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BirdValiant
5th-May-2011, 02:02 AM
It has taken over my life!
boondockbabe
5th-May-2011, 02:12 AM
What is it?
ProxyAmenRa
5th-May-2011, 02:18 AM
errr what?
boondockbabe
5th-May-2011, 02:28 AM
errr what?
Are you saying what is it too or are you talking to me?
If you are talking to me please fill me in.
boondockbabe
5th-May-2011, 02:29 AM
is this what we are talking about:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Little_Pony:_Friendship_Is_Magic
Mello
5th-May-2011, 02:36 AM
Friendship is Magnets.
YouTube - Friendship is Magnets
Iximi
5th-May-2011, 02:38 AM
Thank god I wasn't high just now.
ProxyAmenRa
5th-May-2011, 02:49 AM
Jesus Christ!
boondockbabe
5th-May-2011, 02:55 AM
I cant stop laughing. That is dusturbing on sooo many levels.
I kinda like it.:smoker:
Cogwulf
5th-May-2011, 09:57 AM
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTd9AkOoYIQNGHGfBDzVBJguqFf-sEQ4jrg6Zz47REAOoApvBJsPg&t=1
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee287/LastUnicornStudios/rainbowderp-1.jpg
Roran
12th-July-2011, 03:12 AM
What the hell did I just watch?
GYX_Kid
12th-July-2011, 03:24 AM
Gotta love (at least the concept of) fast-paced random reference shit collage with abrasive explosions. Like the Dillinger Escape Plan of comedy.
i like the youtuber's username too
Roran
12th-July-2011, 03:34 AM
I do love it but it feels weird...
Dr. Freeman
12th-July-2011, 04:02 AM
!?!?!?!?!
lolz?
Mello
12th-July-2011, 04:21 AM
They're called youtube poop. And most of the best channels were banned.
YouTube - ‪Youtube Poop Arthur s Massive Throbbing Hit‬‏
Smooch
12th-July-2011, 05:00 AM
Thanks for posting that. It was internoying.
Animekitty
12th-July-2011, 05:16 AM
YouTube - ‪PonyCraft 2‬‏
GYX_Kid
12th-July-2011, 05:16 AM
that Arthur one was good, in a well-organized though not chaotic/random way
YouTube - ‪YouTube Poop: Toys Gone Wild‬‏
i used to like parts of this, now it's just like "yeah, references"
Although...4:18
Roran
13th-July-2011, 02:28 AM
Thank god I wasn't high just now.
Would that have been bad?
Hotrootsoup
22nd-August-2011, 12:28 PM
I was just about to create this thread when I saw it here =)
I'm a big Friendship is Magic fan, I have all the episodes in 720p =D
*Bro-hoof*
Dimensional Transition
22nd-August-2011, 02:08 PM
Would that have been bad?
I think I'd find it hilarious if I was high when watching that.
Puffy
23rd-August-2011, 01:51 PM
Lily - the horror, the horror - YouTube
Melllvar
28th-August-2011, 08:38 PM
http://robotmantheblog.com/2006/10/25/so-i-guess-i-got-kicked-off-another-my-little-pony-forum/
jameslikespie
1st-September-2011, 06:39 PM
I watched the first episode. I wanted to vomit.
drumersrule5
1st-June-2012, 12:36 AM
I was just about to create this thread when I saw it here =)
I'm a big Friendship is Magic fan, I have all the episodes in 720p =D
*Bro-hoof*
same
lungs
1st-June-2012, 12:53 AM
Jesus Christ!
yup
nil
6th-June-2012, 10:01 PM
It's pretty cool.
Fuck tha haters.
Cogwulf
7th-June-2012, 10:40 PM
It's pretty cool.
Fuck tha haters.
I just hate the people shoving it in my face in every single corner of the internet.
Triginta Septem
22nd-July-2012, 07:22 AM
//Because there's a 50% chance you only came here to hate and rant on the show and it's audience, I'm simply going to ask you to please not do that. We know you hate us because we enjoy something you don't; you need not tell us this over and over... Thank you!
