INTP main characters?

[JoeJoe]

I seem to find that there are very few books with INTP main characters, in fact, I can't think of any.
INTJ's however seem to be quite common (Artemis Fowl).

[Felan]

I think the main character, played by Robin Williams, in the movie "Of What Dreams May Come" was an INTP.

[Vegard Pompey]

Caden Cotard in Synecdoche, New York.

[JoeJoe]

Thanks guys, would be cool if you kept them coming. :)

[Vegard Pompey]

Caden is really the only one I can think of. I find INTPs to be a rare breed in fiction, as main characters or otherwise. I think that, as an author, to write an INTP character, you have to write with your head in the clouds.

(And one of the most common complaints I hear with Synecdoche, New York is that it's overly pretentious and artsy. I can see where this is coming from but I think it's a masterpiece.)

[JoeJoe]

I guess INTPs are also so rare in books, because they have such a bad habit of imperfection and procrastination, which could be frustrating for many readers.

e.g. INTJs on the other hand are hard-working and dedicated. They achieve their goals. A lot more satisfying to read.

[Vegard Pompey]

My current project has an INTP main character... (Maybe. I haven't decided which character will take the protagonist role yet.) Coincidentally, my current project is also nonsensical bullshit with severe implications on reality as we know it.

But yeah, you have a point. And I think that for this reason, almost all INTPs in fiction are given J tendencies just to achieve more.

[motrhead]

I think the main character, played by Robin Williams, in the movie "Of What Dreams May Come" was an INTP.

That would make sense to me. I really identified with the character. It's one of my all-time favourite movies, after "Wings of Desire". Having been through some heavy (near death for my wife) trauma many years ago, I really felt everything this guy went through.

[motrhead]

My current project has an INTP main character... (Maybe. I haven't decided which character will take the protagonist role yet.) Coincidentally, my current project is also nonsensical bullshit with severe implications on reality as we know it.


Is this a case of using yourself as the role model for the character?
The novel I wrote last year ended up with the protagonist being too much like myself (unintentionally, but probably unavoidably). I have to rewrite some of it before I will be comfortable with having friends and family read it :o
My character is a reluctant anti-hero. For some strange reason I can identify with those guys;)
Daredevil and Ben Grimm from the comic books come to mind.

I would guess that a few of Robert Heinlein's and Edward Hamilton's characters from their sci-fi books could be INTP.

[Enne]

I always thought Ender, from Ender's Game was an INTP. :)

[Artifice Orisit]

Enne... what am I looking at? Is that work safe?

Anyway, INTP characters are common is stories dealing with insanity, existualism and other such mind-screw topics... Shinji (NGE) could be one, not exactly the most uplifting example of an INTP but his tendency to retreat within himself is uncomfortably familiar.

The Doctor is probably the best example of an INTP, exploring the similarities between an open minded, non-judgemental individual who knows better than to label anyone (or anything) good or evil, and his morally dissonant dark-side.

[loveofreason]

Thomas Covenant, Unbeliever.

From literal and social leper to unwilling and unbelieving saviour.

He epitomises doubt.

The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant, by Stephen Donaldson.

[Kidege]

Any specific Doctor you have in mind, Cog (10th?).

(and *cough* I'll have to disable images in my browser, Enne.)


Edit: More on topic:

I think Pierre Bezukhov from War and Peace may be INTP. He's introverted, has intellectual tendencies, is detached, can be easily led astray... Only problem is that his spiritual quest is far more important to him than his intellectual hunger. So, maybe INFP...

Julien Sorel from The Red and the Black shares some traits with us, but he's very ambitious. Has to be INTJ.

Demetrii Rudin, however, does seem like an INTP to me. The guy's intelligent and loves to show it... Like one of us in flirtatious mode. :p
Then he screws up because he can't get in touch with his F, and screws up again because he can't get over his extreme P tendencies... It's not a flattering portrait.:o

Now that I think about it, the whole Rudin novel is about how lame INTPs are when compared to Feelers or Sensors. *sniffle*

[Artifice Orisit]

Any specific Doctor you have in mind, Cog (10th?).
Yeah, he's good.
But it depends more on the writer, some understand the character, some don't.

[meshram.alok]

What about Howard Roark?

I think he's the ultimate INTP - maybe with some J characteristics.

[snowqueen]

I recently read a gently engaging Nigerian novel called Measuring time by Helon Habila. Its about twins, Mamo and LaMamo, one of whom is clearly INTJ and one who is INTP. the novel is written from the INTP brother's perspective and is very much an insight into his thinking and the dilemmas and situations he gets into are very familiar - it'a a very sympathetic character and the whole novel gives a good insight into Nigerian rural life and politics. I loved it.

[motrhead]

Thomas Covenant, Unbeliever.

From literal and social leper to unwilling and unbelieving saviour.

He epitomises doubt.

The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant, by Stephen Donaldson.

