For the love of all that is random.

[Chad]

As opposed to ... nearly everybody, who at least has some ability to converse on the direct "eye-to eye" level that you two require of him.

When you say something to him, he reads it, but his mind sees something else. It's a losing battle. This is what I mean by adding layers. It's like he thinks he's two steps ahead of you.

Interesting analysis.

However, I would have to admit that I don't believe my self two steps or even one step ahead of anyone in this argument. I am actually having a completely different argument (I.E. my original argument) Were they simply are trying to make another point all together unrelated to my point.

As Carry has wisely pointed out I can be narcissistic at times. I refuese to ingage there argument when I am completely content with my own.

On the other hand they believe me to be arguing against them instead of for my original argument. I tried to tell them that I have nothing more to add as is obvious form me repeating myself at least 15 time in this thread. There argument while not exactly wrong isn't important to (or against) my agrument therefore I chose to not give them victory when I am not even arguing against there point. Admiting they are right (even though they do have a reasonable point) would be paramont to discrediting my own argument which they have not discredited in the least.

Therefore I repeat my argument hoping that someday they may realize that I wasn't arguing with them in the first place.

My argument is factual and truthful. It actually simple entry level logic.

What may appear logical due to it apparent (or actual) truth may not actually be logical and what is logical may not actually appear or be factual.

I hope this finally clears up my argument I am running out of new ways of saying the same old thing.

What is most frustrating about this argument however is how that cherry actually accepted my argument yesterday while still belittling its importance. Then his friend can on all of the sudden my argument is wrong in proxy to another argument on the term Validity. So I take out the term they don't agree with and reword my argument and they still use the same attack.

They also act offended every time I try to defend there comments which is weird but okay.

 

[Cherry Cola]

My argument is factual and truthful. It actually simple entry level logic.

GJ man it's not like I told you that a year ago. Reading your posts is like trying to crack a really hard code, then when you finally manage to do it you realize the message was something like 1+1=2

 

[Chad]

Another off topic (kinda) random thought I have is.

How am I narcissistic and refusing to admit my faults when I have admit opening on this thread that I crossed a line calling Cherry a "dumb ass".

On the other hand I openly admit that Br claim of me being a "fucking Idiot" was not unwarranted.

This come across as humility to me but maybe I just can't understand these things being a fucking idiot and everything.

I must bow out due to the youthful wisdom of Cherry and Br.

 

[Chad]

GJ man it's not like I told you that a year ago. Reading your posts is like trying to crack a really hard code, then when you finally manage to do it you realize the message was something like 1+1=2

Exactly, I never said it wasn't 1+1=2. That the beauty of logic it really is that simple.

 

[Cherry Cola]

Probably because no one - including you - really cares about those insults or was particularly hurt by them and yet you're the one trying to use them whenever you find yourself in a corner?

 

[Cherry Cola]

Exactly, I never said it wasn't 1+1=2. That the beauty of logic it really is that simple.

You specifically said that you were trying to show the rest of the boards something they needed to learn. So now we need to learn that 1+1 equals 2?

 

[Chad]

You specifically said that you were trying to show the rest of the boards something they needed to learn. So now we need to learn that 1+1 equals 2?

important
(If they didn't know it then yes.

I not implying that everyone misunderstands this. However, in my arguments I have often been called illogical when someone believes my post to be invalid.

Its important to point out because validity is hard to prove or disprove specifically in the context of most of the arguments when have on this sight.

There really wouldn't be much argument in the validity of the premises if they were black and white.)

My sub point that you shouldn't read if you don't want to hear my babel.
(1+1=2

Is a black and white concept. Few argue against this.

My comments above were also clear and black in white.

Even so you tried to argue against it (however I understand this too, I have argued against the logic that 1+1=2 before, it's fun to twist things and look at them differently.)

 

[Cherry Cola]

If they don't... well what a bloody shame they do then!

That's not what has happened. People have attacked your premises and you've refused to back them up by saying that you "think logical".

Whereas what you use are arguments such as this one:

I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen: not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else /Ched

The problem is that it doesn't mean or support anything.