Anyhoof, back in February or March this year, I came across a delightful new cartoon called My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. In the show, Twilight Sparkle (as far as I can tell, an INTP) is a very introverted bookworm with no friends at all. After being sent away to Ponyville by Princess Celestia, she ends up accidentally making 5 great friends in her first day. As the series progresses, Twilight Sparkle continues to "study the magic of friendship"... and she slowly becomes less and less introverted because of them.
I've discovered that from watching the show, in addition to just plain loving it (which really supprised me), I was able to connect to Twilight very well, and as she had developed her Fe and other low INTP traits, I did too (especially with other fans of the show). I was wondering if any of you have had similar expiriences with MLP? Please do share them! :)
-TrigintaSeptem
Mello
22nd-July-2012, 08:01 AM
Friendship is the furthest thing from magic.
Friendship is hell.
It's a journey that proves your own banal stupidity for putting trust in others. You'll find that in times you need them the most they turn into ghosts. They don't accept you. They all talk behind your back. You'll find yourself more alone than ever before in a group of friends. You're a child walking among tall shadows.
Friendship is swallowing razor blade after razor blade.
Friendship is crawling through broken glass.
Friendship is the galvanizing razor wire around your neck. It tightens with time. Your kroovy is the life force of friendship.
Friendship is magnets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNqsHbKgtwM
Triginta Septem
22nd-July-2012, 08:05 AM
^^^ Has never seen show, much?
catatonic
22nd-July-2012, 03:45 PM
Maybe love is blind, but friendship is clairvoyant.
http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/20500000/Fluttershy-my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-20524085-570-402.jpg
ObliviousGenius
22nd-July-2012, 06:13 PM
//Because there's a 50% chance you only came here to hate and rant on the show and it's audience, I'm simply going to ask you to please not do that. We know you hate us because we enjoy something you don't; you need not tell us this over and over... Thank you!
-TrigintaSeptem
Why should I care that you like a show that I don't?
Why should you care that I don't like a show that you like?
I don't see the correlation between Fe and... MLP. Any INTP can have friends. Just because one is introverted doesn't mean one is incapable of making friends or being social for that matter.
I'm not exactly sure what the point you're trying to make is. I don't like to use the term "fanboy" a lot but this is knocking on the door.
BTW, are you an INTP? Welcome to the forum (INTP or not).
Teohrn
22nd-July-2012, 07:24 PM
"Studies the magic of friendship" isn't very INTP. Try 'studies the dynamics of friendship' or something like that. There is just nothing that is magical about INTPs or the way they see the world around them.
I can relate to her finding friendship by accident, I have little understanding of why and how I became friends with my friends, it just seems to happen.
I disagree with your claim that she must have become less introverted. It just seems like she never really had friends before but that her new environment forced her to open herself up. If she was introverted before, she probably still is, you don't become less introvert by having friends, the difference is that she isn't a recluse anymore.
That claim comes from the erroneous assumption that introverts are friendless creatures that never go out and that they can't enjoy it. They do have friends and they do go out, although they do it less, and they do enjoy it, although it doesn't give them energy.
Triginta Septem
22nd-July-2012, 08:20 PM
Oh, haha, my post got moved here? The point was, as an INTP, the show and it's community has helped me to be more... friendly, I guess? I was not making assumptions like that, and If you watched the show, you would recognize that that was just my very short summary of the story, and in Twilights case, she really didn't have friends at all, save her brother... (Was my post really that confusing? ^^)
Here, I am having trouble explaining what my point was, for whatever reason... (thats strange for me...) So, here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4By8YHOnILo
That pretty much explains the story... This was directed at other people who have seen it, though... None of you seem to understand, because you haven't seen it... (i assume)
Lot
22nd-July-2012, 09:04 PM
I'm going to pop in for just a sec. Twilight Sparkle seems more like an introverted SJ. She's very duty minded, and follow the rules. Also friendship is magic.:kilroy:
Cogwulf
22nd-July-2012, 09:40 PM
The point was, as an INTP, the show and it's community has helped me to be more... friendly, I guess?