That character bothered me. I read this as a teen, and saw too much of myself in him. The character's choices really bothered me. I couldn't get enough of the series, but disliked it at the same time. Weird.
Between the ages of thirteen and nineteen I read every sci-fi and fantasy novel I could get my hands on, at a rate of three to six books a day(I read very fast), and I hardly remember any of them- but this character was memorable.
Nowadays I rarely read novels, although I did pick up a few classics last year, when I began writing again. I find I remember very little about the story lines or characters that I read about. I have way too much information crammed into my brain...

[Vegard Pompey]

I read very slowly. I stop and think over every little passage, and if it's a book that doesn't reward such behaviour, I probably won't find it very good.

[motrhead]

Haha. I read a bit slower than I used to, but still faster than anyone I have ever met, except for my eldest daughter, who reads the same speed as me (and reads voraciously). I do sometimes go back and reread interesting passages, but I have excellent comprehension. Unfortunatley my brain flushes the information out of my head as soon as I start the next book:o

[snowqueen]

Haha. I read a bit slower than I used to, but still faster than anyone I have ever met, except for my eldest daughter, who reads the same speed as me (and reads voraciously). I do sometimes go back and reread interesting passages, but I have excellent comprehension. Unfortunatley my brain flushes the information out of my head as soon as I start the next book:o

Bet I read faster than you!! :D But I have the same thing with forgetting it all when I start the next book.

[motrhead]

Hmmm. Maybe, but I doubt it.:p Nothing I have ever been able to get through has ever been more than a single day's read. Most are done in an afternoon. Except War and Peace: I cannot finish that book. It is far too dry for my consumption, and I always stop a few chapters in. That one would take more than a day. Is there a *good* translation?
I may forget books, but I remember stupid facts and figures. I have a head full of dimensions and formulae, and I am still better than most at trivia games (although that claim probably wouldn't hold true in this forum). I'm not really a game person, but once in a while I get sucked into a quiz or bunch of quizzes, and sometimes I can't stop until I have done them *all*.
The problem with novels, is that my brain knows they are fiction; therefore they are irrelevant, and are to be discarded. I had that problem with Shakespeare. I found Heinlein to be much more relevant.:eek:

[drumir93]

I saw alot of myself in Holden from The Catcher in the Rye. Whinch made me feel a little crappy since the whole class and the teacher discussed how screwd up he is. The thinking patterns and the way we handle forced commentary are similar,and we both think of our peers as superficial phonies.

[Zero]

It seems like there are a lot to me. Mostly in fantasy and sci fi. I'm pretty sure Terry Pratchett's character Rincewind is an INTP.
I know people have said that L in Death Note is an INTP. Near is an INTJ and Ryuuk is an ENTP.
I've seen INTPs stereotyped as "Nerds" (and wizards -_-;) and often seem to be villains.
Though I think Ada in PoisonWood Bible is an INTP?

Also:
http://www.mypersonality.info/personality-types/intp/
Scroll to the middle.

[Ermine]

It's a possibility, but the way she keeps focusing on spelling words forwards and backwards is kind of autism/aspergers behavior, along with other things about her like her noted lack of close relationships outside of her family (while INTPs just have few relationships rather than none).

[Sapphire Harp]

Theodore Faron from the novel 'The Children of Men' seemed like a pretty good fit as an INTP... (Vastly different from the film, I understand, having not watched it yet.)

I recognized a lot of personal habits in Theo when I was reading it... particularly when he has something just like the 'emotion.exe not found' moments in the story.

Hmm... come to think of it, I thinkTheo might be a better fit for me, personally, than the INTP type as a whole... Does anyone have a perspective on this?

I wonder if the author P.D. James could be an INTP, as well?

[zephryi]

I saw alot of myself in Holden from The Catcher in the Rye. Which made me feel a little crappy since the whole class and the teacher discussed how screwed up he is. The thinking patterns and the way we handle forced commentary are similar,and we both think of our peers as superficial phonies.

I found the same thing when we did Catcher in the Rye this year. We would have a discussion on Holden's motives and attitude, and whenever the more feeling-leaning kids started trying to dissect him, I would just wince because I felt like I knew exactly why he would do something, and they were getting it all wrong. XD

[Red Mage]

My best friend in high school/college told me I reminded him a lot of Holden and told me to read the book. I started it but it was too boring and put it down. Oh well, I'll probably never know what he really thought about me. :p

[del]

This isn't a book, but Daryl Zero from the movie The Zero Effect was definitely an INTP.

[JoeJoe]

*makes a note that he will have to sum up all the books mentioned*

[Inappropriate Behavior]

Thomas Covenant, Unbeliever.

From literal and social leper to unwilling and unbelieving saviour.

He epitomises doubt.

The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant, by Stephen Donaldson.

Good thing I read through this thread or else I'd be just repeating this. Covenant is most certainly INTP.

I can't remember the name of the character, but I believe the main female character in Donaldson's Gap series also might be INTP.