Here I'll switch things around:

I believe in Giant Robot of Destruction as I believe that the sun has risen: not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else /Charry

What it boils down to is "I believe in something I have no arguments to support"+"Something that isn't a matter of belief but actually a fact so that the belief seems more real by virtue of association"

You have to frigging realize that you're getting bashed because you make no sense. People have attacked your premises lots of times, you don't have any defenses other than "I've seen it is so" or "I don't care", these are facts, it's easy to dig up quotes where you state this explicitly.

Face it, you're not a borderline genius, you're not stupid, but you're well below average on these boards, that's not even an insult. In fact if anything is a disrespectful insult it's letting you clamor to your delusions of grandiosity.

People aren't interested in you, they are annoyed at you, possibly in combination with being puzzled.

 

[Jennywocky]

I believe in Giant Robot of Destruction as I believe that the sun has risen: not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else /Charry

But... but... giant robots of destruction DO exist. They DO they DO they DO! Just look around you -- are you a fool? They were even in that documentary a few weeks ago! I saw them!

...People aren't interested in you, they are annoyed at you, possibly in combination with being puzzled.

That pretty much sums it up: Different premises for what is true and different premises for what makes sense in a continuing discussion, getting from one idea or another.

 

[Chad]

I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen: not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else /Ched

Lol, That's not my quote it is from C.S. Lewis.

 

[Cherry Cola]

Well it goes hand in hand with your philosophy doesn't it? You did say it was an awesome quote.

To me its just nonsense.

 

[Chad]

My point is I have premises that I can personal verify for myself. I am also not the only one who shares these premises.

If you don't think my premises are valid then that a different argument saying my argument is illogical.

At this point I am not going to argue the validity of my arguments as I am not trying to change peoples minds. I am just presenting my own reasons why I fallow these beliefs instead of agnosticism. (Personally I am not confident enough in my own reasoning skills to be Atheist.)

My reasons, once again are not C.S. Lewis's written statement of faith.

I have personally believe both the physical and visual evidence I have witnessed along with my own scenes along withe the logical theories I have formulated about what faith means to me.

I don't fallow the traditional paths of faith however, I still keep end up at the conclusion that the theory of personal salvation makes the most since.

I know that I need salvation from myself. I may be alone in this belief but it intuitively obvious to me.

Now I add all these up 1+1+1+1+1+1... The logical answer I reach is that my faith is valid.

This doesn't mean I expect or even am trying to get you to accept that any of my premises are valid.

However, this is not my only argument but its an interesting case study thanks for bring it up.

 

[Cherry Cola]

Then the problem is that being on a forum isn't about making sense to yourself, it's about giving and taking, conveying ideas to others. No one will learn anything from knowing that you don't care about making sense to others.

It's a one way feed atm, from the rest to you, never the other way around.

Also thank you for confirming everything I wrote.

 

[Chad]

Then the problem is that being on a forum isn't about making sense to yourself, it's about giving and taking, conveying ideas to others. No one will learn anything from knowing that you don't care about making sense to others.

It's a one way feed atm, from the rest to you, never the other way around.

Also thank you for confirming everything I wrote.

I am here to express myself and ideas and to learn about other people.

Therefore this site is working just fine for me.

I have learn form many people on this site even you.

I am sorry you have yet to learn anything form me.

It not that I don't wish to teach others but I an not naive enough believe that anything I say about my personal experience is going to make a difference.

As has already been said and I've even agreed, my personal experiences are isn't proof to anyone other then myself.

Therefore I don't have a logical argument against other peoples Atheism. This doesn't mean I don't have an personal argument for my own faith. It just means that my personal argument has no place in the argument over rather someone else should be an atheist or not.

In most of my arguments it not quite so one sided. But I can't change the dynamics of this argument right now.

Anyhow that is a different argument

Nice job changing the subject.

 

[Chad]

Well played Cherry well played.

 

[Cherry Cola]

Hey man we can go back to the other subject if you wanna keep on beating the dead horse.

Everyone writes from personal experience, you just have to make it intelligible+have a point :O

 

[Chad]

Hey man we can go back to the other subject if you wanna keep on beating the dead horse.

Everyone writes from personal experience, you just have to make it intelligible+have a point :O

No, I am actually done with both subjects. I have said everything I have to say. I have no problem letting either of them go.

You are the one that brought up topics. I have no problem beating a dead horse with you either.

I am bored this gives me something to do.

