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It felt long at times when I was watching it, yet now that it's been an hour after I finished, I feel like going right back and watching it again. It's a transcendent experience, and I keep trying to wrap my brain around it, but it's bigger and more profound than I can grasp or articulate.

I need to dig up the Director's Cut, it's got some extra scenes.

Yeah, I feel the same way about it. Sometimes you'll go through a sequence and think, "is this really necessary? You could cut a couple corners here and there and probably save half an hour on your movie without diminishing the final product." But then you get to the end and your patience definitely pays off.

Definitely watch the extended cut. I watched the regular one first and then the second time around was extended and it just added to how much it blew me away. I spent like half an hour afterwards just kind of silently sitting and thinking profound thoughts (which is a similar reaction most people I've told to watch it have had after).
 

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last movie I watched was a short film from this forum....
 

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No Country for Old Men and this scene was the best from the whole, innocent small talk turns into a conversation about life and death and gives some insight into how questions are answered and what it means to interrupt the flow.
That "will there be anything else" asked twice, shows how desperately the owner wants to end the interaction.
 

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Spectre. Pretty much "Bond by the numbers" -- which is fine, and the film was enjoyable as such, it's just that based on the tone of the trailers + Sam Mendes directing, I was expecting something with more depth. There are a few memorable scenes with Waltz at least (in a not-so-mysterious role), but the whole movie dramatically seems rather flat, it's all mostly plot with a few moments of darkness. The ending doesn't feel much different. Maybe I just felt like everything was rather predictable. Go here, fight, go there, fight, go there, get captured, break loose, go there, fight, win, etc. it mostly feels like "Bond Lite" in that all the motifs and romances and whatever else have been done before and possibly more satisfyingly.

If you like some great action set pieces or some real bad-ass villains (Dave Bautista's "Mr. Hinx" is just fucking terrifying in terms of his sheer physical presence), the movie is fine enough.

oh, but I almost laughed out loud a few times during the title montage/song.... yeah, some great graphics there of smoky shapes fading away, but... i'll sum it up in two words:

"Tentacle p0rn."

like wtf?
Short films are pretty awesome - short, to-the-point, and full of content.

Yeah, it's like the short story -- long vs short films/stories are just different art forms, and with the short-length items you have to hit your point hard, effectively, and very quickly.

I've heard the line that "every novelist is a failed short-story writer." I don't think that's entirely true, but there's enough of a grain of truth in it that I find the line amusing.

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Jumper was really good. I loved the juxtaposition with the celebration in the background, and they blocked things out pretty nicely with the characters slowly coming back into focus / towards the camera. The dialogue/acting seemed very authentic.
 

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Damn, it's so realistic lol. I feel like I've become the guy that talked him out of it, though I'm not as blunt and abrasive.

Short films are pretty awesome - short, to-the-point, and full of content.

I didn't watch the other ones tho

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meh, saw a bunch of mediocre to lame movies...

ant-man (what???), misstress america (isfj perspective on enfp?), i smile back, man from UNCLE (ok), maze runner (sucks)...

perhaps "no escape" was my favorite. it had really intense action going for it.
american ultra was fun too, but perhaps that's mostly because i have a crush on kristen stewart.
 

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Bad Words.

Unfortunately the earlier parts of the movie seemed pretty mean-spirited versus funny, although the movie gets better as time passes especially as it becomes more clear why some of the characters are doing what they're doing. Eventually the movie seems to find its rhythm, but it can be a bit tedious to wait until it gets there. The picture also underutilizes some of its better actors, including Allison Janney and Phillip Baker Hall.
 

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I got 1:31 into the short film; the one I just watched. It was entertaining, but I still got bored of it so I stopped watching it.

@Jenny,

That's really a very optimistic outlook for a movie. :phear:
 

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Terminator: Genisys

I was prepared to just rip into this movie, I even refused to see it in the theater and got it as a free Redbox rental... and then once I got passed the first 25 minutes or so, and gave it room to breathe, I actually ended up liking it. :confused:

(although it could have been better than it was, and although I would only place it third out of the five terminator movies)

The tone is simply more casual, not quite as profound, and it was frustrating at first to see it mucking with installments I did like and recasting some of the characters in new ways, but hey, time travel... that's why time travel sucks.