[Jaico]

C. Auguste Dupin, from The Murders in the Rue Morgue/The Mystery of Marie Roget/The Purloined Letter (by Edgar Allan Poe) struck me as very INTP-ish (although one could make a case for INTJ, he seems to be more of an INTP - in contrast to later detectives, like Holmes).

[Trebuchet]

Neal Stephenson's book Cryptonomicon has a good candidate. The book goes back and forth between Randy Waterhouse in the present (INTJ) and his grandfather Lawrence Waterhouse in WWII (INTP). Lawrence is a cryptography expert. He can't remember anyone's name, has no interest in current events, is a good and loyal friend, tends to unconventional approaches, and improvises well when solving problems.

I have also thought that Harry Dresden in the Dresden Files books by Jim Butcher might be INTP. Harry is the only professional wizard in Chicago. (Nothing like Harry Potter, though people do give him a hard time about that.) He has way too much action for an INTP, really, but he is generally motivated by trying not to get killed, rather than a lot of gumption. He is messy and not much of a planner.

Stephen Maturin in Patrick O'Brien's Aubrey-Maturin novels could be INTP also. He is a bit too adventurous, perhaps, but he spends a lot of time alone, doing research. He cares nothing for his appearance, is intellectual and condescending to those who aren't, is gullible, loves music, and is good with his hands. He is very good at concetrating his attention.

Finally, Bob Howard in Charles Stross's Atrocity Archives and Jennifer Morgue might be INTP. Come to think of it, he is probably more INTJ. He is a computer hacker in a Lovecraft world, fighting elder things with tentacles with his laptop, and working for the British government.

[travelnjones]

Sal Paradise of on the road has a couple of very INTP moments, The scene where Dean talks with Carlo as Sal silently watches and the reader alone hears Sals thoughts is very INTP.

[Loki]

1. Louis Wu the main character from Ringworld by Larry Niven.

2. The Mule from The Foundation Series by Issac Asimov.

I'd recommend both novels to INTPs interested in quality science fiction.

[Jaleho]

Let's see...

Kidder from "Microcosmic God"
Ethan Hawke's character in "Explorers"
Weird Al's character in "UHF"
Doc from "Back to the Future" (but probably a J)
Gonzo the Great
Cosmo Kramer (More of an E perhaps)

[Black Pat]

INTP main character:

Dr. Becker from the defunct television show "Becker" was an INTP for sure.

INTP supporting character:

Dr. Cox from the television show "Scrubs" is an INTP.

Their "good INTP" traits: brilliant at their jobs, independent, objective, sarcastic, well-respected by their peers.

Their "bad INTP" traits: caustic, arrogant, insensitive and mean to everybody, excessively mean to the less-competent, task-masters, self-saboteurs, problems with love life, constant nagging fear of failure, reclusive tendencies.

Both of these characters are shown as quite bitter, because they are unnaturally using their "J" trait to be successful in the world rather than their inclination toward "P". I think most INTPs who've tried to sustain a successful project can identify with these folks.

[Adymus]

INTP main character:

Dr. Becker from the defunct television show "Becker" was an INTP for sure.

INTP supporting character:

Dr. Cox from the television show "Scrubs" is an INTP.

Their "good INTP" traits: brilliant at their jobs, independent, objective, sarcastic, well-respected by their peers.

Their "bad INTP" traits: caustic, arrogant, insensitive and mean to everybody, excessively mean to the less-competent, task-masters, self-saboteurs, problems with love life, constant nagging fear of failure, reclusive tendencies.

Both of these characters are shown as quite bitter, because they are unnaturally using their "J" trait to be successful in the world rather than their inclination toward "P". I think most INTPs who've tried to sustain a successful project can identify with these folks.
Uhhhm no, Dr. Cox is an INTJ, frustrated by The incompetence of a world that is not meeting up to his Ni model.

[Ran]

Sorry for jumping in here in the middle of your debate...

I always thought Ender, from Ender's Game was an INTP. :)

Really??? That would be awesome. I loved the Ender's Game series. I'm not knowledgeable about MBTI enough to know who's what type exactly, but I always thought I identified more with Bean (if you've read Ender's Shadow) than Ender.

[Waterstiller]

What about Jaye from Wonderfalls and George from Dead Like Me?

Both are essentially the same character from the same creator. Dead Like Me even talks about personality types in one of the episodes and the character growth of George throughout the series is based on her resolving her I, T, or P with the real world while spouting some darkly hilarious and sarcastic Intuitive narration..

[Adymus]

I just saw a movie called Bickford Shmeckler's Cool ideas, the main character of this movie (Bickford Shmeckler) is classic INTP.



http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0421045/

[Oblivious]

Surprised no one mentioned the architect yet.

Howard Roark - The Fountainhead

[The Fury]

Surprised no one mentioned the architect yet.

Howard Roark - The Fountainhead


I always thought he was an INTJ, very driven judgemental and without the INTP quirky sense of humour.

I think Fox Mulder from The X Files might be an INTP.

