what is the most useless school subject

[Wacomydikid]

The question is in the title. In my opinion it is drama and at my school we are forced to take it until we are in secondary 3. So that mean I still have two year before I don't have drama anymore.

[Toad]

I heard there is a religious education class in the UK...nuff said.

[Citizen X]

If you're in a private religious school, that has got to be any faith based subject.

I know it because I was in one :o

[Adaire]

I actually liked drama. It taught to me how to speak in front of people and to project confidence. The stupidest class I've ever taken was definitely Health.

[Toad]

I enjoyed my health class. It encompassed physical and emotional helath. Plus there was this fucking super hot chick who sat across the room from me and she ALWAYS wore a skirt...hehe I enjoyed the show more than the class itself.

[walfin]

I'm jealous. How come you all had useless subjects in school? I took 9 subjects and all of them were useful in a sense. If I had more useless subjects I could've skipped more classes.

[Ermine]

I don't think there's any one most useless class. As for most useless classes, definitely health (nothing but stating the obvious and telling you how to have a "healthy social life"), IT Essentials (come on, who doesn't know how to use Microsoft Office?), and the general vocational requirements (stuff like wood shop, welding, electronics, etc). Fine by me if you're actually interested in those classes, but just about any given class you can take in school leads to a career of some sort, so the vocational requirement is a bit arbitrary.

[drumir93]

I don't think there's any one most useless class. As for most useless classes, definitely health (nothing but stating the obvious and telling you how to have a "healthy social life

I have to say I disagree about Health.
Now for my Health term in High school I had one of the worst educated teachers imaginable, so I know how health should not be taught. But some of that subject matter is quite important if you ask me. Children should know what calories are, and why exercise is good, and why fast-food is bad, and so on.

As for the others, I agree. Also, Speech class. Holey flaming balls of crap do I hate speech. :(

[Huh!?!]

Oh to have had your useless school subjects!

I'm quite old so we didn't even have any IT classes when I was at school *sigh*

I went to an all girls grammar school in the UK in the early 80's. In terms of the most useless, it's a toss up between
Scripture - as Religious Education was called at my school, or
Domestic Science - which was basically a crap cookery class for half the school year and learning how to use a sewing machine for the other half.
Happy days.

[Inappropriate Behavior]

I'm quite old so we didn't even have any IT classes when I was at school *sigh*



I remember having to learn Basic (happily forgotten) on some old Apple computers. That's back in the day when floppy disks really were floppy. I think they held a whole kb of data....

[saffyangelis]

My ICT classes are kinda useless, we do stuff like using microsoft publisher to make an 'interactive presentation for a doctors surgery' (Which I can do in my sleep, and I can't use a computer without breaking it) then write about how we did it, and have all design stuff and so on for coursework, which has ended up as an inch-high stack of paper in a folder for coursework, and I get to do it all again next year.. =/ (I got an A on it though =)) And for homework, we get worksheet after worksheet on the data protection act, and software and hardware and so on. It's kinda useless, but we get to listen to music and stuff, so it's not too bad.

Some other likely ones are Geography, which I never really liked. We'd sit there and get told about the different cloud types, and how arches and stuff in cliffs are formed, and rock erosion with waterfalls and stuff, and then we'd have to colour in maps, or remember the names and locations of all the national parks in England and stuff. I didn't like Geography so much, but I've dropped it now, so I'm not doing it for GCSE, luckily.

And Food tech, (another one I dropped) which is like cooking, but you don't just get to cook. Instead, we'd have to sit there for one or two hours a week, (and we'd get to cook for an hour every other week) listening to the (most likely anorexic) teacher talk about nutrients and food manufacturing and recipe plans and so on, and then she'd go on a rant at me about how unhealthy vegetarianism was. I didn't like her much...

But I quite like RS (Religious Studies as my school calls it) because what we turn it into is just everyone all talking about whatever the thing is that we're learning about (Seriously, getting my year to talk about euthanasia instead of just bitching about each other? Definitely a good lesson =D) but I have a really good teacher for it though, ISFX I think, and she lets us all argue about stuff, or we end up just messing around and watching films that are loosely related to the conversation.

[Seducer of the Homeless]

RE (Religious Education) is a great pile of Indoctrinative Pious Wank, do excuse me for the petulance

i think the tags of this thread 'school useless' is a brilliant way to describe education

as a man wittier than myself once said

"teach a child to read, the rest is just brainwashing"

[Inappropriate Behavior]

"teach a child to read, the rest is just brainwashing"

Good quote!

[Seducer of the Homeless]

another one i like

"we spend 16 months teaching a child to Talk and Walk, then the next 16 years telling them to Shut Up and Sit Down"

[echoplex]

idk, "homeroom" always seemed useless in high school. It always seemed like time that could've been used for more sleep.

Anyway, my schools were always stupid, with half of the classes basically being socializing class with a person there to send people to detention or yell at people for some reason. I can't believe it was all mandatory.

[Nocturna]

Great quotes, Seducer!

[Tyria]

I would say a useless school subject would be one that you don't get anything out of and don't use in your day to day life. For me, that was art.

I do enjoy art on my own time now, so even if you hate it now doesn't mean that it will stay that way.

[didyouknow]

Ancient History... I hate that its so damn fascinating. D:

I actually like my Religion class, my friends and I enjoy targeting the teacher (as the epitome of ignorance) for debates. That, and we're doing the meaning of life at the moment which means I get to crank out all my philosophy quotes (and Hitchhikers :P).

[MindsEye]

FRENCH CLASS in the middle of the USA at a time when SPANISH is becoming dominant.

(Amen to the Health class nonsense - really? fruits and vegetables are good for you?)

Chemistry was useless in the real world and its issues. So was Calculus. Read world application, please! Not for me, anyways.

[Invoke Ninja's True Power]

ENGLISH, I know how to read, I know how to write, why did I have to take these damn classes every single year of school! I think that's why people are so dumb, they expect that if one were to go without an english class for a year they would forget their own native language?!?!

[nickgray]

Every subject in school is useless (more or less) because of their way of "teaching". Instead of an enthusiastic approach, describing the big picture first and then concentrating on the details, the school system relies on memorization and it's your ability to score well on tests that counts. That's where schools succeed the most - at killing your curiosity and desire to learn.

[Invoke Ninja's True Power]

school is like prison for kids. oh and they spend less money on them than actual prisons.