I thought the nanotech and the AI were pretty badass, at least.
 

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Just watched Charlie and the Chocolate Factory again, and actually gave it a chance this time. It was actually really fucking good IMO.

And I'm pretty sure Willy Wonka in that movie is INTP. Maybe an immature, undeveloped INTP.
 

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Just watched Charlie and the Chocolate Factory again, and actually gave it a chance this time. It was actually really fucking good IMO.

And I'm pretty sure Willy Wonka in that movie is INTP. Maybe an immature, undeveloped INTP.

The awesome original or the shitty Tim Burton one?
 

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The awesome original or the shitty Tim Burton one?

Lol I was this way too at first. But I gave it a real chance and really enjoyed the Tim Burton one. My only gripe on the Tim Burton one was the shitty oompa loompa songs.

Although yes, the first is still the best movie ever.

(The first does have the shitty "Cheer up Charlie" song that is mandatory fast forward every time.)
 

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No matter how much of a chance I give it I cannot like Depp's Wonka. He's just some jittery, jumpy weirdo (Wonka, not Depp himself. Well, maybe Depp is too, I don't know).

The factory is Wonka's home. Nothing is out of his control there. Nothing takes him by surprise.

Gene Wilder is what makes that movie great. The way he calmly and coolly makes sarcastic quips as each child falls victim to his candy-themed murder house. That is Wonka.


And on top of that, I really don't understand the Tim Burton fandom at all. Like, he doesn't make bad movies, but I've never been truly and genuinely entertained by any of his films. They're all so... just... meh.

Except maybe Edward Scissorhands.
 

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(The first does have the shitty "Cheer up Charlie" song that is mandatory fast forward every time.)

I think sometimes they've cut that song when airing it on network TV. It's definitely an outlier / boh-ring song. unfortunately, it's also Mom's only chance to shine -- she has busted her ass for her son all those years, stirring laundry in a large pot, caring for four old people as well... and who does Charlie take to the factory? Grandpa Joe. Da-yum Charlie, you're such a lousy son. :D


And on top of that, I really don't understand the Tim Burton fandom at all. Like, he doesn't make bad movies, but I've never been truly and genuinely entertained by any of his films. They're all so... just... meh.

Except maybe Edward Scissorhands.

I like the idea of his quirk, but there are very few of his movies that I enjoy rewatching once I've seen them... and i've seen a lot of his movies over the years.

The few I'd rewatch:
- Beetlejuice
- Edward Scissorhands
- the Nightmare Before Christmas (partly due to danny elfman's great music)
and.... that's it.

Actually, I haven't seen Big Eyes yet. It's like his movies should all just be better than they actually end up being.
 

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I'm sitting here during lunch at home and just saw the last 20 minutes of Halloween II. Why did people watch this shit? I mean, it's not that it's even violent (as nowadays I find it pretty tame), it's just that it SUCKS.

They'd watch it because it was a sequal to a classic. A classic because of John Carpenter's music score, his ability to make the most out of a low budget, the atmosphere and focus the film had...it was effective and just worked for me like it did for many people. The Thing was his best but Halloween was an impressive breakthrough film (Assault on precinct 13 and The Fog were not bad but OK-ish compared to Halloween). I don't remember enough of Halloween II but it did have additional music scores like this one which I liked:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqSGQg2hV9k&list=PLgutvEUGvCpy74Z7ptJ6k5LaaJksUMBzi
 

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Saw Spy (Melissa McCarthy) last night. It's fluff, but once the film kicked in, it got to be a lot of fun, especially when McCarthy and Rose Byrne start trash-talking each other. I didn't realize Paul Feig also directed Bridesmaids and The Heat. Apparently I like the guy's sense of humor. He's on board as director and writer for the Ghostbusters reboot.