[Adymus]

I always thought he was an INTJ, very driven judgemental and without the INTP quirky sense of humour.

I think Fox Mulder from The X Files might be an INTP.
Agreed, The Architect had the Chilliness of an INTP, but he just came off as a pretty classic example of the INTJ perfectionist of design. Builds a model, if fails, builds a better model, that fails too, Builds an Epic model, and neo fucks up it.

[aracaris]

Uhhhm no, Dr. Cox is an INTJ, frustrated by The incompetence of a world that is not meeting up to his Ni model.

I think P fits him better than J. He could possibly be an ISTP (I'm not so sure whether he's a S or N).
He's very "gray"as far as his views on rules and regulations, having really no problem at all going against them when the situation would benefit from doing so.
Kelso seems like he's probably a J to me though, he was much more for the status quo, for following established regulations than Cox, whom tended to upset Kelso partially for that reason.

[Adymus]

I think P fits him better than J. He could possibly be an ISTP (I'm not so sure whether he's a S or N).
He's very "gray"as far as his views on rules and regulations, having really no problem at all going against them when the situation would benefit from doing so.
Kelso seems like he's probably a J to me though, he was much more for the status quo, for following established regulations than Cox, whom tended to upset Kelso partially for that reason.
That is because he is an N. INTJ's have an Ni model that is perceived to be far superior to the rules and regulations, there is no doubt that they would go against them.

You are confusing J with Si.

Which is why Kelso is indeed an ISTJ: Si-Te-Fi-Ne

[aracaris]

Well, that's how a lot of the descriptions of J vs. P that I've seen describe the two.

[Adymus]

Well, that's how a lot of the descriptions of J vs. P that I've seen describe the two.
That's because Meyers-briggs dichotomies are a flawed system that is neglecting a ton of other factors that are going into personality types. Look into Jungian Cognitive Processes sometime.

[Ghost1986]

Mitch Rapp in Vince Flyns books i think is a intp. the way he acts reminds me of my self. except the charecter has a nice body and more confidence and skills then i ever will. yet he is very organized and my be a intj. i sm not quite sure. that is the only one i can think of.

[intuitivet]

I heard somewhere than Tom from (500) Days of Summer is an INTP. I found that at the start he seemed very F, but later on he did feel more like an INTP.

[Adymus]

I heard somewhere than Tom from (500) Days of Summer is an INTP. I found that at the start he seemed very F, but later on he did feel more like an INTP.
I've never seen the movie... But I get the feeling that character is more of an INFJ, just because the actor that plays as him is an INFJ. And type casting is actually extremely common. Not that they are deliberately MBTI typing the actors, but that they just see how the actor naturally acts and sees it fit with the character concept. Much like Jim Parsons, Playing an INTP on the Big bang theory, and being an INTP in real life.

[intuitivet]

I've never seen the movie... But I get the feeling that character is more of an INFJ, just because the actor that plays as him is an INFJ. And type casting is actually extremely common. Not that they are deliberately MBTI typing the actors, but that they just see how the actor naturally acts and sees it fit with the character concept. Much like Jim Parsons, Playing an INTP on the Big bang theory, and being an INTP in real life.
He could be, I didn't watch the film in an analytical way (I was tired, I swear!)

[Kokoro]

I've always thought of juror #8(Henry Fonda) in "12 Angry Men"(1957) to be an INTP, and he was more or less the main character.

[alkeides]

Odysseus might be an INTx.

Heathcliff from Wuthering Heights.

Levin from Anna Karenina,

Sherlock Holmes.

Everyone except Sheldon and Penny from The Big Bang Theory.

Most of the characters from Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu (yes haruhi might seem extroverted but that's largely based on her behaviour to people she is close to, she behaves quite differently towards strangers).

Most tsundere characters.

In fact I think INTx main characters are rather common in Japanese media.

[Vegard Pompey]

Yang Wenli from Legend of Galactic Heroes certainly has INTP tendencies.

The titular character from Nói albínói seems IXTP.

[shoeless]

iiiiii don't think tom from 500 days of summer was intp.
i wanna say infp. a lot.

(although i, too, watched the movie when i was tired... and it was a couple months ago, so, i could be wrong.)

edit: now that i think about it, infj makes even more sense. hmm.

[Adymus]

Odysseus might be an INTx.

Heathcliff from Wuthering Heights.

Levin from Anna Karenina,

Sherlock Holmes.

Everyone except Sheldon and Penny from The Big Bang Theory.

Most of the characters from Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu (yes haruhi might seem extroverted but that's largely based on her behaviour to people she is close to, she behaves quite differently towards strangers).

Most tsundere characters.

In fact I think INTx main characters are rather common in Japanese media.
Dude, what!?

Sheldon is the only true INTP on that show. Sure the other characters are supposed to be INTP, but sheldon is the only one that pulls it off right.

[alkeides]

Sheldon is more of an INTJ IMO.