[MindsEye]

nickgray sounds right - the way they teach is practically useless (up until college). Once you get into a good liberal arts college and your mind is exploded with post-modern theory and issues relating to gender, class, race, and sexual orientation are probed and critiqued, you really have no idea. no idea. i feel they did a bad job educating me, they do not want you to "question" the material. so, it's all a drag.

[Invoke Ninja's True Power]

they definitely do a HORRIBLE job at preparing students for the real world in public schools. Fuck all the censorship and sheltering they do, it just hurts us all in the long run.

[Spaekle]

Gym.

I'm sure ready to spend another semester putting up with a sexist coach who makes us all participate in various inane team sports!

[Invoke Ninja's True Power]

don't you love how most of the gym teachers are fat?

[Cogwulf]

Citizenship as it was called in my school. It was half an hour a week where we got taught things like health issues and crime and things like key skills to write on resumes. I think the most useful thing I learnt there was all the names there are for marijuana.

When I was in school, I hated sports of any kind, but then after I left, I discovered that I'm actually good at sport. The problem is that we'd would only ever play a very narrow range of team sports when there's such a wide range of different sports available

[nickgray]

don't you love how most of the gym teachers are fat?

Never saw a fat one :phear: I had 3 sports teachers in high school, 2 were pretty athletic and the last one was, uhhh... insane (quite literally). I really hated the sports classes because all of our teachers just loved to make up absolutely ridiculous "exercises" that involved a good deal of social interaction. Really, if everybody would've quietly ran for 10-15 mins, then quiet pull-ups, push-ups, then something else. But quietly. I'd love sports. And by writing this post I just realized the reason I hate sports - school.

[Spaekle]

Hahahaha, I had an incredibly fat gym teacher in middle school who sounded like she'd been smoking her entire life. She criticized us for not being in shape, of course.

I actually don't have a problem with the running, the push-ups, and those things; if that was all there was to gym, I could deal with it. The social interaction involved makes it horrible, especially since I see no need to bust my ass to retrieve a ball just to make the kids who actually care for some reason happy.

I was really hoping I'd get the coach I had last time I had to take gym; he'd make me wear the clothes and walk for 5 minutes with the rest of the class, then I could go sit on the bleachers and draw with my iPod on for the rest of the period. It was actually pretty fun. :p

[Mondorius]

You know, looking back, elementary and highschool is complete bull. I mean, pretty much all the content taught is what a bunch of people in their fifties think children should know at X age.

And the result? All I can come up with, from what I remember from my time at school, is "what the hell?!"

Seriously, as was said previously, they really should teach us to read, cause the rest really is so much bull.

I do have a suggestion to replace the several years hole that removing everything besides language would leave. Maths, although basic, will pretty much help everyone. Everything else should be activites and theory that will help us discover ourselves, think for ourselves and teach us about the world that we'll be part of.

Big problem with current programs: a lot of it doesn't interest a lot of children and another big part of it is just brainwashing.

I'm not even gonna get started about HOW things should be taught and how teachers should be...

[Anthile]

Hm, I remember two PE teachers in particular. The first one was from Russia and he was... Russian. What followed was... in Soviet Russia, PE absolves YOU!

The second one was more laid back. We discussed often the the physics and background of sports, like why most girls cannot throw balls (they use the wrong foot at first) and such.
Me, being a sports nut, gave always 100% during the lessons that I rarely went out without bleeding and lots of new bruises. I even broke the arm of one of my peers ...accidentally.
He was so impressed that he even named his next son after me. True story.

[Invoke Ninja's True Power]

school that is pre-high school is pretty much just a babysitting service so parents can work and know where their kids are. Like I said before, a glorified mental prison for kids, if you can't conform to the standards you either get in a lot of trouble or they place you in the special ed program. Its all so parents don't have to actually take responsibility for their children anymore.

[nickgray]

a glorified mental prison for kids

Indeed. The only thing you can get there is social experience. And if you're introverted, smart, curious and asking-questions type - then god help you to leave this place sane :gott0:

[Invoke Ninja's True Power]

I had a bit of help from god and I am still insane :eek:

[aklyatne]

I'm going into my junior year of HS this year, and so far, I'd have to say that forced PE is ridiculously useless. Everything they teach you is all common sense. Health/driver's ed was useful, but only took up about 1/4 of the year. The rest was becoming terribly sweaty right before lunch.
Next most useless class: Study hall.
Study hall consisted entirely of sitting in the semi-dark auditorium with no talking so people could 'study' (have a book in their lap and talk quietly.) I just ended up bringing my computer and playing CoD4 for the last third of the year, so it wasn't a complete waste of time :)

[Invoke Ninja's True Power]

study hall was my favorite class in high school.....music time or naptime:D

[RubberDucky451]

You know, looking back, elementary and highschool is complete bull. I mean, pretty much all the content taught is what a bunch of people in their fifties think children should know at X age.

And the result? All I can come up with, from what I remember from my time at school, is "what the hell?!"

Seriously, as was said previously, they really should teach us to read, cause the rest really is so much bull.

I do have a suggestion to replace the several years hole that removing everything besides language would leave. Maths, although basic, will pretty much help everyone. Everything else should be activites and theory that will help us discover ourselves, think for ourselves and teach us about the world that we'll be part of.

Big problem with current programs: a lot of it doesn't interest a lot of children and another big part of it is just brainwashing.

I'm not even gonna get started about HOW things should be taught and how teachers should be...

I think children should be taught on a more specialized basis. This method is obviously more difficult but I believe it would be worth the effort.

[aklyatne]

study hall was my favorite class in high school.....music time or naptime:D

Yes, but BOTH of those were forbidden. They interrupted studying, apparently?

If you listened to music, they'd take your IPod/similar. Sleeping, they'd yell at you. Not fun.

Having a computer and alt+tabbing whenever one of the wardens walked by, though, worked :)

[Invoke Ninja's True Power]

Yes, but BOTH of those were forbidden. They interrupted studying, apparently?

If you listened to music, they'd take your IPod/similar. Sleeping, they'd yell at you. Not fun.

Having a computer and alt+tabbing whenever one of the wardens walked by, though, worked :)

sounds like schools are getting more and more nazi-ish every year that goes by,
maybe it just depends on the school and how much of a douche said teacher feels like being.:p That's ridiculous though, in my school the only thing they cared about was as long as you stayed in the room, unless you got a pass to go to the computer room/library which I did about 33% of the time, and not be noisy/disruptive. I suppose there were different teachers that did study hall and some of them suck more than others, guess I got lucky.

[aklyatne]

the only thing they cared about was as long as you stayed in the room.