I recently read a post on another forum by someone claiming to be a professional counsellor, he said he sees a lot of mid to late teenagers, as well as some older people, who are claiming to watch the show and are learning these things from it. He said he believes that it is very good that they are learning about these things, but he also finds it very distressing that they need to learn these things, as they are lessons that should be learnt by everyone -regardless of personality- as children.
He also said that most of the people watching the program are tending to form groups more and more exclusively with other people who watch it, and are hence their social skills are actually suffering because they're using it as a means to avoid interacting with the outside world.
However this isn't necessarily true of all people who watch it, as it's only from this persons experience with people who had serious enough issues to need a counsellor.
Personally I don't have a problem with it or with people who watch it, except for what is probably a minority who have become overly obsessed with it and who are basing their entire online personality around it. It's getting to the point where to me it seems as though everyone on the internet who is posting mlp related content is merging into a single person in my minds eye; a single person repeating the same thing over and over. It's just like that angry guy who posts on technology discussions everywhere about how great his mac is and why PCs are so terrible.
I'm being completely serious about this. My issue with MLP is not the content itself, it is that the online presence is the same things over and over and over again. I can only take so much.
Moocow
22nd-July-2012, 10:48 PM
I have no problem acting fair and impartial about the show, but I can't deny having contempt for it. I watched the clips, I've heard the arguments for it, but it still makes me cringe.
Can anyone convince me that the fascination with MLP FML among males around their 20s or later is not just some kind of bizarre regression to infancy?
Triginta Septem
22nd-July-2012, 11:30 PM
He also said that most of the people watching the program are tending to form groups more and more exclusively with other people who watch it, and are hence their social skills are actually suffering because they're using it as a means to avoid interacting with the outside world.
However this isn't necessarily true of all people who watch it, as it's only from this persons experience with people who had serious enough issues to need a counsellor.
Interesting... Really for me, I've been able to talk about the show, really, even with anti-bronies, and I like to think, at least, that is has also helped outside the show...
As for the groups of us like the, ugh... "Cloppers"... and such, as well as the one's trying to shove it down everyone's throats... yeah... They really embarrass me... But you have to remember, every fandom or subculture has them, you just only hear of the brony ones because that's what everyone else expects from us... There are really a very small amount of the "cloppers" and all them, and the annoying new bronies trying to "convert" the world will cool down soon (I know because I was one... I was also a weeaboo once... ugh..)
And I'm almost positive Twilight is an INTP. I've found several others who agree, as well.
Teohrn
22nd-July-2012, 11:48 PM
Oh, haha, my post got moved here? The point was, as an INTP, the show and it's community has helped me to be more... friendly, I guess? I was not making assumptions like that, and If you watched the show, you would recognize that that was just my very short summary of the story, and in Twilights case, she really didn't have friends at all, save her brother... (Was my post really that confusing? ^^)
Here, I am having trouble explaining what my point was, for whatever reason... (thats strange for me...) So, here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4By8YHOnILo
That pretty much explains the story... This was directed at other people who have seen it, though... None of you seem to understand, because you haven't seen it... (i assume)
Do you really need a cartoon intended for little girls to learn you lessons of how to behave in real life? And you don't seem to be so sure of whether the show and the community helped you that much either.
Does it really help you in any way? Are the lessons of the cartoon unique and only this show can learn you? Should a grown up person really be watching stuff like this for lessons?
And I understood you, I don't think you understand me, however. I just thought I would correct you on the "less introvert" thing. An unnecessary correction, maybe.