[Adymus]

No, Sheldon is just a really Alpha INTP. Everything about him is just straight Ti dominant, and he might be rigid but he is not directive (and no, that is not a contradiction.) Also, notice the way he seems like a J is from his Si use... INTJs don't have Si homie.

Seriously, I think that character must have been modeled by a person who actually knew an INTP, because while he is kind of exaggerated, it's still right on the money.

[citrusbreath95]

I haven't read a book with an INTP (or so I think. Though, it would be awesome... (maybe just for INTP's reading it though.) I mean can you imagine, if the author included what the character was thinking? It would be the biggest book in the history of the world!!! Readers would be left clueless as they went from seeing the character wonder what time it is, to thinking how time is in another dimension, to the possible number of dimesions, to time traveling there, etc, etc... it would be interesting though, especially to see how other characters treated he/she in the book:cool:

[alkeides]

I haven't read a book with an INTP (or so I think. Though, it would be awesome... (maybe just for INTP's reading it though.) I mean can you imagine, if the author included what the character was thinking? It would be the biggest book in the history of the world!!! Readers would be left clueless as they went from seeing the character wonder what time it is, to thinking how time is in another dimension, to the possible number of dimesions, to time traveling there, etc, etc... it would be interesting though, especially to see how other characters treated he/she in the book:cool:


Leopold Bloom from Ulysses comes to mind.

[Polaris]

The only way I think INTPs provide a mildly entertaining character is if they are played against a total opposite, as with the character Miles, in the movie "Sideways".

Well....I think he is INTPish. Adymus may beg to differ.....

[Dr. Zombie]

As posted in one of the other threads, I think Paul Atreides in Dune as INTP. He showed a lot of the typical traits, highly introspective thinking at all times, an innate intuition about the universe around him (to the extreme, in the end) and procrastination of important decisions. He spent the whole second book trying to delay the inevitable that he knew, for certain, would come to pass anyway. He also had a stubborn resistance to any form of external control placed upon him, though one might consider it ironic that he ultimately placed the control of prescience upon himself in so doing.

Grand Admiral Thrawn had some INTP traits (and some INTJ traits). On one hand, he was incredibly intelligent, with plans constructed and thought out to the most minute detail, tempered with an innate understanding of his enemies (through intuitive leaps prompted by the observation of art, of all things). Although one might be tempted to label him INTJ due to his ruthless strategies, they were constructed in a very different manner than most. I'd label him as an extremely well-developed, mature INTP. He also had a patience for slow-moving plans, something INTJs typically lack.

[ckm]

I think there's a thread about it, but Hamlet could be INTP.

[RedLoki]

I feel the same about Paul Atreides. I think he's an exceptional example of an INTP who conquers everything but falls to the INTP self imposing weaknesses.

[citrusbreath95]

Leopold Bloom from Ulysses comes to mind.


Ah, yes....

[Anthile]

Indecisive Man is most certainly INTP.

http://i39.tinypic.com/2ynf1iu.png

[Fleur]

I might have made a mistake, but - perhaps Winston Smith from 1984?

[Dogod]

I just read 1984, and I've been wondering what his type is also. He is defiantly introverted, and probably is a rational. He is probably P, having no plans at all as to how he is going to avoid the thought police, and only wanting to postpone it as long as possible. Don't think about what happened after the torture, though. Torture will have dramatic effects on anyone, so don't take his chess puzzles as an indicator.

[ashitaria]

I just read 1984, and I've been wondering what his type is also. He is defiantly introverted, and probably is a rational. He is probably P, having no plans at all as to how he is going to avoid the thought police, and only wanting to postpone it as long as possible. Don't think about what happened after the torture, though. Torture will have dramatic effects on anyone, so don't take his chess puzzles as an indicator.

I think he is an INTP, I just read 1984 and he seems to fit the criteria for an INTP.

[Alice?]

I think he is an INTP, I just read 1984 and he seems to fit the criteria for an INTP.

I was thinking about that when I was reading it as well, but I think he might actually be a jaded INFP.

[Words]

I saw alot of myself in Holden from The Catcher in the Rye. Whinch made me feel a little crappy since the whole class and the teacher discussed how screwd up he is. The thinking patterns and the way we handle forced commentary are similar,and we both think of our peers as superficial phonies.

I actually think he's an ENTP, granted I've only read the first 45 pages.

[Yossarian]

Howard Roark has got to be very close, as mentioned previously.


Yossarian? lol from Catch-22

[Trebuchet]

Howard Roark has got to be very close, as mentioned previously.


Yossarian? lol from Catch-22

Interesting idea about Yossarian. Since he seemed to be an analog of Joseph Heller, maybe that's what Heller is.

[Words]

Howard Roark has got to be very close, as mentioned previously.

No no, I vehemently disagree. Roark doesn't even have a single drop of the natural social clumsiness that is inferior Fe. He has strict beliefs that he envisions for his architecture life. He is not influenced by others but strives for the truth of what he himself values which is Fi.

He has a clear vision and his path is guided with internal emotional truth.

INTJ.