Well, that's the exact opposite of how the school-wide system was for me. They didn't actually notice or care when you left the room. I just left and hung out in the drama room for most of the year. Luckily, this year, I've signed up for an 'AP initiatives' program (read: we feel sorry for the smart kids, so let's give them a break from the stupid ones) This year I'll have a combination of AP US History and AP Psychology, with study hall in the same room. After a brief 'interview', I've found out that the teachers are laid back xNTP's :D
Computer games ho!

[Mr.W]

My entire compulsory education career was centered around the state mandated tests we'd all have to take at the end of each year. Teachers taught the test, not the material, making all of the classes fairly useless. That's probably why I did so poorly in high school: I never really gave a damn and nobody gave me a reason to. There were a few great teachers here and there, but even they had to succumb to the responsibilities of their job and cater to the tests. My final year was probably the most pleasant because our junior year was the last time we'd ever have to see those tests.

If I had to pick one, P.E. for sure. I find physical fitness to be important and all, but P.E. did not really teach anybody to enjoy fitness. If anything, it probably made some people hate it. It was more like a forced recess where you didn't get to pick what you wanted to play and you were judged on your enthusiasm. The only times I enjoyed it were when we played soccer which was once in a blue moon. Otherwise, I can exercise in my own free time, how I want to, thanks.

[bdubs]

I would agree that gym class was bad. We played basketball for three years straight and I still do not feel I understand what constitutes a foul. 13 years of religion class culminating in a systematic theology class my junior year left a bad taste in my mouth as well. They best religion class I had attended was in my senior year of highschool. It consisted of a semester of psychology followed by a semester of "world religions", where my class learned the basics about religions other than the one we had been taught for the last 12 years. What ticks me off is that those responsible for the required curriculum of my school system are phasing that class out. They want to remove a remotely interesting class and replace it with more review of the same crap I had learned since kindergarden.:(

[Death]

Since I'm not from UK or US,this might not be familiar with you guys.The most hated subject is of course Moral Ed,yes they taught moral as an subject in here,because if they don't,it's going to be the end of the world.:storks:

How you suppose they teach kids some moral,by making them memorize 'politically correct' definition of 30 or more definition,literally.They even give 2 sided paper with small font asking us to memorize this bs at start of the semester which start from faith in god,family value etc. etc.

Wikipedia explains this subject very well than me:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pendidikan_Moral

In P.E,the teacher just let the student do whatever we want but after running few laps or some aerobic exercise as warm-up,and usually I play badminton.:smoker:

[So Long So Long]

I don't think there's any one most useless class. As for most useless classes, definitely health (nothing but stating the obvious and telling you how to have a "healthy social life"), IT Essentials (come on, who doesn't know how to use Microsoft Office?), and the general vocational requirements (stuff like wood shop, welding, electronics, etc). Fine by me if you're actually interested in those classes, but just about any given class you can take in school leads to a career of some sort, so the vocational requirement is a bit arbitrary.

You'd be surprised.

I'm in a Computer Applications class this year and they are very idiotic when it comes to computers, especially Microsoft Word which is what we are usually using. At the current moment we're working on keyboarding and while I'm sitting there typing seventy-two words per minute they can barely get up to thirteen or fifteen words per minute and they don't even know how to shut a computer off or anything... It's very odd for me to watch, especially when I just want to tell them what to do.

RE (Religious Education) is a great pile of Indoctrinative Pious Wank, do excuse me for the petulance

i think the tags of this thread 'school useless' is a brilliant way to describe education

as a man wittier than myself once said

"teach a child to read, the rest is just brainwashing"

I like that quote.

- - -

I think the most useless class is Gym. I mean, yeah physical activity is great and everything, but getting sweaty and then having to go to class for the rest of the day and deal with it isn't exactly something desired by most people.

[sniktawekim]

i think it all depends on the teacher......

[Kidege]

^ sometimes it depends on the syllabus, which may not even be made by the teacher.

I had to take Leadership and Quality Culture in college. In the 1st we memorized a Stephen Covey book. In the second, we watched 80s interviews with CEOs.

[anyaa]

Dude..
I agree ... drama is the most useless subject at school...
To top it..I was made to sing when I was in 7th standard in school..:(..with my horrible voice...:mad:

[tashi]

i think it all depends on the teacher......
Absolutely. The teacher makes or breaks the class. It's hard to think of a use for a class you despise.

That would be gym for me. They make us swim =(

[SEPKA]

What about subject that are bad despite how good you like the teacher? I got Farming class in secondary school.

[tashi]

What about subject that are bad despite how good you like the teacher? I got Farming class in secondary school.

Wow, farming class?Really? Okay you got a point there...

[preilemus]

when i went to catholic school i had courses on the bible, though i would say that actually helped me see religion for what it is :p

[Scourgexlvii]

Honestly, I have a lot that I find useless:

-Engineering/Architecture: Very limited percent of my school will be engineers or architects. Probably less now that we've suffered through those classes.

-Gym: My school is kind of at the point that none of the students are really out-of-shape, and none will be star athletes, so gym is useless.

-Science Fiction: an elective (I happened to quite like it in fact), but after a total of about one hundred days in that class, I cannot think of anything I learned...

-Labs: I honestly don't see what they do for you, using simple experiments to show simple concepts. The only thing I can see coming out of it is knowing how to write a lab report, but honestly, That should take one class period.

-German: My Favorite class, don't get me wrong, but it really has no purpose. It's fun as hell though.

[Döden]

Info Tech. I hated it, I had no friends in there and it was awkward and all we did was make PowerPoints. A couple things people put in their PowerPoints:
"Apes walk on their uncles."
"This college offers incest science" (meant "insect")

I never took it but "Early Chldhood Development" just seems like a massive ugly pit in my already financially unstable school. Piaget's stages of development? Studies on children's interactions? Any sort of research or work pertaining to the subject whatsoever? Not on your life.
Nevermind that the materials probably don't cost much, all people did in there was make construction paper crafts and felt easter eggs.

[shadowdrums4]

I have to say there has been very few subjects in school I've liked or found useful.

In the second grade I was forced into a Christian private school, some of the most miserable days of my life. We had to recite bible verses each day. Then we were given workbooks and we had to get through a certain number of pages to go outside/go to lunch. It wouldn't have been too bad (work at your own pace quietly at a desk facing the wall and no talking FTW) but the subjects were boring, and the students were not very intelligent. In fact they despised smart kids. Which led to me and this other kid being pushed in a hole that was too big for us to get out of on the playground. I think that was when my hatred for school started.