They'd watch it because it was a sequal to a classic. A classic because of John Carpenter's music score, his ability to make the most out of a low budget, the atmosphere and focus the film had...it was effective and just worked for me like it did for many people. The Thing was his best but Halloween was an impressive breakthrough film (Assault on precinct 13 and The Fog were not bad but OK-ish compared to Halloween). I don't remember enough of Halloween II but it did have additional music scores like this one which I liked...

Yeah, I guess that is as good an explanation as any. They were giving the franchise a chance based on the strength of the first. (Maybe that's what happened with the Jurassic Park mess too...)

I agree that "The Thing" is one of his best, which is funny because I think when it came out it wasn't as nearly appreciated -- it just developed a cult following. Even with some of the effects rather outdated, it's pretty bad-ass. I think the whole aspect too of the "other" hiding within what seems to be a friendly face, and how that impacts group dynamics... fascinating to watch.

I have a secret fetish for "Prince of Darkness" -- I can't say it's a "great" movie, some of the acting is pretty laughable, but I just love it, it's so over the top. And there's Donald Pleasance. And Alice Cooper (!). And... well, that big scene near the end with the girl and the mirror... that still haunts my dreams years later, I can't get it out of my head. In fact, sometimes mirrors just creep me out when I think of mirror-logic in the movie.
 

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on Thursday: "in the mouth of madness," the third in John Carpenter's "apocalypse" saga (I think it's more a thematic thing for him, versus any real connection) that includes Prince of Darkness and The Thing. Whoa, what a mindfuck! Sam Neill is great.

The movie isn't really 'scary' per se, not your typical "horror" flick, but it's full of crazy shit and imagery that makes no sense or just seems off the wall --- and as an example even has one of those infamous 'waking' sequences... where the guy is asleep, wakes up but he's still dreaming, and this continues far longer than comfortable so you can't tell what is real any more. I was actually laughing out loud through much of it, but not in a bad way -- it was in the "Whoa, this is AWESOME, no WAY!" kind of spirit.

Not compelled to rewatch much, but it was a fun ride.

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Hunger Games: Mockingjay 2.

Pretty close adaptation of the second part of "Mockingjay," last book in the sequence. I can't complain about that. I've only got a few issues that are technically minor ones, so if you've read the books:

- Finally started dealing with the "mutts" here, but never clearly explains them or their significance and the first movie was supposed to showcase/explain them and they substituted the mastiffs instead. "Mutts" are genetic tinkerings by the Capitol scientists, and are not confined to just animals like the trackerjacks and the birds from which mockingjays were spawned; they often take the dead bodies of tributes and will splice them with animals to create horrors to toss into the games, which is what happened in the first book.

So Peeta calls himself as a "mutt" here -- which is essentially calling himself a patchwork spawn of the Capitol... he's what they made him into from various experiences and sources.

- The mutts in this movie -- while they're pretty fucking terrifying, like beefed-up freaks from The Descent -- are spawned from human DNA mixed with other monsters, which should make them seem even worse. It's not clear what they are, but it would be more clear if the rest of the movies had actually included them like the books did.

- And this leads to the final bit -- Katniss' scarring. She's the "girl on fire"... literally, caught in the ending explosions. This is the one spot where the movie loses its balls; she looks as pretty as ever through the end of the movie, but she was supposed to be badly scarred from the fire, so her skin was a patchwork of old and new flesh fused. I wish they had scarred her face a bit. See, because Katniss herself is a "mutt" ... herself + a product of what the Capitol made of her. Both her and Peeta. And you see this also mentally, when she makes the choice regarding Snow (who she says 'corrupts whatever he touches or speaks about') and Coin.... what I loved about it is that you can't be sure what exactly is true, you see Katniss trying to be her own person while simultaneously perhaps she is just being what she was made into. The physical scarring would have manifest this reality as well as made it clear who she was going to choose to be with.

Anyway, not something that ruins the movie. Just missed opportunities. It was a pretty solid ending, even if not QUITE as bittersweet as it could have been near the end.
 

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50 shades of grey AKA 50 Shades of Meh.