Triginta Septem
22nd-July-2012, 11:58 PM
Eh, i don't know... I can't really try to explain what I mean to someone who doesn't feel the same way (Id est, someone who has never watched the show). It's certainly a good show, though! (And I kinda messed up this thread, getting mine moved here... They did have very different purposes... -_-)
Teohrn
23rd-July-2012, 12:11 AM
Eh, i don't know... I can't really try to explain what I mean to someone who doesn't feel the same way (Id est, someone who has never watched the show). It's certainly a good show, though! (And I kinda messed up this thread, getting mine moved here... They did have very different purposes... -_-)
You could try explaining why though. I don't really see why there should be any barrier of understanding between those who have watched it (and 'felt the same way') and someone who hasn't.
I have no ill intentions by saying this; your reasoning (or lack thereof) seems to be quite commonplace where there is no logic, only a wish, a want to believe. Some of the most usual arguments of those that have been "enlightened" by whether it be some religion, ideology, movement or whatever it may be is that the others don't understand and can't understand due to the false idea that if anyone else hasn't been enlightened, it's because they haven't "seen the light". You seem to be more uncertain than I am on this matter.
Moocow
23rd-July-2012, 12:14 AM
You could try explaining why though. I don't really see why there should be any barrier of understanding between those who have watched it (and 'felt the same way') and someone who hasn't.
I have no ill intentions by saying this; your reasoning (or lack thereof) seems to be quite commonplace where there is no logic, only a wish, a want to believe. Some of the most usual arguments of those that have been "enlightened" by whether it be some religion, ideology, movement or whatever it may be is that the others don't understand and can't understand due to the false idea that if anyone else hasn't been enlightened, it's because they haven't "seen the light". You seem to be more uncertain than I am on this matter.
I think you might be taking it a step too far here in bringing it to the level of religiosity.
ObliviousGenius
23rd-July-2012, 12:50 AM
Eh, i don't know... I can't really try to explain what I mean to someone who doesn't feel the same way (Id est, someone who has never watched the show). It's certainly a good show, though! (And I kinda messed up this thread, getting mine moved here... They did have very different purposes... -_-)
Just because we haven't seen the show doesn't mean we don't understand. You are talking to open minds you know. My thing is the message is good "people need friends, etc." but the concept (ponies, female audience, pink, hairstyles etc.) is a major turnoff. That seems obvious though. But hey, do what you do bro.
Fukyo
23rd-July-2012, 12:56 AM
I gave it a shot and watched one episode. It just seems like an average cartoon with possibly above average animation. I don't think it sucks necessarily, but it seemed stereotypical, with cookie cutter characters and utterly unengaging. The bronies can be really annoying though, especially those that can only communicate in pony memes. -_-
nil
23rd-July-2012, 02:53 AM
Twilight Sparkle (as far as I can tell, an INTP)
Twilight Sparkle is most certainly not an INTP. After just a few minutes of the first episode I strongly suspected she was an IxTJ (Intuitive most likely given her propensity in magic), and further episodes only served to prove this more and more. How could you ever think she is a perceiving type after Lesson Zero?
Friendship is the furthest thing from magic.
Friendship is hell.
It's a journey that proves your own banal stupidity for putting trust in others. You'll find that in times you need them the most they turn into ghosts. They don't accept you. They all talk behind your back. You'll find yourself more alone than ever before in a group of friends. You're a child walking among tall shadows.
Friendship is swallowing razor blade after razor blade.
Friendship is crawling through broken glass.
Friendship is the galvanizing razor wire around your neck. It tightens with time. Your kroovy is the life force of friendship.
Friendship is magnets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNqsHbKgtwM
:|
Alright then, but it all depends on how you look at it. Really, it seems that I was destined to have a perpetually pessimistic and dark personality, though there still appears to be some light shining through. Good and bad in everything, I suppose.
I'm going to pop in for just a sec. Twilight Sparkle seems more like an introverted SJ. She's very duty minded, and follow the rules. Also friendship is magic.:kilroy:
NJ > SJ, but SJ is also a possibility.