The next year I was back at the private school and there was a program for smart kids that teachers decided to test you for based on what they saw in class out of you. I failed it on purpose, lazily drawing balloons out of the circles, (squiggly line yeah!) and missing some questions. The teacher figured out I had done it though because she gave me a different version as a game and I did much better. My answer was just "Don't put me in the program" and when pressed for a reason I responded "Just don't" which was actually good because that year I actually had my first music class which I loved.

P.E. was useless until high school. All we did was run and lift weights then and on Friday we took basic heath tests that we used the book on. It was very easy to stay with a kid who was in the middle and look like I was maxing out when I wasn't. I was actually a little ashamed because my class wasn't very fit at all. I mean I'm asthmatic for God sake. The worst was the gym teachers who tried to tell me asthma didn't exist when I was having trouble breathing. "Everyone breathes hard after they run" yes but their bronchial tubes don't constrict causing them to STOP breathing! "Well such and such athlete is asthmatic too" I'm not trying to get out of class! Just let me go to the nurse and get my damn inhaler jeez! I actually like working out and stuff I just don't like it on the public school level and there was a freaking dance we had to learn each year. SUCKED.

I normally love science and math but this year I was forced into Anatomy which I hate with a passion. This is partially due to the fact that the teacher is in her first year of teaching the subject and knows NOTHING about it. One kid asked for a real example of the process of the nervous system that was on our sheet. She re-explained it the same way (as she does with any question) and I raised my hand and tried to stay respectful "I think she means a real world example" and she stood there a few seconds and moved to the next slide. :mad: Worse she gives us packets that are basically busy work and don't help us understand it at all. We had to memorize the different bones. Now part of it is yes I was forced into the class (My school only requires 3 sciences and I asked to be signed up for no science but the teacher put me in anatomy saying "You can just switch out" but no they wouldn't let me take another band class! Um going to major in MUSIC!) This is the first class I've ever had genuine trouble in. I studied hard and got a 78 on the muscular test because she didn't teach us that crap! :(If it drops my GPA lower than a 3.0 I don't get the HOPE scholarship and that will piss me off. :aufsmaul:

The math I have this year is my 5th (I doubled up sophomore year) and it's completely useless calculus. At the beginning of this unit, there was a disclamer "*Graphing calculators have made calculus obsolete but we still learn it anyway (I interpreted it as because the government said so! I think it gave some problem solving spill)" I liked algebra and geometry quite a bit. Trig was useless but I did like the teacher a lot.

Art classes were pretty useless to me too. I can't draw or paint to save my life. I have the art skills of a kindergarten student and not a particularly good one. Most of my art teachers were douche bags except one, (Elementary school art teacher threw a chair at a student)

Music theory is my favorite class (except maybe percussion.) The cool thing about that class is you had to take a year of band, guitar, or music appreciation before you could go into it. In other words, you had to know what you were doing and be genuinely interested in music. (I've been told that college will be a lot like this class and I hope so.) The school only offers it to look good though. "Look we are watching for our little musicians isn't that nice" and there is no higher level after that. (I'm a senior anyway but it would have been nice to have some kind of 4 year course on it.)

*Just remembered this is a useless subject thread. The absolutely most useless class we have is called "Instructional Focus" It's basically like a homeroom/study hall mix. If it was study hall the whole time, it would be okay but the way they do it is stupid. The first 45 minutes you go over something stupid (The juniors had to sit through a presentation on sexting) where they give us no duh information most of the time. Occasionally it's something useful, like we went over credit scores at one point, but mostly business communication skills and such. The second half is a study hall recovery period, this would be great but what they do is have you get these green passes for where you are going. You have to get there in the first 6 minutes and stay there the rest of the block. Missed 2 quizes and could knock them both out one after the other? Too bad, Even worse this year they decided that kids weren't allowed to go to the band room and practice. Um we have PLAYING TESTS, concerts to get ready for, and again I'm majoring in it, I need to get as good as possible! If I'm caught up everywhere else, what's the problem? :mad:

I don't like advanced comp either. Useless essays where we have to stay in the given topic even if you don't agree with any of the things you are supposed to be proving. We also go over basics from elementary school, seriously what senior doesn't know what "Cause and Effect" are? Oh man and the Laws of Life essay, complete bull. (I need to write one, and I may take the brainwashing quote :phear:)

I always sat in most classes going, "If I wanted to know that I would have looked it up" I'm a teenager that hates school. That's a real rarity huh? </sarcasm>

[Sparrow]

Ethics and religious cultures. We learn about religion, ethics and morals. El oh el.

[Adymus]

I took a Health class in junior high that was a total bullshit class. The bulk of it was on not having sex until marriage and not doing drugs.

[bananaphallus]

'Intro to Computers', a prerequisite I had to take freshman year. Oh my f*cking goodness. Every nook and cranny of every Microsoft Office application, we had to know, and the tests were based in the programs themselves, you had to know where to click, the contents of every menu, no trial and error allowed, etc., it was like one enormous and extremely complicated game of Simon. Gah, I honestly hadn't thought about that class until just now. Sure there's some use in becoming familiar with these applications - which I already was pre-taking-the-class - but it was just taken to the absolute extreme, needlessly in-depth.

[echoplex]

Lunch.

Who had time to eat with all the fascinating, though-provoking learning going on? Wonderfully stimulating and not the least bit repetitive or boring.

Amirite?

[Words]

I know I'll face conflict but I'll say it: Mathematics. None of my preferred jobs requires this and its extreme repetition uses too much time and EVEN effort.

[intuitivet]

Having both Religious education AND citizenship! They're the same subject D:

[BigApplePi]

Theoretical physics in college was totally useless for me. I paid good money for that? Lots of equations and they didn't explain any of them. Made no sense. At least the class was useless. I didn't hate it because after introductory exposure I stopped paying attention. My advice is don't take theoretical physics unless you are a physics major. Can't remember what grade I got. The prof probably never bothered to grade anyone.

[Luminates]

For me, it's hard to tell what a "useful" class is. Most of my classes have random teachers that act like they want me to sleep. My current SENIOR math class is just a weekly packet about stuff i learned in the 8-9th grade. So to me, its 20 min of work and 50 min of sleep. I also have another teacher who specializes in Psychology classes and at least the first half of class is just a sit-n-gossip, well for the class at least, i'm in the back with my head down :D

But as for a specific class, i would have to agree with majority in saying Health class. It's all about "how" we should live our health life. there not really pushing me to do it, just telling me and giving us random facts like ones you would find in trivial pursuit "Health Edition":storks:

I know I'll face conflict but I'll say it: Mathematics. None of my preferred jobs requires this and its extreme repetition uses too much time and EVEN effort.