 

[Cherry Cola]

okay *cough* copout *cough*

 

[Chad]

okay *cough* copout *cough*

At least you make this fun.

 

[Brontosaurie]

you say a valid argument is one with true premises regardless of logical structure. that's not entry level logic, that's FUCKING BULLSHIT

 

[Brontosaurie]

"In context of an argument a valid argument is an argument in which all the premises in the argument are factual. They may or may not be logically connected. "

MODERATOR GET BALLS AND APPLY BAN FOR THE LOVE OF WHATEVER

 

[Cherry Cola]

lol I missed that... christ I'm bad at navigating through the foggy landscape of chads writing

I agree

 

[Jennywocky]

Do it for Stylar! uh... Skylar! I mean, Spylar!

 

[Chad]

"In context of an argument a valid argument is an argument in which all the premises in the argument are factual. They may or may not be logically connected. "

MODERATOR GET BALLS AND APPLY BAN FOR THE LOVE OF WHATEVER

Who is getting banned now and for what reason?

Now we are banning people because Brontosauie doesn't like what they have to say. Wow.

Yes, Statement validity and the logical structure of an argument are two different aspect need to make a valid logical argument but they both have there place.

If you don't like the word Validity I will say the term factual statement/premises don't equate to logical conclusions. They actually have to fallow a logical order. Now if you want to pick apart my words then go ahead but you still haven't actually challenge my argument.

Like I said before were not even having the same argument and you are to rapped up in your argument to realize.

You aren't even presenting anything new argument here.

 

[Chad]

lol I missed that... christ I'm bad at navigating through the foggy landscape of chads writing

I agree

I see your back on now that you have your friend to fight your battles.


Anyway, its still as pointless as it was this morning because my argument was never about the term validity. I defend the term using my logic text to help make common ground. However, when you still and Br still try to make this an issue about the word validity I just change my words to something else and restated my point.

This isn't about validity so get over it.

 

[Chad]

Do it for Stylar! uh... Skylar! I mean, Spylar!

Really now we piking on my typos again.

Jenny really what have I ever done to you.

You were cool but all of the sudden you being over critical whats up with that.

Sylar is the name of the villain form Hero's and ya he is an awesome villain.

I also think the actor is quite talented.

I have yet to decide it like him better as Sylar or Spock.

 

[Cherry Cola]

I see your back on now that you have your friend to fight your battles.

Yeah he patched me up after that brutal intellectual beating I received from you. You truly are our superior, but together we might overwhelm you!

 

[Absurdity]

"In context of an argument a valid argument is an argument in which all the premises in the argument are factual. They may or may not be logically connected. "

MODERATOR GET BALLS AND APPLY BAN FOR THE LOVE OF WHATEVER

No one is forcing you to post in this thread. If Chad wants to be a moron in his own corner of the forum then good for him.

You may also want to explore the "ignore" options in the User CP.

 

[Chad]

No one is forcing you to post in this thread. If Chad wants to be a moron in his own corner of the forum then good for him.

You may also want to explore the "ignore" options in the User CP.

So not listening to br makes me a moron.

I don't really understand this.

 

[Brontosaurie]

Who is getting banned now and for what reason?

Now we are banning people because Brontosauie doesn't like what they have to say. Wow.

Yes, Statement validity and the logical structure of an argument are two different aspect need to make a valid logical argument but they both have there place.

If you don't like the word Validity I will say the term factual statement/premises don't equate to logical conclusions. They actually have to fallow a logical order. Now if you want to pick apart my words then go ahead but you still haven't actually challenge my argument.

Like I said before were not even having the same argument and you are to rapped up in your argument to realize.

You aren't even presenting anything new argument here.

you're getting banned because you lie. i hope.

no, because you lie.

no, a logically valid argument doesn't need factually true premises.

i'm fine with the word validity. you, otoh, don't understand a single word in any language on the face of the earth, except for "me me me me me me".

if we're having different arguments it's because you don't know what you've written yourself and can't be arsed to go back and check if my account of what you've written is correct (which it is) - because you're a poor and shit writer and a self-absorbed warped maniac.

no i'm not. i'm just highlighting one of your stupid mistakes.

 

[Cherry Cola]

No one is forcing you to post in this thread. If Chad wants to be a moron in his own corner of the forum then good for him.

You may also want to explore the "ignore" options in the User CP.