But really, are people still relying on such stereotypes as "duty-minded" and "follows the rules" to indicate an SJ? No wonder why I stopped bothering with MBTI.
Moocow
23rd-July-2012, 03:00 AM
But really, are people still relying on such stereotypes as "duty-minded" and "follows the rules" to indicate an SJ? No wonder why I stopped bothering with MBTI.
Is it any wonder you're pessimistic? That's a rather grandiose expectation you're lamenting.
nil
23rd-July-2012, 03:05 AM
Is it any wonder you're pessimistic? That's a rather grandiose expectation you're lamenting.
Hehe, very true indeed. Perhaps my expectations are quite a bit higher than they should be.
Teohrn
23rd-July-2012, 03:16 AM
I think you might be taking it a step too far here in bringing it to the level of religiosity.
It's possible I do. However, they share some traits: a sense of belonging with a community and a sense of guidance. The difference is that these traits are much more minuscule on one side.
Anyway, my point was that people that take certain choices and become devout parts of communities are prone to reason that they take those choices because it helps them, etc., f.e. you point out to a "bizarre regression to infancy" among adults, which I agree on. In line with that, people often take weird religious and spiritual choices, like becoming a member of the church of Scientology, and when they are attacked for it they reason that it helps them.
But why does exactly this cartoon help them? Is it unique in its learnings? Does it have powerful insights that only they have? I don't believe so. You can pretty much find those same morals, learnings, whatnot, etc. everywhere, not in cartoons only; everywhere. It is oriented towards children, however. This is also where the "bizarre regression to infancy" comes in. It probably has more to do with just that than that it helps them develop personally. (Actually, the lessons taught seem to be rather shallow, naive and idealistic; if you're above a certain age. I doubt there are lessons to be taught for a grown up mind.) It is the defense itself, not wanting to admit the real cause behind it, that it's flawed, therefore reasoning that it helps. That is what I want to get to.
It's not the same, but it's similar. I only think that when groupings are criticized, they often come with very similar arguments, that it helps them, that "you" can't understand, rather than admitting that it's flawed and that the lack of an understanding of "why?" from the outsiders is sensible.
Moocow
23rd-July-2012, 03:21 AM
Right, I know what you mean. In that case though I doubt most people really have an answer you or I may be looking for. I've yet to see a really distinct and believable one so I have to come up with my own explanation, which is of course going to be rejected outright for being offensive.
Triginta Septem
23rd-July-2012, 03:22 AM
Twilight Sparkle is most certainly not an INTP. After just a few minutes of the first episode I strongly suspected she was an IxTJ (Intuitive most likely given her propensity in magic), and further episodes only served to prove this more and more. How could you ever think she is a perceiving type after Lesson Zero?
Well, first of all, Lesson Zero was out-of-character (and under extreme stress, that is actually expected to happen I believe), but I see your point. I still believe she is an INTP, however. Look here: "INTPs ... see everything in terms of how it could be improved" Very twilight. She always looks for problems to solve. They "live primarily inside their own minds, having the ability to analyze difficult problems, identify patterns, and come up with logical explanations." Twi try's to find a logical explanation for everything (Pinkie Pie...). "They ... live much of their lives within their own heads, and may not place as much importance or value on the external world." Before meeting the other 5, this would describe her whole existence perfectly... "The INTP is likely to be very shy when it comes to meeting new people. On the other hand, the INTP is very self-confident and gregarious around people they know well, or when discussing theories which they fully understand." Again, sounds a lot like her. I see some things that don't quite match her, too, but try finding a description of an INTP that perfectly matches you!
The thing is, she is Introverted, obviously, Intuitive, probably, and Thinking, and either P or J, which actually makes sense. I've met a lot of INTPs who could be either, and/or are not sure which they are, but most turned out to be INTP in the test.