~in case of double poster haters~

I agree with you there, but some math classes are very well needed and useful. My current class however is a complete joke. I have forced myself into believing its a nap time class, the teacher doesn't care, not one kid complains about the laziness of both the class and teacher, well .... its just a mess. lol

[Architectonic]

"Social studies"

It might be good if they taught it properly. But as it turns out, the people in those fields have no idea how to produce comprehensive systematic research. (slight exaggeration)

[intuitivet]

"Social studies"

It might be good if they taught it properly. But as it turns out, the people in those fields have no idea how to produce comprehensive systematic research. (slight exaggeration)
Ah yes, this happened in my Psychology class. We learnt the theory and yet we wont be putting into practice as the exam board decided to stop doing the active coursework! So now I will just think about doing a study :)

[Maiken]

I loved religious studies :) Even though I'm an atheist I thinks it's a good thing to learn about different religions. (Also, it was an easy A.)

The classes I found to be useless were:
- German. I really don't like it, when I go to Germany I speak English even though I should be able to speak German.
- PE. Stupid, stupid class!!!
- Drama. Even more stupid!!!
- Classical studies. Reading The Iliad and looking at old vases, hmmm... ???

[intuitivet]

I loved religious studies :) Even though I'm an atheist I thinks it's a good thing to learn about different religions. (Also, it was an easy A.)

The classes I found to be useless were:
- German. I really don't like it, when I go to Germany I speak English even though I should be able to speak German.
- PE. Stupid, stupid class!!!
- Drama. Even more stupid!!!
- Classical studies. Reading The Iliad and looking at old vases, hmmm... ???
What's wrong with PE? It gets people to do exercise and is good for you overall. Sure, it's competitive which is a pain, but it's still a useful class.
Never heard of classical studies!

[Maiken]

What's wrong with PE? It gets people to do exercise and is good for you overall. Sure, it's competitive which is a pain, but it's still a useful class.
Never heard of classical studies!

Yeah, i guess it's useful. I just prefer exercising on my own. The only thing in PE I enjoyed was learning to dance tango and lancier for prom.

Classical studies = ancient greek stuff = boring
I dont know when I'll ever use it. I think I have already forgotten most of it.

[citrusbreath95]

I don't think any subjects are completely useless, you can always learn something from them, even if it doesn't relate to the topic what-so-ever though, my least favorite is health class

[Geminii]

While I had classes that bored me rigid in school, I can vaguely see how each of the subjects had a core of usefulness, even if the expression of them was fossilized. I would have liked the ability to test out of various classes, though. Even if it was only testing out of a few months' worth and the freed up time had to be spent on researching/reading for the more advanced stuff in that year, and retesting every couple of weeks, with failing to keep X months ahead meaning having to go back into the classroom.

But nooo, that would have meant social separation from my peer group, and different schooling experiences, and we couldn't have THAT.

[Cati]

My most useless subject would have to be either Keyboarding or Job Search, both classes required by my high school. Keyboarding was an hour and a half of surfing the net while "taking typing tests" and Job Search was 90 minutes of copying documents and throwing paper at each other. Then there was the SAT prep class that actually lowered my scores by 60 points. And Food Nutrition, where I learned how to properly set a table. Now that I think of it, I've taken many useless school subjects, though I guess I probably should have paid more attention to Job Search...

[Starfruit M.E.]

Er... Physical Education was basically useless. But it was fun. Career Pathways was useless to me, but other people might have been assisted by it. Four years of health class was useless because we should have covered that junk about the body in science... and what we couldn't do (like nutrition and sex) should have only taken a year to cover. Required study hall, and study hall in middle school are useless. But hey... I learned to draw anime in there! Anyways, I feel there were a lot of useless classes. If I have kids, I might tutor them and save their time.

[HecticRat]

Dance class was mandatory at my elementary school. That sucked.

In high school, I'm not sure. "Lifestyles", maybe. It was basically health class only they tried to present us with teen issues in typical "If you do drugs you'll shoot yourself in the face" fashion.

In university, I can't say I've found any of my classes useless so far but the labs and tutorials have been for the most part. I'm not saying they serve no purpose, I'm just saying they're poorly organized - and on top of that, some of them must be taken (ie. paid for) in order to get a course credit despite the fact that attendance is NOT mandatory. For example, for the first 4-5 weeks or my geology lab we just looked at 40 or so rocks and minerals and were then tested on how well we could visually identify them. This exam was worth 10% of our grade in the class. Then, without warning, the next 3-4 weeks involved meticulous geometry work that could easily have been done in about 30 minutes on a computer. Also, I haven't had one lab or tutorial with a teacher/supervisor (ie. a student with no training in education) who could speak English fluently.

[Geminii]

A bit more flexibility would have been nice. Part of growing up in a smallish isolated city and not going to a fantastically expensive high school was that the choice of subjects was extremely limited.

I wouldn't have minded doing languages so much if I got to choose the language. Instead, I had mandatory German for two years and a choice of French or Japanese for the same period. None of these were things I was particularly interested in at the time. Likewise things like Photography and Typing (on manual typewriters - and yes, we had a computer lab which was hardly ever used). These last two were just huge lumps of wtf. At least, looking back, I can kind of see the reasoning behind the German - "English and German are closely related, therefore German should be easy to learn."

Ironically, these days I consider both French and Japanese might be interesting to have learned. Heh. C'est la vie. Still, it's not as bad as the kids in other schools in the area who had to suffer through Indonesian "because it's a nearby country".

We had six months of sewing/textiles. Even in that decade, tailoring and home clothing repair was pretty much a dead art. I wouldn't have minded spending a week learning the basics of setting out a pattern, pinning it, and maybe reattaching shirt buttons, but six months?

Likewise the six months of cooking. If I ever needed to learn to cook, there were cookbooks.

The six months (each) of woodwork, metalwork, and technical drawing were fun, but I still question their necessity in a modern school environment. Or the need to drag the process out over six months when six weeks would have covered it.

I don't mind electives per se. It's just better when they actually are elective, and not mandatory. Particularly when they're based less on what would be useful to the students and more on whatever ancient leftover tools the school happens to have lying around.