[The Frood]

Conor Broekhart from Airman by Eoin Colfer

[JoeJoe]

Conor Broekhart from Airman by Eoin Colfer

He is more of a machine maker, than a system creator, therefore I would type him as ENTP.

[Jah]

Anybody seen Kafka (the movie)?

[Puffy]

I havn't read the book but I thought Andy Dufresne from the Shawshank Redemption may have been an INTP. Anyone else agree?

[The Frood]

He is more of a machine maker, than a system creator, therefore I would type him as ENTP.
Good point.

[PapyrusAirplanes]

Sorry for jumping in here in the middle of your debate...

Really??? That would be awesome. I loved the Ender's Game series. I'm not knowledgeable about MBTI enough to know who's what type exactly, but I always thought I identified more with Bean (if you've read Ender's Shadow) than Ender.

I think Ender's an INTJ. He has some serious dedication.

[JoeJoe]

I think Ender's an INTJ. He has some serious dedication.

In the name of Adymus!! dedication =/= Judging!!

Amidoinitrite?

[Anthile]

Ender is INFJ.

lern2jung, guise

[Words]

Ender is INFJ.

Why?


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I say ENFJ.

Given:

Introverted Intuition

Problems:

1. Hierarchy
2. External Judging Function

Solution:

I. Fe > Ni

a. People > Ambitions. He is highly conscious of the emotional and moral results of his actions and prioritizes it over personal agenda. (F>N)

b. More natural leadership traits. (E>I)

And thus, Fe > Ni

-----

It doesn't seem to qualify as sufficient argument but I lack knowledge about the character and the book. I will share these points nonetheless.

[XXXX]

I havn't read the book but I thought Andy Dufresne from the Shawshank Redemption may have been an INTP. Anyone else agree?

Been a while since I watched it, but I don't see any Ne at all ... I would say INTJ (Ni-Te), with his focus on fulfilling his visions and goals with utmost efficiency.

[terraxceles]

Alvy Singer from Annie Hall - an INTP? I would think so.

[Auburn]

I have strong belief that Neo from The Matrix was an INTP. Not only did he share the behavior, but at the end he gained the ability to see through the system, he saw the raw code. As "The One", he was detached from everyone else in The Matrix, no one could ever be as of much importance as Neo was. He had to make the decision between logos and pathos and his only determining factor in submitting to pathos was that he loved Trinity.

The previous five Neos, according to the Architect's speech, had also chosen pathos. He even says that The One was specificity designed to have a sense of attachment to the human race. So I disagree that Neo chose pathos only because of Trinity, I think he would have chosen it anyhow.

I don't think Neo is an INTP either, though I don't really have a strong opinion of what he is.

The Architect had the Chilliness of an INTP, but he just came off as a pretty classic example of the INTJ perfectionist of design.

Yesh, I thought INTP at first but I think you're right. INTPs are typically dispassionate creatures unless stimulated by the novelty of something - in which case they may become passionate to the point of obsession. But that's just it, INTPs rarely have much purpose aside from that..

They don't have a strong agenda to push, they don't have a firm enough vision to mastermind something like that. If anything they have more fun entertaining ideas of how to rule the world, but actually ruling it would likely be a pain for them. They might do it just to see if they can, and then go do something else. ;p

[dark]

The little boy in "The Giver" - main character basically.

Bean in "Ender's Shadow" [plus the others of course]

Ender in "Ender's Game" [plus every book except Ender's Exile, think he became ENTP here, then fell back to INTP]

[Anchorite]

Alvy Singer from Annie Hall - an INTP? I would think so.

^And I would completely agree. Honestly, I think most Woody Allen characters are. Or maybe I just relate to them due to a shared partial insanity:confused:

[ElderToadstool]

Originally Posted by alkeides
Leopold Bloom from Ulysses comes to mind.
Maybe, but I always thought of Bloom as more sensing than intuitive, and even as more feeling than thinking. Stephen Dedalus, on the other hand, is INTP to the core.

Also, pretty much everyone in H.P. Lovecraft. Both heroes (Walter Gillman, Randolph Carter) and villains (Wilbur Whately) display classic INTP traits, although perhaps some lean a bit towards INTJ.

Siddhartha from Herman Hesse's novel of the same name is definitely INTP. Endlessly inquisitive, introspective, free-spirited and brilliant, his quest for truth and meaning knows no bounds.

[EyeSeeCold]

The little boy in "The Giver" - main character basically.

+1

[Dormouse]

T.O.E. (The One Electronic) from : http://www.rice-boy.com/

He may or may not be INTP. Definetly an INT of some type, though. If he has been mentioned before, I apologize.

[Gather_Wanderer]

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this one but the nobel prize-winning professor/theorist (played by John Cleese) in the movie "The Day The Earth Stood Still" seemed to be INTPish. The guy who lived out in the woods by himself that Jennifer Connelly and Keanu Reeves went to visit? I would like to think so. Wasn't a main character though.