Lot
23rd-July-2012, 04:01 AM
I could see Twilight being an INTJ. I have trouble seeing her as a P type, after she made that giant list and triple checked it. She has too strong a desire to be organized for me to see her being an INTP. All the INTP's I personally know don't have that strong of a drive for order as she does. This list seems to think she's an INTP though. http://cartoonoveranalyzations.com/2011/05/23/the-myers-briggs-type-indicator-for-ponies/
Triginta Septem
23rd-July-2012, 04:06 AM
I could see Twilight being an INTJ. I have trouble seeing her as a P type, after she made that giant list and triple checked it. She has too strong a desire to be organized for me to see her being an INTP. All the INTP's I personally know don't have that strong of a drive for order as she does. This list seems to think she's an INTP though. http://cartoonoveranalyzations.com/2011/05/23/the-myers-briggs-type-indicator-for-ponies/
Huh, that's interesting. I don't thing Pinkie Pie would be an ENFP, though... Anyhoof, I know a few websites that have described us as organised, and I am to some degree... Based of my INTJ friends, I would have to say she's a lot farther from that than INTP.
Lot
23rd-July-2012, 04:10 AM
Huh, that's interesting. I don't thing Pinkie Pie would be an ENFP, though... Anyhoof, I know a few websites that have described us as organised, and I am to some degree... Based of my INTJ friends, I would have to say she's a lot farther from that than INTP.
I guess I just don't relate with her on that deep personal level. Although she is the most relatable character for me. My INTJ friends and brother don't like my less structured approach to life. Maybe I just a too much P-ness.
I always thought of Pinkie as more of an S, but I can see where they are coming from. In all reality these are fictional characters, and can be very difficult to type.
nil
23rd-July-2012, 04:38 AM
Well, first of all, Lesson Zero was out-of-character (and under extreme stress, that is actually expected to happen I believe), but I see your point.
It actually has nothing to do with the stress itself, but the reason why she is stressed. Being late for a deadline that, quite honestly, wasn't even officially set, and didn't really matter? I'm not sure about you, but there is some definite J shit going on there.
Just looking through the episode list, I can see more reasons why she is a J type:
Look Before You Sleep - Tries to hold a slumber party according to the very clearly defined principles of a book.
Winter Wrap Up - Wants to help the way everypony else does, more a strike against INTP than one for INTJ (though honestly may not be at all relevant)
Feeling Pinkie Keen - There's something about this which yells it at me... but nothing I can really pinpoint. Maybe it's her insistence on the "fact" that there is a rational cause (even if that belief is, you know, perfectly rational). There is a big difference between testing to determine whether a hypothesis is true or false and testing to prove you are correct. One thing I have noticed about J's is that they tend to think they know something is absolutely "true" even if they have no reason to believe that is necessarily true.
Hm, perhaps not as comprehensive as I would have liked, but these are just specific examples off the top of my head.
I still believe she is an INTP, however. Look here: "INTPs ... see everything in terms of how it could be improved" Very twilight. She always looks for problems to solve. They "live primarily inside their own minds, having the ability to analyze difficult problems, identify patterns, and come up with logical explanations." Twi try's to find a logical explanation for everything (Pinkie Pie...). "They ... live much of their lives within their own heads, and may not place as much importance or value on the external world." Before meeting the other 5, this would describe her whole existence perfectly... "The INTP is likely to be very shy when it comes to meeting new people. On the other hand, the INTP is very self-confident and gregarious around people they know well, or when discussing theories which they fully understand." Again, sounds a lot like her. I see some things that don't quite match her, too, but try finding a description of an INTP that perfectly matches you!
This is very understandable, and I do have to say that a lot of these things describe her. But here is my question: Even though INTJ and INTP share no functions, they do share three letters which are supposed to represent certain traits. So, how much overlap do you suppose there would be between INTP and INTJ? Judging by the fact that there are frequently people who have no idea whether they are INTJ or INTP and having read many type descriptions of both, I'd say quite a lot. So really, you should read both INTP and INTJ profiles and see which matches more. Most of the things you quoted can be applied to NT's or introverts in general. For me, typing is more a matter of merging type descriptions and traits into a gestalt within my mind and using this to type others. The stereotypes and specific examples really don't matter that much, what matters is the picture as a whole. At least, that's how I see it.