Including primary school, I took five years of German. two of French, and one of Latin (that I remember). As a result of those eight collective subject-years, I can count to ten in two of those three languages. And these days, if I wanted to know how to do that in any language, I could look pronunciation guides and voice clips up on the web and in two hours have my counting-to-ten accent at least reduced down to the 'intelligible' level in that language.

[LifeLine]

I'm in public school, and we have a church across from our school where students can get out of class to learn about Christianity. What's the point of that?

I'd have to say that any sort of agricultural class (yes, we have them as electives) is useless. In this day and age, computer education will take you so much farther.

[chanjhj]

Honestly? Er...Mathematics? :D Hahaha, sorry. Mathematics and I have an odd love-hate relationship. Mostly hate though, like 99.9999%. I've always been more partial to languages even though I couldn't take on a third language in school simply because I didn't do thaat well for my second language which I didn't really have an interest in at that time. I would've loved to take Japanese. Or French. But truly, as for useless, probably Physical Education or Civics and Moral Education. I mean you do learn things. but they're...well...
Design and Technology was rather useless too, at least for me, since I saw no point in it.

[Jedi]

I gained the most physical education during recess in elementary school. "P.E." was a complete waste of time and energy.

[The Lurker]

We had mandatory "dance" lessons in Elementary School PE. Positively awful for the super shy and unpopular kid that I was, surrounded by others in a school perplexingly filled to bursting with soon-to-be "jock" assholes. Gymnastics was also terrible, and that was mandatory every year from 1st to 6th grade.

We also had a manadatory *semester* of Spanish in 7th grade (what did they hope we would actually learn from and retain in a few months, especially given that foreign languages weren't truly offered until 9th grade?). I personally believe foreign languages should be left to electives and in a large variety...our high school only offered Spanish and German (the latter of which I actually wanted to learn) when I entered, and only introduced Latin and Japanse, at an enrollment cost of ~$300 due to "distance learning", or something to that effect, in my Junior year.

And Keyboarding. Don't get me started on this class. Our teacher scolded me daily on my typing techniques, even though I held top scores in words per minute. On top of that, we had to make numerous and inane PowerPoint presentations regarding such riveting topics as the geography of Japan, just because she once visited there like 10 years prior. It wouldn't have been so bad if the topics we had to write on were actually interesting. Stuffing the curriculum with irrelevent BS, much?

A year after that was a second computer-related class which, as you've probably guessed, was a glorified Microsoft Office tutorial. Torture.

In 9th grade we had Health class which was extraordinarly useless. Here is a summation of what we "learned": "Exercise often, don't get yourself an STD, drugs are bad."...in other words, common sense, and stuff that we learned in Sex Ed. starting in, like, 4th grade. It was an easy A to be certain, but a crushingly boring, tedious A.

Since then, oddly enough, no class has immediately jumped out to me as being useless, though a year of "English and American Literature" proved to mostly be one giant snooze-fest for me.

[Jah]

I like your signature Lurker.
Though I cannot remember where it is taken from. (yes, I know what it means, German is an easy language to decipher)


I think Religion was the most useless one due to the teacher. (Efficiently skipping the chapter on Satanism, remarking when I questioned her that "you probably know enough about that" which I did, but that was not the point, since I knew most the things she was supposed to teach me) Who gave good grades to those who embroidered the pages and wrote long answers, rather than correct answers, giving us asinine homework like drawing crucifixes (as though any sensible 16-year old would consider this related to education) and focusing solely on educating us in the ways of Christendom and it's variations rather than the multitude of religions we should be taught about.
Never accepting questions relating faith that might actually bring enlightenment into the classroom as to what faith was about because of her choice to accept the simple answer of Authority. (Like that ever excuses anything, Explains anything or is wrong to question.)

Needless to say, I never really could get her to accept that I knew the answers and my unwillingness to raise my hand was due to me realizing that as long as she heard the answer I didn't have to "ruin" the education of the others, as well as her forcing me and the only other above-average intelligent person in the room to sit on the two desks in front of the classroom so that we wouldn't sleep through her classes. (In fact I did raise my hand experimentally a few times only to confirm that her blind-spot was in fact right in front of her nose. She seemed content to nag me to raise my hand since I did say the answers loud enough for me and her to hear due to automatic responses once questioned about fact.)

(side story: she kept remarking how me and my friend were clearly the most intelligent, but she wished we would participate more and work more. Here's a hint, if you want me to work you need to challenge my intellect, not dull it by asking simple questions.
School never agreed with me on that, and seems bent on dulling the smart ones down to average and somehow evening it out by raising the more intellectually slow to the same average. Some fear that there might turn out to be some people better suited for certain tasks than others. Forever trapped in PC hell. )

[onthewindowstand]

Prolly sex ed. people are going to have sex whenever they feel like no class is gonna stop that. LOL

[The Lurker]

I like your signature Lurker.
Though I cannot remember where it is taken from. (yes, I know what it means, German is an easy language to decipher)


It's from a Rammstein song titled "Haifisch". That verse itself was adapted from a verse in "Die Moritat von Mackie Messer" (Mack the Knife) from Die Dreigroschenoper (The Threepenny Opera).

http://herzeleid.com/en/lyrics/liebe_ist_fuer_alle_da/haifisch

[Alexk]

Most useless class I took in high school Counselor Assistant. Granted I had the class because of strange circumstances, but the five of us sat in the main guidance office and played games all day, except for the one day we had to seal envelopes because the machine that did it broke.
Most useless class I had to take... History. Anyone who argues that history is important because you may repeat the mistakes made in the past doesn't think that maybe by not being as much of a moron as those who made the mistakes, you won't make them. I believe it's important to learn what they discovered what they did, but not the events.

[Alana]

basket weaving... yup...

[ohrtonz]

I took a class called Film Lit. The history of movies and broadcasting. Watch a lot of movies though. But take stupid notes like "who is the actor" "what were they wearing". It almost helped me in a game of Scene It for an old movie but I couldn't remember the name.

But I like movies. I watch a lot and dig up actors to see what else they did, or that one person who had a small part. So I guess I have a broad understanding of movies and history, and I keep learning and watching special features anyways.

[Ranondrugs]

Everything is worthwhile / if the soul isn't small.

Original: Tudo vale a pena / Se a alma não é pequena.
Poem "Mar Português", Verses 7-.

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Fernando_Pessoa

[Spectrum]

I'm currently in high school in Georgia (US) and it's all useless shit. I'm not even learning anything in Honors Chemistry......

[Reptillian]

school is like prison for kids. oh and they spend less money on them than actual prisons.