Yeah but he's the same in every serious discussion he partakes in man :S

 

[Brontosaurie]

No one is forcing you to post in this thread. If Chad wants to be a moron in his own corner of the forum then good for him.

You may also want to explore the "ignore" options in the User CP.

is anyone ever forcing me to post anything in any thread?

ignoring chad would be like ignoring the holocaust. can't you see his influence? he's a STRESSOR and nothing else.

if any breach of liberal principles is ever to be done, this is the one.

 

[Chad]

Yeah he patched me up after that brutal intellectual beating I received from you. You truly are our superior, but together we might overwhelm you!

As far as I know both of you are my intellectual equals maybe even my superiors. I am not even trying to get in a battle of wits with you guys.

However, it kind of hard to have a argument with someone when you are not even on the same page.

I am trying to explain simple principles.

Logic and truth are two separate principle.

If you want to try and pull my argument apart by attacking my words instead of attack my argument. This may be an effective argument strategy but it has nothing to do with finding the truth are defeating my argument.

 

[Brontosaurie]

If you want to try and pull my argument apart by attacking my words instead of attack my argument. This may be an effective argument strategy but it has nothing to do with finding the truth are defeating my argument.

protip: you may say "oh i'm sorry i apparently wrote something entirely different from what i meant to convey" if such is the case.

actually that's true of every post you've ever written. might wanna put it in your signature.

 

[Chad]

is anyone ever forcing me to post anything in any thread?

ignoring chad would be like ignoring the holocaust. can't you see his influence? he's a STRESSOR and nothing else.

if any breach of liberal principles is ever to be done, this is the one.

Wow, you are crazy.

No need to get emotional bring ethics in to the question here.

I am not Satan I am just a normal guy form Maine.

I am flattered that you think of me so much.

 

[Brontosaurie]

Wow, you are crazy.

No need to get emotional bring ethics in to the question here.

I am not Satan I am just a normal guy form Maine.

I am flattered that you think of me so much.

perhaps.

is there a need to write your shit posts?

you're neither. you're a sick twisted lunatic form Maine.

i don't. i know 10 year olds who could see you're wrong in two seconds.

 

[Chad]

Really I am a sick twisted lunatic. Do you even know what those words mean.

 

[Brontosaurie]

Do you even know what those words mean.

HAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[Jennywocky]

Oh, Chad -- the other thread got locked, so I'll respond here... and this is meant to be calm and constructive, not a "Chad bash" in the least. But since people were discussing me there, I feel it's appropriate to clarify publicly since there seems to be confusion.

Some of our communications seem to be "missing each other" lately.

Times I have said something purposefully, to be pointed in hopes you'd pick up on it, you totally have missed and not had any response to. The times I've just been joking around and thinking you'd joke back, you seemed to have perceived as an attack. (I am known to poke fun at other's inconsistencies, and I anticipate that they will poke fun at me when I am deserving of it.)

I also do not read a lot of your posts in general, so I had no idea what you've been experiencing (paranoia, etc.) or that my interactions with you would play into that recently. If I had realized that, I would have probably handled things differently.

I'll be really honest, and you don't need to explain or justify, it just is what it is: The way you "logic" sometimes really can eat at me. Also, all the spelling and grammar mistakes really bother me, mostly because it seems that you are not even trying. I'm very forgiving if someone just says, "Hey, I know I don't logic well" or "Hey, I have <such and such a problem> that makes spelling hard for me," and then I'd get off your case because then it would be clear that you couldn't help it and know about the issue. [and if you have said that at some point, I missed it, so let me know!]

But it comes across as a sign of disrespect and carelessness to consistently misspell words that sometimes have just been spelled RIGHT in front of you correctly. I mean, it's hard to respect an opinion where there seems so little pride taken in it or when you say you think someone's cool but can't even spell their name correctly. And it's not just occasionally, it's literally every little post. Meanwhile, I'm the sort that will reread my own posts and even edit them to fix misspellings and awkward grammar, so that I can be understood.

None of that makes you a bad person, and it doesn't mean I think you are a bad person. However, I've found that I do not want to get into some types of discussions with you because I get very, even insanely, frustrated. Bear with me as I moderate my own interactions a little better so I can get a grip on when I should continue to interact and when I should disappear for awhile. Thanks.