I could see Twilight being an INTJ. I have trouble seeing her as a P type, after she made that giant list and triple checked it. She has too strong a desire to be organized for me to see her being an INTP. All the INTP's I personally know don't have that strong of a drive for order as she does. This list seems to think she's an INTP though. http://cartoonoveranalyzations.com/2011/05/23/the-myers-briggs-type-indicator-for-ponies/
Hm... I'm not sure about this chart at all.
Really, though, my thoughts concerning typology have been irrevocably altered by Socionical and Jungian thought, So I'm not nearly as good at MBTI as I used to be. I can say that Twilight Sparkle is definitely a Socionics LII though (and again, I think INTJ in MBTI as well) and Pinkie Pie is most likely ESE. Not sure about MBTI, though, it screwed up all the definitions and functions and everything so she actually might be an ExFP.
Mello
23rd-July-2012, 05:12 AM
Twilight Sparkle is most certainly not an INTP. After just a few minutes of the first episode I strongly suspected she was an IxTJ (Intuitive most likely given her propensity in magic), and further episodes only served to prove this more and more. How could you ever think she is a perceiving type after Lesson Zero?
:|
Alright then, but it all depends on how you look at it. Really, it seems that I was destined to have a perpetually pessimistic and dark personality, though there still appears to be some light shining through. Good and bad in everything, I suppose.
NJ > SJ, but SJ is also a possibility.
But really, are people still relying on such stereotypes as "duty-minded" and "follows the rules" to indicate an SJ? No wonder why I stopped bothering with MBTI.
I was kidding in my post.
Ponies are okay.
Triginta Septem
23rd-July-2012, 05:32 AM
In all reality these are fictional characters, and can be very difficult to type.
True, but Lauren Faust and the writers have been pretty good at creating these characters, and they are very real personalities. Maybe we could have one of them take the test as Twilight? ^^
nil
23rd-July-2012, 06:14 AM
I recently read a post on another forum by someone claiming to be a professional counsellor, he said he sees a lot of mid to late teenagers, as well as some older people, who are claiming to watch the show and are learning these things from it. He said he believes that it is very good that they are learning about these things, but he also finds it very distressing that they need to learn these things, as they are lessons that should be learnt by everyone -regardless of personality- as children.
Sure, but that make it necessarily bad? I mean, even if they are learning these things through a show designed for small children, at least they are learning it at all, even if it's quite a few late. I think it's more a mark of bad parenting/upbringing than a mark of a defective individual (which is what it seems you are saying, though meaning is so often lost in transit and much more so in interpretation).
As for me... I'll try to be as honest as possible, but the truth is that I'm not really sure why I like the show. The moral lessons are nice, though as Teohrn said, not unique, and certainly I have heard these things for all of my life from many sources, but it's nice to be reminded every now and again.
Sure, I could rattle off my subjective perceptions of the technical aspects: Great music, voice acting, animation, characters that seem real (THEY REALLY DO), etc, and although all these things are true, they don't really get into the heart of it. So here it is:
Really, it seems that I was destined to have a perpetually pessimistic and dark personality
For me, the show is really about translating negative energies into more positive ones. I tend to focus on the negative aspects of what may be considered "reality" but just as I was realizing this and also the fact that a lot of positives exist as well I found this show and it really did help to bring into my life a balance of the positive and negative. That might be considered a form of escape but from my perspective that doesn't really matter. Worldview is really all about what information one pays attention to so for me it's a nice change. I really doubt this will make much sense to those who do not have a similar perspective to mine (within the last year my perspective has become rather... refined) but it is nonetheless my reason. Or, in a more direct, perhaps less INTP fashion that may make most of you cringe (quoted from elsewhere):
"The positive vibes and lack of cynicism bring a little light into a dark world for me, and allow me to keep a part of the innocence of childhood close at heart."