And to add more words to there. You are sent to the so-called wonderful education only for your age and adults often denies your situation while taking away your own rights only for the solely purpose of fundings and economic-related topics than the purpose of your education. There are so many illiterate graduates that comes out of high school right away and there is a lot of college students taking remedial classes simply because school obviously do hinder their development of mastering the material by simply affecting their behavior in a negative way which in turns affects the mind in a negative way. The brain mechanism has been observed to be affected by the environmental factors and experience factors and the brain could be in trouble state when the environmental factors and environmental feature isn't merely meeting the student's needs. Why it is homeschoolers and unschoolers are doing far better under the circumstances of having more flexibility? It's simply because flexibility are the key to help meets the needs of people.

You are told what to do and obey in prison and school. The food quality is very low for both sections. The bathroom qualities are unsanitory. They give the bullies a break just like they give prisoners some breaks. Boot camps are known to be used as an eliminator of those who opposes school for a reason of maintaining the state of society.

The next few sentences is not directed to you anyway. The real freedoms starts at age 21 whether they deserved it or not. Surely your mind can be more developed, but the thing is if you're not using the mind properly and you're only abusing your freedom at that age, why should I honestly give a shit about you. There's plenty of documents of teenagers who brain are more developed than adults before the age 18 and the real final development of the brain stops at 40 according to recent researches. Age is the least important factor when it comes to the way the person should be treated due to the fact that age affects maturity in the physical sense and it has been proven that proper experience and environment do benefit a lot more than aging alone.

This wall of text might piss some people off, but this is exactly how I feel as an anti-society culture. This is coming from a person who was raised by people who supports society and living with people who support schools entirely all my life.

As for the question of the title itself, no subjects are useless unless there is absolutely no benefits for you out of the subject itself. Every subjects is admirable in a way or another.

I can add a whole lot more to this and a whole lot of argument why school doesn't work for a lot of students, but I'm keeping the post like this for now.

[Dogod]

I'm currently in high school in Georgia (US) and it's all useless shit. I'm not even learning anything in Honors Chemistry......
My H Chem teacher is INTP. That, plus the fact that I've always been into science, makes that class one of my favorites, even though I knew a lot of the material already.

As for most useless, I'd have to go with either Health, PE, or English. I did learn that I'm good at tennis in PE a few days ago. It's also fun. (Partially because I don't have to be social to play.)

[zxc]

At my school it was woodwork :D

In some ways the most practical subject, I found it extremely useless, and just plain boring. The fact that I was terrible at it didn't help my opinion of it.

[Fghw]

English anywhere beyond 5th grade

[ummidk]

Well english class is completely arbitray.......that being said its prob the most useful class for a majprity of the population

uhh drama is fairly useless but prob has more practical application for most than both music and art both of which ppl who are interested will pursue outside of class and of no real value to those who are not. Also im not a big art person but i cant be the only person who finds the idea of being able to teach art laughable.

[snafupants]

I guess useless depends on dynamic work environments and individual needs. I mean, if all professions started employing math skills more, math would become more relevant overnight. English, especially grammar and composition, is somewhat important because our world is composed of words, and writing is essential for most jobs. Succinct expression makes a good impression.

[snafupants]

English anywhere beyond 5th grade

The research shows early reading, writing and arithmetic are very predictive for academic success, and even broader intellectual development. So, if English is taught well early, then I kinda agree.

[just george]

Climate science. Pure propaganda with no basis in reality.

[Etheri]

Old dead thread is old. Whatever...


Chemistry was useless in the real world and its issues. So was Calculus. Read world application, please! Not for me, anyways.
MADNESS. Just kidding, you're right. It's often not the most useful for those who don't study on, tho I do thing it's very valuable for alot of people who get into either bio or chemistry later... Which admittingly isn't that many people.

Climate science. Pure propaganda with no basis in reality.

I've had very decent climate science classes... Then again i'm talking about classes for peicience. Those in highschool were coupled with geography and geology and rather useless. :(

Personally, I never really got why I had basic french literature in french, dutch literature, german, english, world history and esthetics as mandatory classes while I had chosen maths and sciences in the last two years of highschool... Reinforced general education until 18, ...
Then again, now that i'm done with it I don't really mind. I can tell a roman styled church from a gothic one, atleast? (I swear this will be useful knowledge one day... Or not.)

[Wolf18]

Gym class and English. As a classmate wrote in our school newspaper for a debate about tracking English, "I've been learning to write a thesis sentence for the past 5 years. And, to be perfectly honest, I'm tired of it." And she's right. I'm reading Macbeth in English right now, which is something that I read already when I was 9 years old because I wanted to and saw performed when I was 8. Now there are a bunch of teenagers trying to read it and complaining about the Shakespearean English. I'm learning the same things every year and it's boring. On to gym: in primary school, gym was good. We had a great, fair teacher and I really enjoyed it. Now it's a bunch of annoying students doing boring stretches with no opportunity to actually exercise.

Many people seem to be saying that religious education is the most useless. I disagree. My teachers are all brilliant, and I am learning a lot of skills that I can apply to the modern world, namely logic, deduction, problem solving, introspection, and creative thinking. It's one of my few classes in which I can truly think, ask any type of question, and apply it to the real world. Even if you don't look at it from a religious perspective, it's pretty cool. Not to mention the fact that I can understand and read Aramaic (ancient Babylonian) which is useless but still pretty cool. Unfortunately, it means that are school day is over 9 hours long.

SW

[SpaceYeti]

I would have to say it's English. Four years of your own language, and you still suck at it by the time you're done? Or maybe nutrition.

[snafupants]

I would have to say it's English. Four years of your own language, and you still suck at it by the time you're done? Or maybe nutrition.

Couldn't that indicate you suck?

[redbaron]

English by far. I learnt literally nothing in the 6 years of the subject at secondary school, despite getting pretty much straight A's. Total joke.

We had a great, fair teacher and I really enjoyed it. Now it's a bunch of annoying students doing boring stretches with no opportunity to actually exercise.

Wolf18 I'm curious if gym class is similar to P.E. (physical education) in Australia. In Australia P.E. actually covered some parts of biology and had theory work, stuff about plyometrics, different types of weight training for different results etc. I actually learnt heaps about optimal training and how to target different types of fitness.