I'm only 30 minutes in and I don't even know if i can continue, it's such a rotten movie. I'd say it tastes like shitburgers, but that would be an insult to shitburgers which actually do have some taste to them however rancid.

the script is awful. The characters don't make sense. Anastasia is so bland and timid that she repels me, she needs a shrink. Christian is impenetrable and does things that a $7 billion dollar guy wouldn't do or have time to do. I think we were supposed to figure out that Anastasia is turned on by Christian in their first meeting (she about collapses in an orgasmic heap after walking out after the interview), but their entire meeting, there was no chemistry whatsoever and she seemed lame and bored. I.e., the directing is lousy as it did not evoke the performances needed to convey what was happening. If I have had any emotion besides repulsion and boredom, it would be ridicule -- I've actually laughed a number of times at serious scenes that were so bad as to be funny. if only there were more of those.

90 minutes to go. I might not bother.
 

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50 shades of grey AKA 50 Shades of Meh.

I'm only 30 minutes in and I don't even know if i can continue, it's such a rotten movie. I'd say it tastes like shitburgers, but that would be an insult to shitburgers which actually do have some taste to them however rancid.

the script is awful. The characters don't make sense. Anastasia is so bland and timid that she repels me, she needs a shrink. Christian is impenetrable and does things that a $7 billion dollar guy wouldn't do or have time to do. I think we were supposed to figure out that Anastasia is turned on by Christian in their first meeting (she about collapses in an orgasmic heap after walking out after the interview), but their entire meeting, there was no chemistry whatsoever and she seemed lame and bored. I.e., the directing is lousy as it did not evoke the performances needed to convey what was happening. If I have had any emotion besides repulsion and boredom, it would be ridicule -- I've actually laughed a number of times at serious scenes that were so bad as to be funny. if only there were more of those.

90 minutes to go. I might not bother.

Wow I'm impressed you even have the fortitude to make it that far.

I've not watched the movie, myself, but I have watched an interview the two leads did.

I think the interview (and possibly the movie) is drastically improved by the knowledge that the two of them can't stand to be in the same room as each other.
 

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Just saw Spectre. Pretty good, but not the best Bond movie. Daniel Craig's acting was a bit off. His accent would fluctuate from British to way too American to be Bond. Great effects and action scenes.

Also annoyed they made Q this guy.

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I miss John Cleese as Q.
 

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Wow I'm impressed you even have the fortitude to make it that far.

I've not watched the movie, myself, but I have watched an interview the two leads did.

I think the interview (and possibly the movie) is drastically improved by the knowledge that the two of them can't stand to be in the same room as each other.

hahaha... that's great! Well, I can tell. Jezuz.

I made it to the 1:20 hour mark -- 2/3 of the way through. Do you know how? I started live-heckling the movie on my FaceBook page and some of my friends who either read the book or saw the movie jumped in, and that really helped the time pass.

eventually i gave up and just started watching reruns of The Office.
 

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Last movie I watched was Maze Runner Scorch Flame or something like that. I had no idea what was going on in the beginning because I missed the first movie and didn't read the books. It was pretty enjoyable actually. It was sorta easy to see what the director was doing with it, but not in a cheesy over the top way - just noticeable. IDK though, I've never really been a movie buff so to others it might have looked over the top. It was a fun movie with a pretty captivating plot actually. The acting wasn't noticeably bad or anything, but when it comes to analyzing actors I'm pretty much retarded. I'd recommend watching it though.
 

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Gundam F91, Italian dub and English subtitles. Had to be my second attempt watching it. For this, the Italiano worked rather well and was just as convincing, especially as it is considered a stand alone title as far as continuity goes. Film begins with a skirmish taking place in an apparently peaceful colony, which follows with its destruction and the death of many civilians, enticing what will become the main group of characters into action. The movie finally takes off after the death of Arthur, the lone black kid assisting in the revolt. After a sappy moment or two in which Seabook grieves after him, the story can finally begin. This was funny because Seabook obviously did not care about his death and was just going through the motions of what a protagonist should do, in other words, altruism. After this display in which supreme advantage was taken in an effort to appear selfless, the group continued on content with the notion that one of their own was appropriately sacrificed. Family conflicts revolving around honor and will exacerbate the plot. Iron Mask had a suitable Italian accent. Quite an intense conclusion, once the plan is set into motion; action sequences are a bit shaky and choppy but one quickly warms up to them and they then become normal. Interesting to see this film then try hard not to fall into the same trap as its predecessors but the standard formula and archetypes remain albeit with twists in enemy design. All in all, I'm glad it's over and can't wait to start the next one even though this one is bound to remain a cult classic and carry a legacy, having people refer to it as their favorite still to this day.
 

