as a dominant axis, then each of us here is an INFJ.

    Again, I point to experience in practice. Go to the INFJ forum and read about their frequent fantasies of healing and helping; I don't have them. Sure, doing something good makes me feel good, but I don't fantasize about it.

    -Duxwing
    I always accept and consider Counter-Data untill I fully understand it but I just may not show it. I would describe it as the INFJerk trait. Because I will only show it, if my perspective is understood and accepted by the opponent or if it would be fair/legit. Of course, If my perspective doesn't make sense at all then. Oh erm... It always makes sense :D
    Even if the perspective was a joke, and people start to defy me, I will take the joke utmost serious and explain the perspective. :D -Funny thing about it though, I can explain the perspective with such accuracy that I win discussions with easy. Adymus is a Heavy abuser of this. (Just look at his perspectives he takes in Pod'Lair, it makes no sense that it is actually amusing. The Explanation of the perspective makes sense, but the perspective doesn't)
    "P.S. I go by the definitions of www.personalitypage.com just so we're clear."
    Hahaha!

    EDIT: 5min later: I'm still laughing.

    EDIT: 10 min later: Fe kicks in even though in this case it would be legit to show no sympathy. @Duxwing, If an INFJ has Fe less developed compared to Ti, A suppression will result. MBTI looks at most dom functions, thus in this case NiTi, and in mbti language NiTi = INTP. The MBTI descriptions of the types are MERE examples of how the functions in the functional stack of a type can result in. It should only be used to form an IDEA of how a type could be. You silly cuty :D
    Oh and I think Duxwing to be an INTP. (Yeah I know you wont take me serious. But behind the own8ge mask I'm a whole different person... Actually my knowledge of typology is far greater then I pretend to, lol. It's also because my raw thoughts are so in depth that they need clarification to be understood, and If I would clarify it, the INTP would be to judgmental to reach the end of my story and still interpreted it in the meant perspective. I do am working on stuff that are written very thorough, but because I don't need judgment checks on them, I don't post them here. hehe. "If you're good at something, never do it for free" Hehe)
    My consciousness did wield TiNeSiFe principles for a great while, but my 'soul' have always been NiFeTiSe which resulted in INTP-like extroversion but the origin of thought and the result (extroversion) have always been based on NiFeTiSe and so is/was my consciousness based on NiFeTiSe principles if we look at the core of it. But that all is next understanding.
    Where is my spontaneous, gut-feeling knowledge of events? Where is my stubborn rejection of others' opinions? Read Lyra to get a real grip on the INFJ: she uses Ni, I use Ti. I agree, though, I like to use my Fe, it gives me the warm and fuzzies. Moreover, I seek to organize my inner world, not my outer one, and my focus is not upon "getting things done," but upon understanding the essence of things and finding Grand Truth. All of these point not to Ni-Fe but to Ti-Ne: the strict logic, the love of discovery, the Grand Truth. I sincerely doubt that I am an INFJ, so please provide quotes that indicate such (my creative writing excluded-- I have a talent there).

    -Duxwing

    P.S. I go by the definitions of www.personalitypage.com just so we're clear.
    Am now absolutely certain I am an INFJ.
    (sorry to disappoint your judgment XD)
    Not really interested in moving up the corporate ladder. Got a job right now as a welder in a mine.
    No, not really. I use Ti far more than Ni, and Ne far more than Fe. Although I like to be warm and compassionate when I see others' pain, I used to be distant and detached; my years of therapy changed that, though-- for better or worse. Now, I try to nurse the emotionally injured back to health via applied logic, even though doing so drains me.

    Moreover, I feel little attachment to the outside world (Si vs. Se) and feel a great drive to solve grand theoretical problems (Ti). I admire Voltaire rather than Ghandi, Freud rather than Mother Teresa, and Socrates rather than my Psychologist. Moreover, I don't avoid unpleasant thoughts. Rather, I charge into them headlong! And I don't ruminate over whether I've hurt someone, as many INFJ's do; rather, I consider whether I've been true to my conclusions (again, Ti vs Fe).

    In conclusion, my overall logical perspective on life is marred only by a well-maintained compassion that I indulge upon seeing injured posters.

    -Duxwing
    After a quick skim of my posting history, I have to assume you're referring to someone else. Maybe AI?

    (in any case, i still visit quite frequently but rarely post in threads)
    I mean it's something you don't think about, it goes unnoticed because - it's you. Self-consciousness makes you aware of it. The aux is not you, but something you do/use.
    That's kind of a broad question but:

    I don't consider function hierarchy as strictly a measure of strength. When I consider 8 functions, I think of each of the 8 positions as having certain purposes and qualities/symptoms to them. Similar in concept to Beebe's model, but I have different ideas about it.

    When considering only 2 functions, I think the base is stronger and robust, but also more inflexible. The auxiliary is less strong, but has more flexibility in expression. I think the base operates subconsciously(because it's so ingrained/familiar) while the aux involves noticeable effort in manifestation.

    When I consider 4 functions it's basically a mix of those, but with focus on the dominant/inferior and their neuroses.


    I have 3 perspectives because even though I think all 8 functions are somewhat significant, only considering 2 functions makes the least guesses about how the psyche operates.
    Put simply, the difference between metaphysics and epidemiology is thus: metaphysics is about what reality is, epistemology is about what we can know about what reality is. In this sense, epistemology's existence is necessitated through some subject who is perceiving, whereas metaphysics requires nothing.
    ^ Te+N implies 'especially TeSi' and Ti+N implies 'especially TiSe'.
    Because of the dom-tertiary processing loop(Te-Ne, Ti-Ni).
    I think "complex mathematical conventions" would fall under "professionalization / skilled labor", that I mentioned earlier.


    By "simple" etc I mean because it processes and is expressed in ways that are understandable and applicable to the general person, dominant Te that is(Pi-Te is affected by irrational introversion).

    Conventional logic sounds alright(similar to common-sense logic that I think I mentioned before).
    As for Ti... well, I'll just ask you this: do you think Ti types are the only ones capable of critical thought?

    And for the last thing, I'll have to get back to you on that later. The atmosphere being SeFi is something I picked up on as a gestalt while watching, and will have to at least skim through the film again to get some examples/ideas/themes.
    To answer the simplest question first, I watched it three times because it is a good film. Perhaps I will watch it a fourth some time as well.

    Next, your conceptions of NeTi are oversimplified because... well, let's look at them. Unconventionality as Ne. This seems obvious to me. I really do not understand why a concept as overarching as "unconventionality" should be attributed solely to Ne. Ne is about latent energies present in entities, and about realizing the potential of those latent energies. In other words, Ne is predominately about possibility, in the external world: consider it as a seed which produces more and more branches in its desire to cover everything. Don't misinterpret me; certainly unconventionality will often be a result of this never-ending search for novelty, but this need not always be the case and there is no reason that this should only pertain to Ne. Like I said, reductionistic.
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