 

[redbaron]

I'm Commander Shepard and this is my favourite thread on the Citadel.

 

[Chad]

Oh, Chad -- the other thread got locked, so I'll respond here... and this is meant to be calm and constructive, not a "Chad bash" in the least. But since people were discussing me there, I feel it's appropriate to clarify publicly since there seems to be confusion.

Some of our communications seem to be "missing each other" lately.

Times I have said something purposefully, to be pointed in hopes you'd pick up on it, you totally have missed and not had any response to. The times I've just been joking around and thinking you'd joke back, you seemed to have perceived as an attack. (I am known to poke fun at other's inconsistencies, and I anticipate that they will poke fun at me when I am deserving of it.)

I also do not read a lot of your posts in general, so I had no idea what you've been experiencing (paranoia, etc.) or that my interactions with you would play into that recently. If I had realized that, I would have probably handled things differently.

I'll be really honest, and you don't need to explain or justify, it just is what it is: The way you "logic" sometimes really can eat at me. Also, all the spelling and grammar mistakes really bother me, mostly because it seems that you are not even trying. I'm very forgiving if someone just says, "Hey, I know I don't logic well" or "Hey, I have <such and such a problem> that makes spelling hard for me," and then I'd get off your case because then it would be clear that you couldn't help it and know about the issue. [and if you have said that at some point, I missed it, so let me know!]

But it comes across as a sign of disrespect and carelessness to consistently misspell words that sometimes have just been spelled RIGHT in front of you correctly. I mean, it's hard to respect an opinion where there seems so little pride taken in it or when you say you think someone's cool but can't even spell their name correctly. And it's not just occasionally, it's literally every little post. Meanwhile, I'm the sort that will reread my own posts and even edit them to fix misspellings and awkward grammar, so that I can be understood.

None of that makes you a bad person, and it doesn't mean I think you are a bad person. However, I've found that I do not want to get into some types of discussions with you because I get very, even insanely, frustrated. Bear with me as I moderate my own interactions a little better so I can get a grip on when I should continue to interact and when I should disappear for awhile. Thanks.

Ya, I was in the middle of explaining this when the post was locked.

I don't think I am paranoid (maybe I am).

I just noticed that when I started posting on here you always seemed very kind and respectful to me at least. (beside once when you got a little snippy about me bashing INTPc for banning me.) If I remember correctly you have even defined my arguments once or twice.

However, in the last month or so I have found more negative post coming form you. Not to say this hasn't been going on since the beginning I can be oblivious to subtle clue sometimes.

At first I tried to joke back and still do sometimes. (I.E. the "patience young grasshopper quote" When you mocked me by asking were my poll was.) I assume because I did something similar earlier in the day.

I have never denied that my writing is poor. I even warn people of this in my signature.

I am not here to write a English paper or even a professional or scientific paper. I know I am loose with my words and I miss spell when my spell check doesn't catch my mistakes. Also when I am writing a fast one line statement I often don't even look at the spell checker or my spelling in general. Therefore I do miss typos like spelling Stylar instead of Sylar, or not putting question marks at the end of questions. I am sorry you felt disrespected by this.

The only reason i have an issue with you is because when I first meet you, you were helpful and you were one of the people that I felt really reach out to me and helped me find a place here. It seemed like all of the suddenly you turned on me. I was blindsided by your attacks. This is most likely due to my oblivious nature and not by design. However, I have been trying to reconcile this with you for at least the last few day. Mostly because I have plenty of enemies on here I can't afford to loses people I thought were friendly to me.

 

[Jennywocky]

At first I tried to joke back and still do sometimes. (I.E. the "patience young grasshopper quote" When you mocked me by asking were my poll was.) I assume because I did something similar earlier in the day.

See, when I said "poll" that had nothing to do with you, I just thought it would be funny to suggest one for such an outrageous thread. (Not even sure why you created that thread, honestly. It wasn't going to end well.)

I have never denied that my writing is poor. I even warn people of this in my signature.

Oh. I never ever have signatures turned on. They are optional. I typically don't even have avatars on much of the time, because I post at work.

I am not here to write a English paper or even a professional or scientific paper. I know I am loose with my words and I miss spell when my spell check doesn't catch my mistakes. Also when I am writing a fast one line statement I often don't even look at the spell checker or my spelling in general. Therefore I do miss typos like spelling Stylar instead of Sylar, or not putting question marks at the end of questions. I am sorry you felt disrespected by this.