[Thaklaar]

T.O.E. (The One Electronic) from : http://www.rice-boy.com/

He may or may not be INTP. Definetly an INT of some type, though. If he has been mentioned before, I apologize.
I don't know. I get more of an INFP vibe off of T-O-E. (Actually, I get more of a "This dude is f-ing badass" vibe offa him, but that's something else entirely.) It's hard to say when he tends to speak in terse, cryptic phrases and has no face to speak of.

[Dormouse]

Yeah, I suppose there isn't really a set type for total badass. Though I really can't see him as an F, he's far too composed most of the time and extremely logical throughout the series. Not that he doesn't have depth and values and such, they just seem to me to take a backseat to rationality.

Still, I can see either option making sense. And INTJ, theoretically, though that doesn't ring true at all from my perspective.

[DesertSmeagle]

What about brian from family guy. i was just watchin that. He seems pretty intp. maybe Intj. I dont know.

[Words]

What about brian from family guy. i was just watchin that. He seems pretty intp. maybe Intj. I dont know.

could be INFP with heightened Te.

[DarkGreen]

Holden Caulfield. I don't like the book mainly because he likes to dither, just like me.

[EyeSeeCold]

Not a main character, but the main character's Math teacher in Sherman Alexie's The Absolutely True Diary of a Part-Time Indian is likely to be an INTP.

could be INFP with heightened Te.
He went to college and dropped out...He had a book he worked on for years...He never shows evidence any deep emotional connections(except rarely with Peter, and a couple times with Stewie)..or smiles for that matter. Also whenever he decides to speak it's at critical times when there is a severe lack of logic. I say INTP.

[Anthile]

I just don't think INTPs make good main characters.

"Quick, INTP Man, the evil overlord Count Wicked wants to conquer the universe! We have to stop him!"
"Define: evil."

[hours later]

"So you see that banana split is just a label that we attach to things and that something can be a banana split even without a scoop of chocolate ice cream. Anyway, if you want to stop that Count guy, you have a gun and he can be killed with a gun - a solution obviously exists."

[Thaklaar]

Yeah, I suppose there isn't really a set type for total badass. Though I really can't see him as an F, he's far too composed most of the time and extremely logical throughout the series. Not that he doesn't have depth and values and such, they just seem to me to take a backseat to rationality.

Still, I can see either option making sense. And INTJ, theoretically, though that doesn't ring true at all from my perspective.
I don't know. Looking back at the series I don't see a lot of evidence of his being all that rational. Really, apart from choosing Rice Boy, he spends most of the time just reacting to events. Besides, can you really see one of us trudging through the millenia on that quest? I don't know about you, but it would only take me a century before I started nominating root vegetables "just to see what would happen".

[Taniwha]

Hmm... :confused:

I can think of a few;

Harry Mason - Silent Hill (Original released game).
Peter Parker/Spider-man.
Cobb - Inception.
Tintin.
Bruce Banner/Hulk.
Violet Baudelaire - A Series Of Unfortunate Events (The book series).

[indigofireflies]

Hmm... :confused:
.
Cobb - Inception.

Violet Baudelaire - A Series Of Unfortunate Events (The book series).

Thank you! D: I knew Violet was INTP. Along with Cobb.

Prof. McGonagall from HP.
I'm surprised no one has listed him yet. *gestures to avatar* When I think of INTP, I always think of House, first and foremost.
Robert Langdon [from Dan Brown's books] could possibly be INTP, or INFP.

[CoryJames]

House is most certainly not an INTP sorry children. He is way too extroverted. An INTP would never be able to shout the things he does about his patients, staff, or Cudi from banisters and in crowded offices. He is WAY too aggressive to be INTP, and this is coming from possibly the most aggressive INTP currently in the forum.

edit:with the exception of Lors and Melkor of course, whose epic battle rages on, shaming any of my feats instantly

[Jesse]

I think House could be an INTP. Definitely Introverted, very intuitive, he values logic above all else. I can talk easily about things I know a lot about so I don't think it's unheard of for an INTP to be outspoken. Because his on TV they have to add a bit aggressiveness to his character but his basis is INTP.

[CoryJames]

I see where you are coming from. I suppose also, assuming the test is correct about my type, that INTPs may simply...act...over their normal tendencies to fulfill a role, as I often had to do as a football captain those seasons or group/discussion leader, as much as I would have preferred to mind my own business.

It is just difficult to tell; whereas I KNEW I was acting, he is a non INTP, acting like a possible INTP, possibly acting like a non INTP out of necessity. Very convoluted.

[JoeJoe]

On 4chan House is always typed as INTJ. Just putting it here, not claiming any truth on it, since I haven't seen one episode as of yet.

[CoryJames]

Yea well on 4chan they think I am some sort of part man/part wolf flesh eating sex zombie. Doesn't mean I am, does it? Out of curiosity, what's 4chan?

[MacGuffin]

House is ENTP suckers.