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Uncanny - great Sci Fi about A.I, like Ex Machina.
Bone Tomahawk - Pretty cool western.
Super Bob. - sympathetic, fun.

Love - omg, it's like chatting with themanbeyond, only more graphic
Victoria - it's like a female version of themanbeyond on coke.
 

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The Great Escape (1963). It was amusing enough, although it felt like Steve McQueen + everyone else. It was interesting seeing him and James Garner and Richard Attenborough and James Coburn and others I've only ever really seen as older men (most movies I watch seem to be mid/late 70's and later). it felt a little too long and could have used some trimming.

I also started Once Upon a Time in the West and am loving it (I'm about half an hour in). Shit. Now I know where Tarantino got some of his ideas; I had heard Leoni was one of his influences but I could actually see it in the first ten minutes, where's not much dialogue (and what's there is pretty snappy / slick), and it's all about visuals, positioning, and the projection of the characters. All the characters are 'cool' / badass. And when Henry Fonda shows up... whoa. Like, srsly, I was like, "I'm watching an early Tarantino movie," except his characters typically talk and there's a helping of crazy/whimsy in his plots.

Anyway, I look forward to the rest, then watching a few more by Leoni.
 

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Blues Brothers. Absolutely hilarious, especially the Nazi chase scene with Ride of the Valkyries.
 

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Cartoon movie classic from 1982. It had many humanistic lessons sprinkled throughout the movie, but I felt like the pace kind of got in the way of the impact. I don't think there would have been a better way, so I accept it. I want to read the novel now.
 

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Last installment of The Hunger Games.

The whole series is poor in regards to cast acting and script.. but it's all about the allegory.

Overall, meh.
 

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The last unicorn

Cartoon movie classic from 1982. It had many humanistic lessons sprinkled throughout the movie, but I felt like the pace kind of got in the way of the impact. I don't think there would have been a better way, so I accept it. I want to read the novel now.

The book's a little more coherent. The movie is rather cool; I like the soundtrack, and I'm a fan of Rankin-Bass cartoons/stop-animation shows. But some of it definitely comes across as disjointed; if you've read the book, it helps before watching the movie.

Last installment of The Hunger Games.

The whole series is poor in regards to cast acting and script.. but it's all about the allegory.

Overall, meh.

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Watched the Good Dinosaur with my gf. Lots of scientific inaccuracies but good for kids in my opinion. Not that hard-hitting to adults like Inside Out though and quite heavy on the drama side.

I do like its short film Sanjay's Heroes. I'm not sure who the Hindu characters/ deities presented in the film but they did look cool.
 

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Dracula 3-D, fucking terribad, although I watched it in two dimensions.
 

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Anyone going to go see the new Star Wars movie.....in a couple of weeks?
 

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Just watched Ricki and the Flash.

Meryl streep is always interesting, but the pacing was terrible and it was too much of a showcase for her musical ability versus just telling a story. Cut some music, make the plot better.

Anyone going to go see the new Star Wars movie.....in a couple of weeks?

I have a ticket for Friday Dec 18, 9am.

I hate crowded theaters but I'm just gonna have to suck it up on this one.
 

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I'm honestly afraid of what disney may have done to star wars <.<
 

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fear is of the dark force.

Yes, I get it. Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering. Thanks Yoda for being the only character with any inflection in their voice. <.<
 

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Yes, I get it. Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering. Thanks Yoda for being the only character with any inflection in their voice. <.<

as long as I don't have to watch 4 hours of Anakin whining whining whining. With that guy gone it can only get better.
 

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as long as I don't have to watch 4 hours of Anakin whining whining whining. With that guy gone it can only get better.