Okay. We're good to go now.

My INTP son's actually a really bad speller, but he and I both laugh at his spelling together. Sometimes it's outrageously funny. Now that I know that you know, if I do happen to laugh at something, it's just because it's funny and not that I'm trying to smack you.

The only reason i have an issue with you is because when I first meet you, you were helpful and you were one of the people that I felt really reach out to me and helped me find a place here. It seemed like all of the suddenly you turned on me. I was blindsided by your attacks. This is most likely due to my oblivious nature and not by design. However, I have been trying to reconcile this with you for at least the last few day. Mostly because I have plenty of enemies on here I can't afford to loses people I thought were friendly to me.

Okay. I could not perceive any of that, so thank you for explaining the background for me.

Why do you think you have enemies vs just people disagreeing with you? (Well, okay, you probably have a few... but plenty?)

 

[Chad]

My fears.

Okay so I mean to write and sincere post about how other may view me on this thread.

I understand the dislike form my sloppy writing. I assume that it is a general dislike of nearly everyone on here.

However, what I am more interested is how others view my fears.

I have read several defense post write in the last few day that claim my action are driven by fear.

Since I do at time have a hard time recognizing my own emotions (at least the one that are subtle.) I think that it is best for me to be open to the option that I may be acting out in fear on this site the last few day.

This is what I know.

I just lost my job so I am bored.

I hate being bored so I am also a bit moody.

I don't really care that I lost my job, in fact I wanted to lose it deep down.

However, since I have been both bored and I had lots of free times my post on this site have dramatically increased over the last week.

Up until this time I thought I had a few not so friendly acquaintances on this site.

Up until this week all of them had decided to move on but one.

About two weeks ago one of my not so friendly acquaintance decided to spread out an olive branch and thank me for improving my presence on the forum. This was a bit surprising but it was appreciated.

Another member started to become more unfriendly about a month ago but since I really wasn't posting much I didn't actually think about it all that much.

I also found a new enemy this week who happens to be more blunt and hating then basically anyone I have dealt with on here before.

So I guess the question is do I sound paranoid and or scared/fearful?

If so what do you believe I am Fearful of?

I ask because I honestly don't recognize a feeling of fear or paranoia in myself.

From this discussion I wish to either.
1)See were my writing pattern is misleading people about my emotional state.
2)discover a greater understanding of a weaker emotion of mine, so I can keep it form clouding my judgment.

 

[Chad]

Okay. I could not perceive any of that, so thank you for explaining the background for me.

Why do you think you have enemies vs just people disagreeing with you? (Well, okay, you probably have a few... but plenty?)

Well, I tend to overstate things. I think its a habit I picked up form my mother and my wife.

I hate it when other people exaggerate but I exaggerate quite often myself.

Most people on here would fallow into 3 categories.
1)people who don't comment or talk to me at all
2)People that are friendly and talkative to me and while disagreeing at time are still respectful. (Thus being the majority of people that talk to me on hear)
3)People who hate my writing and never actually read my post but comment on my mistakes. (These people rub me the wrong way sometimes but most of them write very professional are are easily offended by unprofessional writing) My writing would be a level down form unprofessional writing I admit.

This three cover 99% of INTPf formers. I can think of 4 people on this forum that have out right attacked me thus making me out to be there enemy. One even one that has called for my banishment.

I don't have very many enemy in really life (none actually I also don't socialize much so that not saying a lot) so this feel like a lot to me. I can think of one kid and high school that I use to have intense verbal battles with but even he is perfectly okay with me now. My Ex fiancee even likes me now. So, even though 4 is probably not plenty it feels like it when it so much more then in my actual life.

Of course I have to add that I don't interact with teenage males very often in my day to day life.

 

[Jennywocky]

Re: My fears.

Minor sidetrack:

What job did you lose, and why did you want to lose it?
It sounds like it wasn't something you enjoyed, since you seem happy it's gone.
How's your wife doing with it? Does she work?

Are your finances okay, and do you have other options for employment that might be better?

Job loss threatens financial stability, which can shake up other parts of life too....

 

[Chad]

Re: My fears.