[dark]

^Agreed House is ENTP, we require others to bounce ideas off of most time, and this is very clearly defined in specific episodes.

[EyeSeeCold]

House is most certainly not an INTP sorry children. He is way too extroverted.

Sociability != extroverted

House is not ENTP, nor INTP. He's INTJ.

[MacGuffin]

Sociability != extroverted

House is not ENTP, nor INTP. He's INTJ.

Wrong. House is chaos.

[Reluctantly]

I see house as either a bastard entp or enfj. More inclined to enfj given how he thrives of Se. Entps don't really enjoy Se that much. But whatever noobs. And FYI house is annoying.

[Bird]

Not ENFJ.


Sorry doll.

[Reluctantly]

:qq:

Boooo. :( Can't I have my way for once?

*engraves swastika in skin*

It's your fault I'm this way! Curse you all. I will rule this world with an iron fist!

[CoryJames]

Yo guys. It's not lupus.

[kinetickyle]

I can talk easily about things I know a lot about so I don't think it's unheard of for an INTP to be outspoken.

I completely agree with Jesse on this point. Being introverted doesn't make someone a shrinking violet. I've taken the MBTI multiple times and never come out as anything but INTP and I have a reputation for being very blunt and outspoken in person (I think a fraction more about what I'm saying when I write). There's no doubt that House is an introvert because of the way he keeps people at a distance.

And I agree with Cory - It's never lupus.

[Aramea]

Gonna go with Neo, Max Cohen from Pi and Ed Norton's character from Fight Club on this one. Neo was late to work, messy and isolated. Constantly seeking knowledge of the Matrix.

Max was brilliant and tormented by seeking patterns in the stock market and had an apartment full of computer shit with bugs crawling on it. The Norton side of Tyler Durden may be a J with the spiffy condo, but his downward fall that put him at the decomposing Paper Street house firing golf balls into the paper plant and seeking answers to profound existential questions screams the type of nihilism I see in INTPs ...

Those three characters are not your average fare in the movie world and made those movies interesting. Oh, and what about Jeff Goldblum's character in The Fly? Has elements of both P/J ...

[aaaw]

Bernard Marx from Brave New World.

Winston from 1984.

[Aramea]

Bernard Marx from Brave New World.

Winston from 1984.

Hmmm ... Been awhile since I read that. It's hard to say since the 'civilized' characters in that book were genetically engineered and that tended to fuck with my mind a bit (the point, I assume?). They didn't act naturally. Was Huxley an INTP? I would almost think he'd have to be to come up with that book ...

[aaaw]

Hmmm ... Been awhile since I read that. It's hard to say since the 'civilized' characters in that book were genetically engineered and that tended to fuck with my mind a bit (the point, I assume?). They didn't act naturally. Was Huxley an INTP? I would almost think he'd have to be to come up with that book ...


Yes, Huxley is often given as an example of an INTP.

It's been a while since I’ve read it too. I could be wrong about him (Bernard Marx) being an INTP. Some aspects fit, others may not. Some examples: He never really fitted in; he did not submit to societal norms (although he longed to); he needed his alone time; he was socially inept; he did not like the sensory stimuli so enjoyed in the society – soma, feelies, casual sex etc; and he often found himself thinking about things of a fairly philosophical nature (although not necessarily in a very sophisticated way - but this may be because of the society).

One thing you could use to argue that he is not INTP is that when he became popular in the second half of the book, he revelled in his new found status and began to enjoy many aspects of society he had previously shunned. At this stage he did not really prove himself to be a very complex thinker. So maybe he was not INTP after all.

[AureliaSeverina]

Erast Fandorin (http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=erast+fandorin)

I get a sense of INTP-ness from him, although he might be an INTJ. I'm rubbish at spotting my own species. LOL, most people won't know him anyway ....

[ℜεмїηїs¢εη¢ε]

dark

I'm surprised you didn't mention L Lawliet.

[addictedartist]

Ikari Shinji?

[scorpiomover]

Max Cohen from Pi

Max was brilliant and tormented by seeking patterns in the stock market and had an apartment full of computer shit with bugs crawling on it.I'd agree with that. I remember Pi. You don't have to live in a shitehole to be an INTP. But Max was definitely obsessed with figuring out what the number means, for no purpose for himself, even though everyone else was convinced the number was highly valuable.

A lot of Asimov's characters seem very INTP-ish to me. R. Daneel Olivaw and Hari Seldon.

[brandmaus]

Ariel Manto - main character in 'The End of Mr. Y' by Scarlett Thomas (book). I think.
Someone off the main characters in 'Season of the Witch' by Natasha Moster (book). Maybe the writer herself?

[Wolf18]

I think I've said some of these before, but I'm not sure:

Bean Delphiki – Ender's Shadow
Petra Arkanian – Ender's Game and Ender's Shadow
Danny – The Chosen (maybe more of a supporting character, but very important)
Sherlock Holmes – Sherlock (BBC)
Paul Atreides – Dune (yes, I concede that he is not ENTP)

SW