Sure, you say that now :rolleyes:
 

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I'm cautiously optimistic for the new Star Wars. I don't expect it to be amazing, but I expect it to be far better than the prequels.

I think JJ Abrams is excited about the film, and I think he's truly a fan of the source material, and he has the Star Trek experience as well as name recognition, so I think he was a smart choice overall. That said, in a lot of ways I expect the new Star Wars to be something in a similar vein to his Star Trek films (ie. large, visually well-made blockbusters that have a plot that's decent so long as you don't think too hard about it).

It's going to be a solid movie, I think is the best word for it. Probably not fantastic (certainly not Joseph Campbell's wet dream Episode IV fantastic), but almost certainly not as big of a mess as the prequels.

Oh, uh oh, it just dawned on me that I don't know if black stormtrooper jedi guy is the protagonist or if white possibly jedi girl is. I sure hope that one of them is the clear main character (one of the prequels' biggest flaws, imo).
 

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I'm honestly afraid of what disney may have done to star wars <.<

... which seems ridiculous considering what George Lucas has done to Star Wars.

Some of the licenses have far outstripped anything Lucas has directly produced. (Check out various computer games and even the now-defunct extended universe.)

I expect the movie to be decent. It's more a question of whether it's just solid or something exemplary. (Since expectations are high, it will likely be scrutinized more heavily and have a higher bar to jump than another movie in the genre, though.)

Edit:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/george-lucas-has-seen-star-wars-the-force-120910543.html

Is that good or bad? :)
 

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I expect the movie to be decent. It's more a question of whether it's just solid or something exemplary. (Since expectations are high, it will likely be scrutinized more heavily and have a higher bar to jump than another movie in the genre, though.)

Edit:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/george-lucas-has-seen-star-wars-the-force-120910543.html

Is that good or bad? :)

It will be scrutinized more heavily than, say, his Star Trek films. But as long as they're above the bar of the prequels, I think they'll be accepted by most people.

And Lucas liking the film means nothing. I think his history has proven that he doesn't know the difference between a good and bad idea.
 

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watching "The Man in the High Castle," derived from a book by Phillip K. Dick. It's actually a full season ten-episode series on Amazon originals, that has been renewed for another season I think... The story starts in 1962, after Japan and Germany ended up winning WWII and splitting ownership of the US (with a central region that is a neutral zone).

It's steady-paced but really damned good, once I got about 30 minutes into it. Good acting, good episode directing, good look and feel. Intriguing. Frank Spotnitz, who worked a lot on X-Files twenty years ago, is overseeing the project. there's essentially a cold war going on between Japan and Germany, while meanwhile Hitler (who I haven't yet seen in person six episodes in) has ailing health and there is a fear that whoever takes over for him will bomb the shit out of the Japanese when he comes into power since Germany is far ahead in the tech race.

The Resistance for some reason is delivering propaganda films to "The Man in the High Castle" -- and these films are odd because they seem to be footage from a world where the United States helped win the war and remains free and independent -- but it's not clear why if this Man is the one who has MADE the films, then why is he asking for them back?

(I actually have a suspicion about who this man would be, after watching some episodes; but it's a helluva twist if I'm right.)

Anyway, a few characters end up getting dragged into the Resistance (and then things that happen to them and their family inspire them to continue), and there are other main characters who are either high up in the German Reich, or working as double agents, or secret Jews, and so forth... Lots of layers of what is going on, and some of the episodes are especially well done, with some thematic parallels built into the way the episode is designed and edited. One of the better series I've seen, so far.
 

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... which seems ridiculous considering what George Lucas has done to Star Wars.

Some of the licenses have far outstripped anything Lucas has directly produced. (Check out various computer games and even the now-defunct extended universe.)

I expect the movie to be decent. It's more a question of whether it's just solid or something exemplary. (Since expectations are high, it will likely be scrutinized more heavily and have a higher bar to jump than another movie in the genre, though.)

Edit:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/george-lucas-has-seen-star-wars-the-force-120910543.html

Is that good or bad? :)

Not going to lie, that was NOT a bad trailer. The music was actually really good. I'm not going to be hating it any more until I actually see it and it turns out to disappoint.
 
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