Minor sidetrack:

What job did you lose, and why did you want to lose it?
It sounds like it wasn't something you enjoyed, since you seem happy it's gone.
How's your wife doing with it? Does she work?

Are your finances okay, and do you have other options for employment that might be better?

Job loss threatens financial stability, which can shake up other parts of life too....

1)I lost a factory job.

2)It was temp labor and I missed a few days of work even though I had a reasonable reason the let me go anyway.

3)I hated my job. It was boring and I didn't allow me to think and put in creative input. It also felt degrading because, I have a college degree and I had to settle for a job I didn't work for.

4)My wife says she is doing fine and she is trying to be sportive. I do appreciate the effort however, it is still obvious to me that she upset at me for losing the job because it payed well.

3)My wife works a part time job because she is a full time Pharmacy student.

4)Our finances are okay for right now. We got a bit of money saved up and we knew this might happen. Also at the end of this month my wife will be getting her loan money form school. We are not in an ideal financial situation but we been much worse off before and made it through so neither of us are too worried about that.

5)I am not sure what my employment options are right now. When I was look a few months ago things were not that great. I need to start back into look into this however, I happen to be procrastinating right now.

I would discount the unsuitability it causing my life especial were my wife is concerned.

Mostly because at the beginning of the summer I asked her to get a part time job "for the summer" to help us out financially. My wife being who she is doesn't to things half way and instead of taking a part time summer job she decided to take a part time internship and agree to work for them for the next 3 years. So, if I don't get a job before she start school at the end of this month she will be going to graduate school full time and working part time and I will be doing nothing. It a bit stressful to think about I guess.

 

[Hadoblado]

Re: My fears.

The way you write, and (I infer) your reasons for doing so, are not INTPesque.

This forum, other than some deliberate areas set aside to vent Ne, is largely an idea verification system, as well as a source of brainfood. You don't seem to want your thoughts criticised, which makes you unhappy when they are, and me sometimes wonder what you're doing here.

 

[Chad]

Re: My fears.

The way you write, and (I infer) your reasons for doing so, are not INTPesque.

This forum, other than some deliberate areas set aside to vent Ne, is largely an idea verification system, as well as a source of brainfood. You don't seem to want your thoughts criticised, which makes you unhappy when they are, and me sometimes wonder what you're doing here.

Thank you this is kind of what I was wanting to hear.

I don't think you actually grasp my wishes. However, pointing out what appear to you help me understand some frustrations.

I actually love being critiqued. I would hope the deliberate threads like this would point that out. I love to share my ideas and have other people digest them and spit out the bad parts. Its a very enjoyable exercise for me. If I didn't care for that kind of debate I would have left foruming all together.

I am happy here. This thread isn't a woe is me thread.

It's far more I am recognizing a trend. Then I logically deduced that this trend is caused by my poor communication skills or deep seeded feelings I don't seem to recognize.

You characterizing me as unhappy here shows that I am not expressing my joy very well. I love debating my own thought especially. I don't actually like when things get personal because at this point I get confused as to what the reason for the other persons offense and since this is a written media its almost impossible for me to derive any kind of emotion form people on this site.

From talking with Jenny on other thread I learned that she was not actually attacking me in the way I thought. She had been trying to express an idea to me subtly for some time and settle on humorous pokes when she felt like here subtle points were falling on death ears.

I think I am learning more and more that I am not the only one misunderstanding and a large part of that is my poor writing.

Thank you again Hadoblado.
By the way for your information I haven't settled down on INTP yet. However, form those who know me best say it is the closest type to mine.

 

[redbaron]

Re: My fears.

I just think you're high on the autism spectrum. When I read your posts it strikes me that you're very disconnected socially and emotionally, while missing context and misinterpreting things constantly.

This came to mind when I started reading your posts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pervasive_developmental_disorder_not_otherwise_specified

Either that or you're supremely manipulative and you're just enjoying the attention you receive from fucking with people.

 

[Brontosaurie]

Re: My fears.

I just think you're high on the autism spectrum. When I read your posts it strikes me that you're very disconnected socially and emotionally, while missing context and misinterpreting things constantly.

This came to mind when I started reading your posts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pervasive_developmental_disorder_not_otherwise_specified

Either that or you're supremely manipulative and you're just enjoying the attention you receive from fucking with people.

QFT