Spoiler Tag Deficiencies...

[Sapphire Harp]

I'm not quite sure of the whole issue here, but Cavallierose and I happened upon a tech problem. It might be the spoiler tags aren't working in Firefox (or a portion thereof.)

Cavallierose said she couldn't find some images I have in the graphology thread under spoiler tags... and I checked with my Firefox and I couldn't see them either. It may be my version of firefox is out of date - I don't know. I'd appreciate it if the staff could check it out and see if there's something to be done.

For the record; data from my old firefox program:
Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.8.1.7) Gecko/20070914 Firefox/2.0.0.7

[Claverhouse]

Having glanced at the Graphology thread, and the post in question, INTP Forum - View Single Post - The Graphology ThreadI can only confirm that under Linux --- and bear in mind that Fx for Linux is always inferior to Fx for Windows --- the latest Firefox 3.5.1 dispays your images perfectly.


Maybe it's something to do with using a Mac. Sadly, I don't have any elder versions of Fx kept on in honourable retirement.*



Claverhouse :phear:



* We tell the children they've gone to live on a farm; but as usual in these situations, after being escorted for 'sweets' to the courtyard, a single shot is heard and another sad little gravestone is added to the wall...

[Aiss]

I can confirm they aren't visible under Snow Leopard (10.6.1) in Firefox 3.5.3, Safari 4.0.3 and Flock 2.5.2. Didn't try Stainless or Chromium, but I'm pretty sure it's something to do with OS X.

BTW I think I recall being able to see images hidden in a spoiler tags recently (same OS and Firefox 3.5.x). Did something change on the forum?

[Claverhouse]

No, the last upgrade was to vBulletin 3.8.4 in July, and there has been one patch since then which was inessential. The Hack was introduced post 3.8.4. Very few hacks have been added since. However, we did move to new hosts on the beginning of this month.
Since it works on Linux, I doubt if anything has changed to affect this Hack.

Perhaps Apple has issued a patch recently ? --- Not to imply the same motivations as MS, who perhaps inadvertently, issue upgrades and patches which happen to cripple competing software.



Claverhouse :phear:

[Sapphire Harp]

This issue is getting interesting... while my profile says I'm using Firefox, I'm actually using a browser called Camino - which seems to display them correctly. It just occurred to me to check the spoiler tags in Safari and they don't seem to work in that, either.


I also happen to be running on OS X 10.4.11, so that's quite a bit older than Snow Leopard's 10.6...

And so no one needs to flip around to the other thread, I'm making an example here. One image under a spoiler tag. :)
http://media.fukung.net/images/3053/Bad%20Apple.jpg

*Edit: Most strange... that one seems to work correctly... It's different only in that I used the resize image option...

Now including a sample without an image-size edit...

http://files.myopera.com/clean/albums/430311/thumbs/funny-pictures-nap-like-an-egyptian.jpg_thumb.jpgWhich also seems to work in safari and firefox... I wonder if we're looking at a problem here with the albums of the forum?

[Aiss]

^ Both of the above work in Firefox, Safari, Flock (same versions I've listed earlier).

I tried to follow the links for your images from the other thread and I get a gif image, size 1x1 pixels. I guess I should say this image is displayed perfectly, it's probably just not the one that should be there.

Claverhouse - there was no OS X update recently, also I don't think Tiger gets any updates but security patches anymore.

[Claverhouse]

Claverhouse - there was no OS X update recently, also I don't think Tiger gets any updates but security patches anymore.


Odd, OpenSUSE gets continuous rolling updates every couple of days; not only for the OS, but for the window management system of one's choice, the applications, and all those unexplained little files with obscure names that mean nothing to a non-geekie penguin.


I wouldn't pretend that occasionally one update or the other doesn't make trouble for other files; but it's the price of cutting-edge.



Claverhouse :phear:

[Aiss]

^ I was talking only about OS X updates (last was like two weeks ago), not applications. Anyway I can't see the images from the links, like http://intpforum.com/picture.php?albumid=22&pictureid=101 . I guess I should be able to see something else than a 1x1, if not then I'm going about it wrong. All I get is a single pixel image, and it's displayed in the spoiler tags as well (making it seem as if the tags didn't work).

[Claverhouse]

Sadly, or not, that instance works perfectly here; so it's not a serverside problem.

Perhaps someone with a greater knowledge of Macs and/or browser rendering can help. It's probably something to do with IE's unique ability to drag down the net not only for itself, but all other browsers as well...


Conspiracy theorists (http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/APIWar.html) have suggested that this is because if browsers become too good, people will make web applications instead of desktop programs. If they were written using syntax that worked in all browsers, they would no longer be tied to using one operating system. Microsoft Windows would no longer be needed. Take GMail for example. The longer Microsoft can hold things like this off, the better it is for them. Of course, it could just be that now that they dominate the market, they have got lazy. Or maybe it is that their bloated, broken code is now so unmanageably difficult for even themselves to understand and debug, that they have given up on the idea of fixing it ... time will tell.

No, Internet Explorer Did Not Handle It Properly (http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/wrongWithIE/)



Claverhouse :phear: