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brain enclosed in flesh
20th-May-2009, 04:52 PM
Interesting and potentially helpful?

http://greenlightwiki.com/lenore-exegesis/How_to_Experience_Different_Function-Attitudes

Concojones
20th-May-2009, 06:17 PM
gives a good impression of what Ni, Te, ... functions actually are.

For instance, I never dug the traditional Ni explanation. Here's one in plain English.

Red Mage
20th-May-2009, 06:23 PM
I saw this on another forum the other day. I basically said what Concojones said. It helps you understand what some of the functions are. More Ni and Si for me.

brain enclosed in flesh
20th-May-2009, 09:07 PM
Reading through these exercises makes me even more confused. If they are on point, I would say the strength of my different functions goes like this-

Fi/Ti
Ne/Si
Ni/Se
Fe
Te

Good Lord, I'm a jumble. No wonder I have such a hard time figuring anything out.

mathy
20th-May-2009, 10:56 PM
That's really interesting, thanks for posting it.

I had no idea my Si and Se were so strong, they feel oddly natural for me (although I know I couldn't keep them up for very long periods of time). I knew Ne and Ti were going to be at the top, and this confirms it (they are extremely natural for me). Ni I also expect to be relatively high (I've done the thing in the exercise numerous times). And dang... apparently I was overestimating my Fi, because I don't naturally do that much at all (except on myself, hardly ever for others). I'd be willing to say my Fe is somewhat higher than my Fi now that I understand the difference. So maybe I am more like a typical XNTP (whatever that is) after all?

Brain, I think you're XNXP. (Or at least that would come closest to describing it).

brain enclosed in flesh
21st-May-2009, 03:53 PM
If pressed to categorize myself, I'd say I'm an INFP. Or I was an INFP until about a year ago, then I blocked my Fi because I no longer trusted it- I was pretty confident it led me down a path of serious pain. I strengthened my Ti, so now I'm an INxP. And my Ti and Fi like to fight, so I need to work on them cooperating so I can accomplish something.

Not like it matters. I am a full-fledged introvert, that's why I'd for sure put the 'I'.

But I no longer care. I am what I am. So be it.

sagewolf
23rd-May-2009, 02:51 AM
First thought: Oh god not another wiki. TVTropes has already ruined my life! (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/DarthWiki/TVTropesRuinedYourLife)

Second thought: Those are actually very good descriptions of the functions, especially the ones which aren't generally all that well understood. The first exercise for Fi seems suspiciously similar to the second one for Fe, though, and I think it's better-suited to Fe. The second one, I think, seems more accurate, but I'm not an expert, so... Best thing about it, though, is that they're exercises, so this will be a useful page for helping to develop those functions, which is what I'm really interested in. (Although I'll get a book on the subject when I go to America for the summer...)

retorick
24th-May-2009, 10:20 PM
Interesting link. I got to have a look at the individual function pages before the server began responding with HTTP 500.

Here's a page that gives much briefer descriptions of each of the eight functions: http://www.geocities.com/lifexplore/jft.htm. I've been trying, for reasons I myself don't entirely get, to determine my type--or, rather, to validate the INTP result I generally get. I like the type, but I'm not infrequently suspicious that I'm more likely S than N--in spite of what the test says.

I guess I associate "intuitive" with "women's intuition" and have the impression of someone knowing something without being able to provide a reason for it--almost like a premonition, perhaps. It's the sort of thing that seems to border on the paranormal, and that's not the sort of thing I identify with.

echoplex
25th-May-2009, 12:27 AM
hmmm, according to this, I may use Ni even more than Ne, or at least as much. I do often take in information by trying to understand what the intended message behind something is.

Red Mage
25th-May-2009, 12:34 AM
hmmm, according to this, I may use Ni even more than Ne, or at least as much. I do often take in information by trying to understand what the intended message behind something is.

The Ni excersize hit home with me too, but cheese pointed out to me that it's actually more of an excersize of Ti. If true, that would explain why we would identify strongly with it. I agree that it doesn't sound like Ni at all. On second thought, these excersizes probably aren't the most accurate depiction of the functions.

echoplex
25th-May-2009, 01:11 AM
The Ni excersize hit home with me too, but cheese pointed out to me that it's actually more of an excersize of Ti. If true, that would explain why we would identify strongly with it. I agree that it doesn't sound like Ni at all. On second thought, these excersizes probably aren't the most accurate depiction of the functions.
Yeah, it's not the best example of Ni, and it could easily be seen as more Ti than Ni.

Other times introverted iNtuiting operates when we conceptualize and get a sense of a whole plan, pattern, theory, or explanation.

Using introverted Thinking is like having an internal sense of the essential qualities of something, noticing the fine distinctions that make it what it is and then naming it

I think the Ni exercises could apply to either of the above descriptions. But a better one would've been one where you predict the future with little information.