I always find it strange when people complain about 'gym' class, it makes me wonder if in the states it's anything like what I was taught in school, which had a decent amount of theory work and was all about how to practically apply what you learnt. In one point we had to choose a specific attribute that we wanted to improve in ourselves, I can only remember four of our choices which were:

- vertical leap
- sit and reach flexibility
- max push-ups in 1 min
- 1.6km (1 mile) run best time

We had to implement a program based on 3 exercises that would improve our ability. I chose vertical leap and actually improved by 18cm (roughly 5 inches) in only 4 weeks. The class had homework which was pretty much based on following set routines (of your own choosing) and then hypothesising as to why (or why not) they weren't successful etc.

Is 'gym' class in the U.S. anything like that? I have a feeling the answer is no to be honest, but for me it was by far my favourite subject.

[pjoa09]

English by far. I learnt literally nothing in the 6 years of the subject at secondary school, despite getting pretty much straight A's. Total joke.



Wolf18 I'm curious if gym class is similar to P.E. (physical education) in Australia. In Australia P.E. actually covered some parts of biology and had theory work, stuff about plyometrics, different types of weight training for different results etc. I actually learnt heaps about optimal training and how to target different types of fitness.

I always find it strange when people complain about 'gym' class, it makes me wonder if in the states it's anything like what I was taught in school, which had a decent amount of theory work and was all about how to practically apply what you learnt. In one point we had to choose a specific attribute that we wanted to improve in ourselves, I can only remember four of our choices which were:

- vertical leap
- sit and reach flexibility
- max push-ups in 1 min
- 1.6km (1 mile) run best time

We had to implement a program based on 3 exercises that would improve our ability. I chose vertical leap and actually improved by 18cm (roughly 5 inches) in only 4 weeks. The class had homework which was pretty much based on following set routines (of your own choosing) and then hypothesising as to why (or why not) they weren't successful etc.

Is 'gym' class in the U.S. anything like that? I have a feeling the answer is no to be honest, but for me it was by far my favourite subject.
redbaron

Lucky bastard.

If I did that I'd be dunking basketballs by now.

Can you dunk though?

How did you improve yours?

[redbaron]

redbaron

Lucky bastard.

If I did that I'd be dunking basketballs by now.

Can you dunk though?

How did you improve yours?

I could 'just' dunk - one-handed rim-rattlers. But I had to have perfect conditions, I never managed to dunk in an actual game, but it was cool to do it just in a warm-up. Though since I'm only 5-9/10, if I had the same vertical but was a decent height I would have been slamming it. My 6'5 friend with the same vertical could really slam it down, I was a little jealous at that :mad:

I did two plyometric exercises and one weighted exercise (squats).

First one was from a complete crouch, a two-footed jump as high as possible, then when landing go straight back into a complete crouch and then use the 'bounce' to then jump as high as possible again. Basically plyo is supposed to teach you co-ordination as well as power, teaching you to recruit fibres in the correct sequence (this isn't really a conscious thing, it's basically muscle memory) and a bunch of other stuff.

Second was one-legged hops, basically from a half-crouch, jump (hop) off one leg as high as possible, then land on the other leg and again use the, 'bounce' to jump as high as possible off one leg again.

Squats I had to play around with, the focus was on developing power so I worked with my teacher on breaks to get the optimum weight. We ended up deciding that about 20-25% of my 1rep max was best (roughly 20kg, pretty light for squats), because I could do it fast without breaking form.

I did it 4 times a week, every second day. The sets from memory of plyometrics were generally like 3 x 20, 16, 12 or something. I can't remember exactly, they're pretty gruelling near the end especially.

The reason it worked so well though was also that I assessed results with my teacher every week and we tweaked the sets/reps each time so that I would be basically working until on the last few reps of the set would be to pretty much muscular failure, based on how I'd improved in fitness over time. Although I'm not 100% sure if that is actually safe to do with plyometrics, I think I read it can be dangerous and you're liable to injure something doing plyometrics with bad form - so basically not to do them to the point of failure. Though this might be more of a precautionary thing aimed at idiots who are in terrible physical shape who suddenly want to dunk a basketball.

[SpaceYeti]

Couldn't that indicate you suck?
... That is what I said, so... yeah? I meant it in the ubiquitous "you" sort of way, but there's a fine chance I did suck straight out of high school, also.

[C.Hecker88]

I would have to go with HOPE, a health+physical fitness course that is mandatory for anyone wanting to graduate high school where I live.

Agriculture is another one of those classes that I hated since I heard about it.

[Wolf18]

English by far. I learnt literally nothing in the 6 years of the subject at secondary school, despite getting pretty much straight A's. Total joke.



Wolf18 I'm curious if gym class is similar to P.E. (physical education) in Australia. In Australia P.E. actually covered some parts of biology and had theory work, stuff about plyometrics, different types of weight training for different results etc.
I actually learnt heaps about optimal training and how to target different types of fitness.
I always find it strange when people complain about 'gym' class, it makes me wonder if in the states it's anything like what I was taught in school, which had a decent amount of theory work and was all about how to practically apply what you learnt. In one point we had to choose a specific attribute that we wanted to improve in ourselves, I can only remember four of our choices which were:

- vertical leap
- sit and reach flexibility
- max push-ups in 1 min
- 1.6km (1 mile) run best time

We had to implement a program based on 3 exercises that would improve our ability. I chose vertical leap and actually improved by 18cm (roughly 5 inches) in only 4 weeks. The class had homework which was pretty much based on following set routines (of your own choosing) and then hypothesising as to why (or why not) they weren't successful etc.

Is 'gym' class in the U.S. anything like that? I have a feeling the answer is no to be honest, but for me it was by far my favourite subject.

in secondary school we spent one unit a year on that. I go to a Jewish school, so it could be different, as they don't put so much emphasis on Phys Ed (which is ironic because most of the Jews who don't end up scholars seem to end up street fighters and gunmen). My friends who went to a secular secondary school said it was more like what you described. But I think it's really supposed to be the same thing, and we really are supposed to call it PE, I was just keeping in with everyone else's theme of writing "gym". "Gym" is really just my school's slang.

And I had the same experience in English as you did. The same thing for 6 years in a row.

SW

[VII]

Without a doubt P.E. I don't need to be taught that getting hockey sticked in the shins hurt. I despised team games such as football and made a point of not learning the rules. The repercussion of course being made to run around the school grounds, and of course not being particularly popular with peers whithin that lesson time. However the one benefit came when we moved on to tennis. I very much enjoyed playing the teacher and hitting the ball as far it would go, just so I could watch them retreive it.

[Nezaros]

I would have to go with HOPE, a health+physical fitness course that is mandatory for anyone wanting to graduate high school where I live.

HOPE was absolutely horrible.

[Back2Basics]

Political science