THERE, I'VE DONE IT.
True, but Lauren Faust and the writers have been pretty good at creating these characters, and they are very real personalities. Maybe we could have one of them take the test as Twilight? ^^
Haha, yes. Tara Strong does the voice acting for Twilight Sparkle and she really gets into all her characters, she could probably get an accurate result for sure.
Lot
23rd-July-2012, 06:25 AM
I read through the entire thread on PersonalityCafe about this show. It seems like a pretty big split between INTJ and ISTJ, with a few outliers saying INTP. There was also a lot of debate on Fluttershy being ISFP, ISFJ, INFP. I'm having trouble making a choice, but I'm more leaning between ISFJ and INFP.
Triginta Septem
23rd-July-2012, 06:46 AM
I haven't really read that much about those types, but going just of the letters I would say she's ISFP or ISFJ.
TriflinThomas
28th-July-2012, 12:09 AM
I think Fluttershy is an INFP, Pinkie is and ExFP, Twilight is an INTJ (doesn't see the use in making friends, organized, can be the leader if she has to)
ObliviousGenius
28th-July-2012, 07:18 PM
It's possible I do. However, they share some traits: a sense of belonging with a community and a sense of guidance. The difference is that these traits are much more minuscule on one side.
Anyway, my point was that people that take certain choices and become devout parts of communities are prone to reason that they take those choices because it helps them, etc., f.e. you point out to a "bizarre regression to infancy" among adults, which I agree on. In line with that, people often take weird religious and spiritual choices, like becoming a member of the church of Scientology, and when they are attacked for it they reason that it helps them.
But why does exactly this cartoon help them? Is it unique in its learnings? Does it have powerful insights that only they have? I don't believe so. You can pretty much find those same morals, learnings, whatnot, etc. everywhere, not in cartoons only; everywhere. It is oriented towards children, however. This is also where the "bizarre regression to infancy" comes in. It probably has more to do with just that than that it helps them develop personally. (Actually, the lessons taught seem to be rather shallow, naive and idealistic; if you're above a certain age. I doubt there are lessons to be taught for a grown up mind.) It is the defense itself, not wanting to admit the real cause behind it, that it's flawed, therefore reasoning that it helps. That is what I want to get to.
It's not the same, but it's similar. I only think that when groupings are criticized, they often come with very similar arguments, that it helps them, that "you" can't understand, rather than admitting that it's flawed and that the lack of an understanding of "why?" from the outsiders is sensible.
I don't think they want to admit that they just like the show. They want to defend that fact by giving objective reasons for watching it. In this case with the OP (before being merged) he just wants to obsess over MLP with other people who like the show. I do it all the time with sports (although not to this extent) and some other things I have a big interest in. The difference in our interests is that mine does not stagnate my development as a human being, which is the biggest "flaw" when it comes to this show.
I don't think being a "Brony" is worth gaining the imaginary Fe development. There are better natural alternatives that don't come with such negativity from the public.
Puffy
30th-July-2012, 03:35 AM
I don't really understand why you have to be a part of the subculture (brony) to like the show, or why you have to be associated with it if you do (can't you just like it?).
I watched the first episode. It's strange, I was expecting the 'Spongebob' / 'Ren & Stimpy' kind of writing, where it's obviously for younger audiences but also contains lots of jokes aimed at adults. It definitely felt like a kid's show, I guess I also understand where people are coming from saying they learn from its moral lessons, but personally they felt a little cliche'd; and a little like what Nil was saying it's a very positive, cute world - I'm not sure how transferable any lessons from it really are, it seems more like an escape. Which is fine.
I remember watching My Little Pony when I was a kid and this was a definite improvement though, so it gets a thumbs up from me, either way. :p
Lot
10th-September-2012, 08:52 PM
I was wondering if anyone on here know of any good MLP forums. I'm interested in learning more about the community from the community.
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